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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.07.16 (04:08)

Last week, I went to In N Out, a fast food chain in the Western US. The employees were handling the food without gloves. Almost all of them. A few days later, I went to another In N Out, (both are in/around the San Francisco Bay Area), and once again, the employers had no gloves. I asked if they used them and they claimed to "wash their hands frequently." I'm sure all of you have heard fast food sanitation horror stories, (heard the one about the Taco Bell employee defecating on a customer's taco?), like how fast food workers may spit in your food, etc. Just wanted to see what your thoughts on fast food sanitation are. Could these restaurants be cleaner? Some are certainly making efforts by installing Purell dispensers and cleaning tables after they have been dined on. However, other eateries make you wonder whether or not they haven't been cleaned in years.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.16 (04:34)

987654321 wrote:Last week, I went to In N Out, a fast food chain in the Western US. The employees were handling the food without gloves. Almost all of them. A few days later, I went to another In N Out, (both are in/around the San Francisco Bay Area), and once again, the employers had no gloves. I asked if they used them and they claimed to "wash their hands frequently." I'm sure all of you have heard fast food sanitation horror stories, (heard the one about the Taco Bell employee defecating on a customer's taco?), like how fast food workers may spit in your food, etc. Just wanted to see what your thoughts on fast food sanitation are. Could these restaurants be cleaner? Some are certainly making efforts by installing Purell dispensers and cleaning tables after they have been dined on. However, other eateries make you wonder whether or not they haven't been cleaned in years.
I worked at a McDonalds for a few months. We did generally wash our hands quite frequently. Maybe once an hour? Always immediately after touching something dirty, doing the dishes, or doing anything that wasn't handling food. Gloves are necessary if the person has cuts or sores on their hands, however, I believe for the most part not wearing gloves under regular circumstances because it's not like you aren't going to have any bacteria on your food, no matter what.

Although I hear In'n'outs are notoriously bad.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.16 (12:06)

It's McDonald's policy to do handwashings once an hour. Also, gloves are worn when preparing pre-made foods like the breakfast burritos and salads.
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Postby NachoCheese » 2010.07.17 (02:44)

What are you more scared of though, the person who's handling your food making you sick, or what's inside it? Uncooked chicken, an obvious example :O
My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.

Get the idea? :(

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Postby T3chno » 2010.07.17 (02:45)

NachoCheese wrote:My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.
Wait, what?
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Postby blackson » 2010.07.17 (05:10)

I work at a Subway and I can tell you they're pretty strict about sanitation. Every time you make something you have to wash your hands and put on gloves (unless you have a chain of subs in a row).

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Postby noops » 2010.07.17 (14:37)

Blackson wrote:I work at a Subway and I can tell you they're pretty strict about sanitation. Every time you make something you have to wash your hands and put on gloves (unless you have a chain of subs in a row).
I've noticed that Subway is very... Clean. Every time I go there, the tables are always shiny, the people were (seemingly) fresh gloves, and hairnets are usually worn. It's one of the reasons why I love it so much.

I remember one time, I went to a sort of "real" restaurant; it wasn't exactly high class, but they had decent waiters, there was some soft Muzak coming from somewhere, etc. etc. When I walked out I happened to notice that their sanitation score was something like 89.4. For comparison, the Taco Bell next to my house has a perfect 100.0.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.17 (15:18)

NachoCheese wrote:My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.
So, if I understand you correctly, I will only be served fully cooked chicken at KFC if I go there with a pregnant woman? Is that what everyone else got from this?
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Postby bobaganuesh_2 » 2010.07.17 (22:16)

I worked with a guy last summer who used to be the vice-manager at a Domino's Pizza. He told me a story of why you should NEVER piss off someone who's making your food.

One night around 10:30 he and the only other employee still at the pizzeria are closing up the place and shutting everything down and cleaning stuff up. A woman walks in and wants to order a pizza. The guy, Rob, says "look lady we close in 2 minutes, we can't make you any pizza, sorry. Come back tomorrow." But the woman insists on ordering a pizza, and even threatens him that she'll call the manager and fuck shit up. Rob and the other employee are forced to turn everything back on, reheat the pizza ovens (which takes about 30 minutes), and prepare the ingredients, and all that other stuff. He tells the woman "it's going to take about 30-45 minutes to make your pizza", and she says she is perfectly content waiting such a time for her food. Rob goes up to his fellow employee and starts talking to him about how dumb a bitch this woman is. Rob tells him "I'm going to jack off in the pizza dough", buts in the end decides not to because he'd feel guilty about it. So the other guy decides to do it insteaad and takes the dough into the bathroom to jack off into it. When he's done he comes out of the bathroom with the dough and they start making the rest of the pizza, with the tomato sauce and cheese and all the toppings that the lady ordered. They place it into the oven and cook it just like any other pizza; when it was done Rob took it out of the oven, packaged it, and handed it to the woman. She paid him the money she owed, and as she walked out the door, he said "enjoy your pizza, miss".

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Postby Rose » 2010.07.18 (00:26)

I always take care not to piss off any workers because they're the ones doing me a service, and ffs it's just smart to try not to piss off people you meet. The horror stories about what they might do to your food is just as good of a reason. But if you're not a jackass, I doubt you have a lot to worry about.
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Postby NachoCheese » 2010.07.18 (01:43)

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NachoCheese wrote:My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.
So, if I understand you correctly, I will only be served fully cooked chicken at KFC if I go there with a pregnant woman? Is that what everyone else got from this?

Sad truth. :( This may be different in the states and other areas, but here in New Zealand, chicken sits there for hours. Hours. Tell them there is a pregnant woman and they get it out of the oven. Otherwise, they don't frankly care.

With the not pissing people off, I've heard the exact same pizza horror stories. Prechewed toppings. Saying no more.

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Postby 乳头的早餐谷物 » 2010.07.18 (04:12)

NachoCheese wrote:
hairscapades wrote:
NachoCheese wrote:My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.
So, if I understand you correctly, I will only be served fully cooked chicken at KFC if I go there with a pregnant woman? Is that what everyone else got from this?

Sad truth. :( This may be different in the states and other areas, but here in New Zealand, chicken sits there for hours. Hours. Tell them there is a pregnant woman and they get it out of the oven. Otherwise, they don't frankly care.
If you're consistently getting served cold chicken, you're probably going to the wrong KFC and should frickin' stop.
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Postby capt_weasle » 2010.07.18 (05:43)

Handling food without gloves is fine as long as you wash your hands regularly. Touching the faucet handle in the bathroom is worse for you than someone handling your food (assuming they wash up, of course). At my work we handle all the food with gloves anyway; however, my new manager is a fucking retard and thinks I need to wear gloves when I'm at the grill (we use a wood-fired grill to cook all of our food), despite that my hands are making absolute zero contact with food. I have a habit of readjusting my hat quite a bit, or pushing hair out of my eyes, and I wash my hands after doing either of those things, mostly because I'm in plain view of customers and they tend to get bitchy about those sort of things (I actually had a lady yell at me because I touched food *with* gloves on - she wanted me to use tongs, which in all honesty were probably dirtier than the gloves).
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.07.18 (23:40)

bobaga_fett wrote:I worked with a guy last summer who used to be the vice-manager at a Domino's Pizza. He told me a story of why you should NEVER piss off someone who's making your food.

One night around 10:30 he and the only other employee still at the pizzeria are closing up the place and shutting everything down and cleaning stuff up. A woman walks in and wants to order a pizza. The guy, Rob, says "look lady we close in 2 minutes, we can't make you any pizza, sorry. Come back tomorrow." But the woman insists on ordering a pizza, and even threatens him that she'll call the manager and fuck shit up. Rob and the other employee are forced to turn everything back on, reheat the pizza ovens (which takes about 30 minutes), and prepare the ingredients, and all that other stuff. He tells the woman "it's going to take about 30-45 minutes to make your pizza", and she says she is perfectly content waiting such a time for her food. Rob goes up to his fellow employee and starts talking to him about how dumb a bitch this woman is. Rob tells him "I'm going to jack off in the pizza dough", buts in the end decides not to because he'd feel guilty about it. So the other guy decides to do it insteaad and takes the dough into the bathroom to jack off into it. When he's done he comes out of the bathroom with the dough and they start making the rest of the pizza, with the tomato sauce and cheese and all the toppings that the lady ordered. They place it into the oven and cook it just like any other pizza; when it was done Rob took it out of the oven, packaged it, and handed it to the woman. She paid him the money she owed, and as she walked out the door, he said "enjoy your pizza, miss".
I've worked at a pizza place and believe me, we did *not* like it when some stupid fucker made us turn the ovens back on at 10:58 or take a goddamn run to six miles away.

To address the topic, we didn't wear gloves but we washed our hands after every single string of pizzas, or after going to the back of the store (where the sanitizers and trash cans were).
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Postby smartalco » 2010.07.19 (05:34)

An old friend of mine who I've stopped hanging out with because he went all 'down with the man!' used to work at Sonic, and once jizzed on a dudes burger.

My dad does security system installs and once saw the manager of a Mongolian Buffet (I'm not sure if this is a chain, or just something someone local opened) walk on top of raw chicken on the counter with shoes on, he was looking for something on the top shelf in the kitchen, and apparently didn't really care where he was walking. Yes, they also served this chicken.
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Postby otters » 2010.07.19 (17:07)

hairscapades wrote:
NachoCheese wrote:My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.
So, if I understand you correctly, I will only be served fully cooked chicken at KFC if I go there with a pregnant woman? Is that what everyone else got from this?
You'd think it wouldn't be healthy for a pregnant woman to be eating fried chicken.
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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.07.19 (17:30)

smartalco wrote:An old friend of mine who I've stopped hanging out with because he went all 'down with the man!' used to work at Sonic, and once jizzed on a dudes burger.
No wonder their food is so salty. But seriously, why would he do this? O_O
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Postby smartalco » 2010.07.19 (19:41)

987654321 wrote:No wonder their food is so salty. But seriously, why would he do this? O_O
Ahahaslekfhad. That's horrible. And he did it because he was turning in to a douche with a sick sense of humor. Part of the reason I don't hang out with him anymore.
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Postby noops » 2010.07.20 (21:57)

smartalco wrote:My dad does security system installs and once saw the manager of a Mongolian Buffet (I'm not sure if this is a chain, or just something someone local opened) walk on top of raw chicken on the counter with shoes on, he was looking for something on the top shelf in the kitchen, and apparently didn't really care where he was walking. Yes, they also served this chicken.
That, somehow, reminds me of this other local place, going by the charming name of "No. 1 Buffet". It serves Chinese and is, surprise!, a buffet. I've heard stories about them actually taking the breading off of fried chicken and whatnot, then re-frying them. Also, they've taken, supposedly, "fresh" shrimp that no one had eaten out of the trash can and served it to the customers. I think that they justified it by saying something like "Oh, it was sitting on top of some styrofoam so it's alright," or something to that effect.

Also you have ruined Sonic and Dominoes for me. ;-;-;-;-;
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Postby remm » 2010.07.21 (01:11)

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NachoCheese wrote:My mums pregnant, and we get hot chicken at KFC when she's with us, but when she is not, it tastes terrible, cold and hard.
So, if I understand you correctly, I will only be served fully cooked chicken at KFC if I go there with a pregnant woman? Is that what everyone else got from this?
You'd think it wouldn't be healthy for a pregnant woman to be eating fried chicken.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a pregnant woman to be eating fried chicken, unless the food is infected with salmonella or the likes.

I've never had a problem with cleanliness at fried food places, though I am aware about going back and complaining that they forgot to hold the cheese.
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.07.21 (04:31)

Never, never eat at any Dominoes in the Austin area.
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Postby Rose » 2010.07.22 (08:33)

SBD wrote:Never, never eat at any Dominoes in the Austin area.
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Postby Rose » 2010.07.22 (17:59)

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:
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SBD wrote:Never, never eat at any Dominoes in the Austin area.
Fixed.
But they were so sorry about their pizza! :(
I'll admit that their new pizza is better than their old one, but that at best puts them on par with Pizza Hut, which imho is not saying much (no trolling intended).
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.22 (18:59)

Local pizza is better than chain pizza, but Dominoes is, in my experience, just short of Mike's for good chain pizza.
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.07.22 (20:19)

DemonzLunchBreak wrote:But they were so sorry about their pizza! :(
SlappyMcGee wrote:Local pizza is better than chain pizza, but Dominoes is, in my experience, just short of Mike's for good chain pizza.
I wasn't talking about the quality of their pizza, which is why I affixed the "in Austin" bit. I've heard stories and seen terrible things.
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