Are you okay with gays?

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Postby Radium » 2008.10.19 (01:50)

My answer is yes. Why do people get all worked up over other's orientation? In my opinion, you have no right to tell someone that they can't be attracted to someone of the same sex. I mean, is it really your business?

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Postby Vyacheslav » 2008.10.19 (02:02)

Yeah, they're fine. They're people too and deserved to be treated just as equally as anyone else. Although I would be a little freaked out if one tried to seduce me...
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Postby notsteve » 2008.10.19 (02:10)

i agree with 7
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Postby Tanner » 2008.10.19 (02:11)

I wouldn't say that I'm okay with gays.
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Postby Skyling » 2008.10.19 (02:15)

Oh, I'm perfectly fine with them. In fact, more than perfectly fine with them.
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Postby sept » 2008.10.19 (02:17)

Yes.
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Postby Kablizzy » 2008.10.19 (02:23)

If you don't know how I am with the gays and the AIDS by now, you will never, ever, ever know me... Ooooohhhhh...
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Postby Zora_S_Kenneth » 2008.10.19 (02:41)

Most gays leave you alone once you say that you aren't interested. That said, just don't try to drag me down like most don't, and I'll be fine.
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Postby 乳头的早餐谷物 » 2008.10.19 (03:02)

I'm okay with gays. I'm not okay with the fact they've never hit on me. :(
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Postby yungerkid » 2008.10.19 (03:11)

i'm fine with gays. logically, there is no reason to have anger, let alone have anger at people for physical reasons. they can mess up their lives all they want, i don't care. just as long as it doesn't affect me, i'm fine with it.

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Postby rambo5252 » 2008.10.19 (03:15)

Not really, ive had gays hit on me while im talking to chicks it makes me so mad
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Postby Tanner » 2008.10.19 (03:25)

rambo5252 wrote:Not really, ive had gays hit on me while im talking to chicks it makes me so mad
Amen, brother. That's my problem too. I'm so massively handsome that dudes can't control themselves despite the fact that I'm so obviously hetero-leaning.
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Postby Geti » 2008.10.19 (03:31)

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Postby jean-luc » 2008.10.19 (03:31)

I'm kind of stuck with being okay with gays, generally being at odds with oneself isn't any good. Okay, that sentence was crap.

I'm gay, so I must be okay with it.

I certainly avoid 'hitting on' people that are apparently heterosexual. Of course, I really don't 'hit on' anyone.
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Postby Tanner » 2008.10.19 (03:36)

Admittedly, it isn't the fault of the gay community that I'm an Adonis.
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Postby rambo5252 » 2008.10.19 (04:04)

lol and one time my girlfriend was right next to me and the dude literly ok are u ready he tickled me and i slapped him so hard, then she broke up with me for slapping him lol w/e
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Postby Tanner » 2008.10.19 (04:05)

rambo5252 wrote:lol and one time my girlfriend was right next to me and the dude literly ok are u ready he tickled me and i slapped him so hard, then she broke up with me for slapping him lol w/e
You slapped another man? That's sort of... gay.
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Postby rambo5252 » 2008.10.19 (04:11)

no...i slapped him across the face
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Postby George » 2008.10.19 (04:28)

rambo5252 wrote:no...i turkey slapped him across the face
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Postby Fraxtil » 2008.10.19 (04:45)

Honestly, I'm not sure what to believe about gays. Being a Christian, I certainly believe that God is against gays... what I don't understand is why. Most rules given in the Bible can be reasonable from even an atheist's view (most rules are there because doing something would hurt someone else). However, homosexuality is not one of those rules. The only reason I could see for God saying no to being gay is because it focuses sexuality on pleasure, rather than procreation. Conversely, I don't believe that God wants us to be restricted of all sexual pleasure, namely in married couples. Therefore gays should be able to marry and enjoy each other, right? But no... the verses conflict. It's a topic which I'm very unsure about.

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Postby Manifest » 2008.10.19 (04:57)

Gforce wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure what to believe about gays. Being a Christian, I certainly believe that God is against gays... what I don't understand is why. Most rules given in the Bible can be reasonable from even an atheist's view (most rules are there because doing something would hurt someone else). However, homosexuality is not one of those rules. The only reason I could see for God saying no to being gay is because it focuses sexuality on pleasure, rather than procreation. Conversely, I don't believe that God wants us to be restricted of all sexual pleasure, namely in married couples. Therefore gays should be able to marry and enjoy each other, right? But no... the verses conflict. It's a topic which I'm very unsure about.
I thought about this too, back when I was a Christian, until I found out that the only thing against gays in the Bible is in the chapter Leviticus. The same chapter that says if we wear two different cloths, we are spiritually unclean, and are required to take a ritual bath, with holy candles. Cumulatively, it also states that we should stone pretty much the entire population of New York CIty to death.

Essentially, Leviticus isn't taken at all seriously by even the most devout of fundies, and that passage is taken out of its ridiculous context only to justify their homophobia.

The Bible is gonna conflict on hundreds of things; you can use it for guidance, but most of the time you're gonna have to make your own judgement call.
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Postby Fraxtil » 2008.10.19 (05:48)

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Gforce wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure what to believe about gays. Being a Christian, I certainly believe that God is against gays... what I don't understand is why. Most rules given in the Bible can be reasonable from even an atheist's view (most rules are there because doing something would hurt someone else). However, homosexuality is not one of those rules. The only reason I could see for God saying no to being gay is because it focuses sexuality on pleasure, rather than procreation. Conversely, I don't believe that God wants us to be restricted of all sexual pleasure, namely in married couples. Therefore gays should be able to marry and enjoy each other, right? But no... the verses conflict. It's a topic which I'm very unsure about.
I thought about this too, back when I was a Christian, until I found out that the only thing against gays in the Bible is in the chapter Leviticus. The same chapter that says if we wear two different cloths, we are spiritually unclean, and are required to take a ritual bath, with holy candles. Cumulatively, it also states that we should stone pretty much the entire population of New York CIty to death.

Essentially, Leviticus isn't taken at all seriously by even the most devout of fundies, and that passage is taken out of its ridiculous context only to justify their homophobia.

The Bible is gonna conflict on hundreds of things; you can use it for guidance, but most of the time you're gonna have to make your own judgement call.
The reason Christians don't believe in the random Jewish rules about cloths and baths and whatnot is because Jesus told us that the "ritualistic" or "religious" activities aren't necessary. Sexuality, on the other hand, is certainly not ritualistic. I'll need to run through the Gospels to confirm exactly what Jesus said, though.

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Postby Tanner » 2008.10.19 (05:49)

Manifest wrote:I thought about this too, back when I was a Christian, until I found out that the only thing against gays in the Bible is in the chapter Leviticus.
That's not true. There's a verse or two in Romans, as well. Paul was always sort of a crackpot, though.
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Postby scythe » 2008.10.19 (05:55)

I'm fine with homosexuals, as well as most other -sexuals and -philes.
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Postby Manifest » 2008.10.19 (06:04)

rennaT wrote:
Manifest wrote:I thought about this too, back when I was a Christian, until I found out that the only thing against gays in the Bible is in the chapter Leviticus.
That's not true. There's a verse or two in Romans, as well. Paul was always sort of a crackpot, though.
Mind citing them? I'd be glad to know if I missed them.
Gforce wrote:Sexuality, on the other hand, is certainly not ritualistic.
Maybe not now, but back then it was, beyond a shadow of a doubt. It was one of the most ritualized things around until about 200 years ago (or 50 years ago, depending on who you ask :P ).
My main point being, there are tons of things the Bible says we should stone people about. "Lying with another man as with a woman" is just one of those. If you go condemning them, you better also put on your witch hunting hat, as well as sentencing folks to death for saying "This soup is good enough for Jehovah."
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