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Postby capt_weasle » 2009.02.22 (23:08)

boonie92 wrote:i think its the homophobes who usually end up being the gays. ... and dont hit on me either.


flagmyidol, I think you just got your man. Although there are easier ways of coming out boonie92, ones that don't involve completely slapping yourself in the face with your odd sense of logic.
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Postby Tunco » 2009.03.19 (19:53)

aapse wrote:gays?

nothing wrong with gays.
except for when normal people pretend they're gay (or bi) so they can look cool, which is the case of a few people in my school, and surrounding neighbourhood. they strut around, talking about how they kissed some guy the other night at a party, then everyone else just throws abuse at them and they go off to sulk or clean up their fringe. and yet they still keep on doing it, hoping that someone will take pity on them or something. i reckon its insulting.


it doesn't help that half of them are emos as well.


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Postby otters~1 » 2009.03.19 (20:04)

capt_weasle wrote:
boonie92 wrote:i think its the homophobes who usually end up being the gays. ... and dont hit on me either.


flagmyidol, I think you just got your man. Although there are easier ways of coming out boonie92, ones that don't involve completely slapping yourself in the face with your odd sense of logic.

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Postby jean-luc » 2009.03.22 (01:30)

Geti wrote:also flag, i dont think anyone has come out yet, no, but a few people have admitted to liking boys and/or girls. and dave has admitted to being a dude-kisser.


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Postby Tanner » 2009.03.22 (03:05)

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Geti wrote:also flag, i dont think anyone has come out yet, no, but a few people have admitted to liking boys and/or girls. and dave has admitted to being a dude-kisser.


Don't forget me. I'm out, as they say.

Not me. I'm so far in the closet, I'm in fucking Narnia.
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Postby Radium » 2009.03.22 (03:33)

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jean-luc wrote:
Geti wrote:also flag, i dont think anyone has come out yet, no, but a few people have admitted to liking boys and/or girls. and dave has admitted to being a dude-kisser.


Don't forget me. I'm out, as they say.

Not me. I'm so far in the closet, I'm in fucking Narnia.


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Postby Seneschal » 2009.04.01 (09:59)

aapse wrote:gays?

nothing wrong with gays.
except for when normal people pretend they're gay (or bi) so they can look cool


What? If anyone did that in my neighbourhood they'd most likely lose their coolness.
I have no problem with gays.
I don't understand the "it's not natural" argument, either. Surely these people have been on planes? Used a computer? Watched television? These things aren't natural either. But these are an accepted part of human culture and society. Saying gays aren't natural is equivalent to saying women having rights isn't natural either.

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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2009.04.01 (16:25)

cheesemonger wrote: women having rights isn't natural



I agree with this man wholeheartedly!
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Postby Seneschal » 2009.04.01 (18:07)

Damn.
I allowed myself to be quoted out of context in an embarrassing way...I'll never live this down.

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Postby Tanner » 2009.04.01 (18:40)

cheesemonger wrote:Damn.
I allowed myself to be quoted out of context in an embarrassing way...I'll never live this down.

I thought you were pretentious and annoying before this post and I was starting to dislike you. Now I know you're pretentious and annoying and I love you.
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Postby Seneschal » 2009.04.01 (21:19)

rennaT wrote:
jean-luc wrote:
Geti wrote:also flag, i dont think anyone has come out yet, no, but a few people have admitted to liking boys and/or girls. and dave has admitted to being a dude-kisser.


Don't forget me. I'm out, as they say.

Not me. I'm so far in the closet, I'm in fucking Narnia.


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cheesemonger wrote:Damn.
I allowed myself to be quoted out of context in an embarrassing way...I'll never live this down.

I thought you were pretentious and annoying before this post and I was starting to dislike you. Now I know you're pretentious and annoying and I love you.


I sense a contradiction...

And don't worry, I like fawns and talking lions as much as the next guy.

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Postby Universezero » 2009.04.02 (02:27)

SlappyMcGee wrote:
cheesemonger wrote: women having rights isn't natural

I agree with this man wholeheartedly!

Damn.

Anyway, I guess I'm okay with gays. I believe that people should do what they want as long as it's not against the law. Music, damn it.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2009.04.02 (02:55)

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I don't see how legality has anything to do with morality.



They are both things from which we base decisions on. But one of them has a definitive book.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2009.04.02 (15:36)

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:
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DemonzLunchBreak wrote:I don't see how legality has anything to do with morality.



They are both things from which we base decisions on. But one of them has a definitive book.

Okay... That doesn't exactly correspond to my statement.

Universezero said that people should do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal, implying that if something is legal, it must be immoral. I wasn't saying that there is no abstract relationship between legality and morality. They are obviously both "things from which we base decisions on." The fact that one is objective while the other is based largely on personal bias is irrelevant.

To phrase my problem with universezero's statement as a question...
Why is something never alright to do if the government says you shouldn't do it?


Oh, I was being catty. I'm onboard with you wholeheartedly.
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Postby Amadeus » 2009.04.08 (03:43)

yungerkid wrote:well, if you had posted all of those things one at a time, i would have refuted them all individually. but i'm just too lazy to go through them all. :/

God is supposed to love us all equally, right? Then why does he hate gays?


ever heard of the concept "love the sinner, hate the sin"? God hates homosexuality; it perverts the natural form of sex that God created between a man and woman. however, He still loves every human on the earth; they are His creation. it is natural.


Very true. Although I personally am an atheist, if one believes in God he should at the least follow God's principles.
And if one's argument is that homosexuals are not humans (as this is the only contrary argument I can think of) then that person is sounding quite a bit like slave owners in Southern US, 200 years ago.
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Postby Yoshimo » 2009.08.25 (00:18)

Skyling wrote:
Evil_Sire wrote:Well a man being attached to a woman is natural.

What exactly is unnatural about being gay?


Looking back upon this near dead topic, I saw this little argument brewing.

I'd like to ask you, do you think dolphins and bonobos are natural creatures?

Dolphins engage in homosexual sex, yet have little sentience. They do it for pleasure, yet the act gives the group/school/colony/whatever of dolphins more social bondedness.

A bonobo male can actual turn it's penis inside-out to make a fake vagina to have homosexual sex with another male.

Fact is, these animals don't have these crazy social rules and standards to uphold. They are as natural as us, and they engage in homosexual acts as natural as heterosexual acts. Hell, bonobos are actually adapted to have gay sex.


Of course, this issue was probably sorted out long ago. But that's just my two cents.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2009.08.25 (00:49)

BionicCryonic wrote:
Skyling wrote:
Evil_Sire wrote:Well a man being attached to a woman is natural.

What exactly is unnatural about being gay?


Looking back upon this near dead topic, I saw this little argument brewing.

I'd like to ask you, do you think dolphins and bonobos are natural creatures?

Dolphins engage in homosexual sex, yet have little sentience. They do it for pleasure, yet the act gives the group/school/colony/whatever of dolphins more social bondedness.

A bonobo male can actual turn it's penis inside-out to make a fake vagina to have homosexual sex with another male.

Fact is, these animals don't have these crazy social rules and standards to uphold. They are as natural as us, and they engage in homosexual acts as natural as heterosexual acts. Hell, bonobos are actually adapted to have gay sex.


Of course, this issue was probably sorted out long ago. But that's just my two cents.


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Postby otters » 2009.08.25 (02:36)

Being a dolphin keeps sounding like more fun the more I hear about them.
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Postby scythe » 2009.08.25 (03:29)

BionicCryonic wrote:
Skyling wrote:
Evil_Sire wrote:Well a man being attached to a woman is natural.

What exactly is unnatural about being gay?


Looking back upon this near dead topic, I saw this little argument brewing.

I'd like to ask you, do you think dolphins and bonobos are natural creatures?

Dolphins engage in homosexual sex, yet have little sentience. They do it for pleasure, yet the act gives the group/school/colony/whatever of dolphins more social bondedness.

A bonobo male can actual turn it's penis inside-out to make a fake vagina to have homosexual sex with another male.

Fact is, these animals don't have these crazy social rules and standards to uphold. They are as natural as us, and they engage in homosexual acts as natural as heterosexual acts. Hell, bonobos are actually adapted to have gay sex.


Of course, this issue was probably sorted out long ago. But that's just my two cents.

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Postby sawyerscott52 » 2009.09.01 (12:56)

ugh, all this "gay" crap is getting out of hand.

look, if they want to get married, adopt kids, and bump uglies i'm fine.

i don't see how it affects us in any way.

and the only reason why the "Holy" Bible (great work of fiction, i must say) says gay love is wrong is because GOD IS A HOMOPHOBE!!!!!

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Postby SkyPanda » 2009.09.01 (15:46)

Apathy, disinterest and a fear of offense can be just as bad as prejudice and hatred when it comes to complicated social issues.
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Postby The_Juggler » 2009.09.01 (18:02)

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:You do realize that's almost pure tautology, right? I mean, I agree with you - God was homophobic to an incredible degree (in both the OT *and* NT, incluye), but you have to make an attempt at a more interesting sentence than that.
I suppose you are being ironic and such - and I do sincerely admire that.


I'm sort of a religious guy, and I'm pretty sure it says right in the book that God doesn't hate anybody for any reason.
Not only that, Jesus told us to do the very same.

I can't speak for other religions, but I seriously doubt any religious diety of any kind encourages hate - and no I don't want to hear about Islam, Islam is a very peaceful faith.

Hating any person for any reason is not a very religious thing to do - it says right in the book that you shouldn't.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.09.01 (20:59)

The_Juggler wrote:Hating any person for any reason is not a very religious thing to do

I laughed for, like, 10 to 15 minutes. Utterly brilliant.
It's funny that people actually believe that though, y'know? So while you clearly must have been joking, it still is more than a little depressing that most people have such a complete lack of context from, y'know, most of history or any readings whatsoever from their own scriptures.
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