Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, LSD, Zen, & I can't do this anymore.

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Postby scythe » 2011.10.24 (23:12)

Steve Jobs died, have you heard?

Jobs was a Zen Buddhist. He took acid at least once.

I've taken acid and studied zen, too. See how similar we are? God, I'm like, the fucking same exact person as Steve Jobs. That gives me clout to hold forth on how exactly acid and zen affect the life of any person who encounters them.

I read reddit, too. It's like the worst decision I've ever made. They have discussions like this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/ ... e_dropped/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/commen ... _the_most/

And they have all these wonderful comments which take a comment out of context, two particulars of someone's life and a few factoids taken from a Wikipedia article...

If someone asked me who had probably dropped acid out of Gates and Jobs and I had no prior info I would say Gates did. He is an altruist and actually seems to see the big picture. Jobs was a shark, and spent his life exploiting people. That said, I can understand how LSD could help enable both types of action.

...and end up with some totally ridiculous and warped view of reality. These people are supposed to be fucking clever! They've taken acid, shouldn't they know how to think?

Steve Jobs was a person. Bill Gates was a person. They've both had 50+ years of life experience that made them who they are and they have both been human beings for 50+ years and it's totally absurd to try to judge all of this on your warped pop-culture perception of their lives. There were people who knew Steve Jobs, talked with him, worked with him, et cetera, people who are actually reasonably qualified to understand the character of this guy. Same goes for Bill Gates.

There are some underlying personality characteristics that affected the way these guys ran their companies. I could throw out some theories, but they'd take hours to expound upon. In fact, it's that that's got me posting this: it is way harder to correct morons and their sweeping generalizations than it is to be a moron and make a sweeping generalization. It's fucking hopeless. These people don't think. It drives me insane.

I love selection bias. Totally off topic here. I love it because it has a name and when I see it I can just call it selection bias. This bullshit I'm complaining about doesn't have a name. It's kind of like selection bias because people are not looking for information in order to make a judgment about a situation: they're making a judgment based on whatever information is spoon-fed to them, which means that they will make whatever judgment the person giving them information wants them to make.

And then their fucking vote counts. It's ridiculous.

By the way, have you seen all the goddamn saints and apostles on reddit lately? These people are so fucking pious it'll make your head spin.

http://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments ... ?context=3

I'm ataraxia obviously, and this guy is fucking Gandhi or something, because if he had a hundred million dollars the first thing he'd do would be to instantly donate it all to charity. Which is clearly a better use than blowing that shit on buying the Mona Lisa.

The depressing thing is people actually think like this, actually believe they are like this, that they would do nothing with a hundred million beyond donating it to charity or something, that all these other people believe they would do that too and are upvoting him, believe me, they don't believe in his sainthood -- they think they are saints. You see this logic all the time. That discussion is actually not a great example of what I'm talking about, but hey -- life, it's hard and shit.

If I had a hundred million dollars, I'd spend it on enough alcohol that I could forget these people even exist.
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Postby otters~1 » 2011.10.25 (00:46)

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Postby Kablizzy » 2011.10.25 (05:51)

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Postby aids » 2011.10.25 (05:54)

I'm totally giving you your own subforum.
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Postby Vyacheslav » 2011.10.25 (12:19)

It's the internet, dude. There are lots of people who are always right and no matter what, you can't prove them wrong.
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Postby smartalco » 2011.10.25 (22:17)

scythe wrote:If I had a hundred million dollars, I'd spend it on enough alcohol that I could forget these people even exist.
After the first couple million or so satisfies your alcohol requirement, can I have the rest?

I 'd totally donate it all to charity.
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