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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.04.09 (12:12)

Pokemon Red

Level 100 Dragonite
Level 100 Haunter
Level 100 Articuno
Level 100 Charizard
Level 100 Mew
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Postby noops » 2010.04.09 (12:34)

I dunno, Chase, i think that they're right, they're gonna introduce a Light type. Logic would assume that White would be based off of said Light type, so, you know, I actually think that White'll be better than Black.




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Postby Pheidippides » 2010.04.09 (13:07)

Ooh, Chase, one of my hallmates showed me that last night. I'll be buying it, of course, but until we start seeing more of it, I'm a bit apprehensive. Some of the Gen IV 'mons have me a bit concerned... Zoroark looks alright though, so I'm hoping that's a good sign.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.04.09 (14:45)

Pheidippides wrote:Ooh, Chase, one of my hallmates showed me that last night. I'll be buying it, of course, but until we start seeing more of it, I'm a bit apprehensive. Some of the Gen IV 'mons have me a bit concerned...
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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.04.09 (15:21)

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Postby Pheidippides » 2010.04.09 (17:38)

hairscapades wrote:
Pheidippides wrote:Ooh, Chase, one of my hallmates showed me that last night. I'll be buying it, of course, but until we start seeing more of it, I'm a bit apprehensive. Some of the Gen IV 'mons have me a bit concerned...
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What are you talking about?
Bahahahaha. Read my mind. Lickilicky's even worse because Lickitung, unlike Nosepass, was actually really cool to begin with. I mean, a good deal of the fourth generation came out pretty well (I happen to really like Mismagius, among others), but some... I direct you to the above image and rest my case.
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Postby T3chno » 2010.04.09 (17:57)

Chase: ...And I was leaning toward getting White. xD


Also, thanks to Tanner for this ultra kick-ass Kangaskhan, who will be replacing Nidoking on my team.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.04.09 (18:26)

Techno wrote:Also, thanks to Tanner for this ultra kick-ass Kangaskhan, who will be replacing Nidoking on my team.
:D :D :D
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Postby Drathmoore » 2010.04.09 (21:02)

Inspired wrote:
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Wow.
All of them, interestingly enough, are only 1 HP away from Max HP...

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Postby Tanner » 2010.04.09 (21:12)

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I can also cheat on an emulator.
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Postby Chase » 2010.04.10 (14:26)

Screenshots of the new games. http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/
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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.04.10 (14:48)

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The only cheating I used. I copied the save files from my 1999 desktop.
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Postby Drathmoore » 2010.04.10 (15:00)

Chase wrote:Screenshots of the new games. http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/
Those look... Rather interesting, I must admit. Especially the battle screenshot... Are they going the route of Battle Revolution, and actually showing the Pokemon hitting each other?

In fact, the whole game seems to be taking a lower viewing angle. And the city... Actually looks like a city.

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Postby Tanner » 2010.04.10 (16:38)

987654321 wrote:The only cheating I used. I copied the save files from my 1999 desktop.
It's a statistical impossibility that your Pokemon (most of which aren't even breedable) could all have maximum HP IVs. Approximately 2 to the power of 30 against. You cheated your little pants off and now are trying to lie about it.
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Postby Pheidippides » 2010.04.10 (17:22)

Drathmoore wrote:
Chase wrote:Screenshots of the new games. http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/
Those look... Rather interesting, I must admit. Especially the battle screenshot... Are they going the route of Battle Revolution, and actually showing the Pokemon hitting each other?

In fact, the whole game seems to be taking a lower viewing angle. And the city... Actually looks like a city.
Yeah, those look incredible. Although, in HGSS, you can't really walk behind things that you should be able to walk behind. Whitney's Gym is the most obvious example of this, I think. Maybe there will be changes in the camera angle if, say, you're in that city screenshot, walk back down that street, and turn left or right? That'd be sick.

Edit: Just realized that Sprout Tower's pillar isn't an obstacle, and you can walk behind it pretty well. Maybe Whitney's just bad at designing Gyms.

Edit: Also realized that this will be the first time two new generations of Pokemon were introduced on the same system since RBY/GSC hit the GBC just over a decade ago. Although, it's not the first time since then that two completely different regions are available on the same system, as RSE and FRLG paired Hoenn and Kanto on the GBA. Yay, meaningless almost-trivia?
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Postby Drathmoore » 2010.04.10 (18:14)

Pheidippides wrote:Edit: Also realized that this will be the first time two new generations of Pokemon were introduced on the same system since RBY/GSC hit the GBC just over a decade ago. Although, it's not the first time since then that two completely different regions are available on the same system, as RSE and FRLG paired Hoenn and Kanto on the GBA. Yay, meaningless almost-trivia?
If only it was coming out on the 3DS...

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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.04.10 (18:16)

hairscapades wrote:
987654321 wrote:The only cheating I used. I copied the save files from my 1999 desktop.
It's a statistical impossibility that your Pokemon (most of which aren't even breedable) could all have maximum HP IVs. Approximately 2 to the power of 30 against. You cheated your little pants off and now are trying to lie about it.
Ever hear of hp up? Celadon City.
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Postby Drathmoore » 2010.04.10 (18:31)

987654321 wrote:Ever hear of hp up? Celadon City.
HP up doesn't affect IVs.
hairscapades wrote: It's a statistical impossibility that your Pokemon (most of which aren't even breedable) could all have maximum HP IVs. Approximately 2 to the power of 30 against. You cheated your little pants off and now are trying to lie about it.
Actually... No. It's not that unlikely, oddly enough. The HP DV was calculated very differently on Pokemon Red.

Basically, the HP DV was calculated via the other DVs. Starting with a HP DV of 0, if the attack DV is odd, add 8. If the Defense DV is odd, add 4. If the Speed DV is odd, add 2, and if the Special DV is odd, add 1. If all of the DVs of the regular stats are odd, then the HP DV = 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 15.

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Postby Pheidippides » 2010.04.10 (19:23)

HP Up also worked differently on RBY. It literally raised the base HP of your Pokemon, on the spot. Not sure if there was a limit other than the stat's maximum value.
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Postby  yahoozy » 2010.04.11 (09:11)

So, uh, I just wanted to chime in here to say that THIS IS THE MOST DEPRESSING SHIT I HAVE EVER READ:
Bulbapedia wrote:Spoink is a gray-colored, piglike Pokémon with dark, circular eyes, stubby arms, a large gray nose, and small ears. Spoink is most notable in that it leads an unusually fragile existence. It possesses no hind legs and motion is achieved by bouncing on its spring like tail. However, the bouncing serves a far more vital function in that it keeps its heart beating; if it's stopped from bouncing, it'll go into cardiac arrest and die. It also wears a pearl produced by a Clamperl on top of its head to amplify its psychic powers. However, if it loses the pearl, it begins to weaken, so Spoink is in constant danger from either ceasing to bounce or losing its pearl.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, NINTENDO?

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Postby Tanner » 2010.04.11 (14:42)

987654321 wrote:Ever hear of hp up? Celadon City.
HP Up affects Effort values but not Individual values. You can't get max stat without having full in both.
Drathmoore wrote:Actually... No. It's not that unlikely, oddly enough. The HP DV was calculated very differently on Pokemon Red.

Basically, the HP DV was calculated via the other DVs. Starting with a HP DV of 0, if the attack DV is odd, add 8. If the Defense DV is odd, add 4. If the Speed DV is odd, add 2, and if the Special DV is odd, add 1. If all of the DVs of the regular stats are odd, then the HP DV = 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 15.
Yeah, you're right. But the odds against getting full HP IVs in all six Pokemon are still astronomical to the point of the being impossible. The needle's just in a haystack instead of a barn full of haystacks.
Pheidippides wrote:HP Up also worked differently on RBY. It literally raised the base HP of your Pokemon, on the spot. Not sure if there was a limit other than the stat's maximum value.
You're close. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EVs#Generation_I
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Postby noops » 2010.04.11 (19:25)

Unfortunately, my WiFi follows the same schedule as the rest of my internet. So, 7AM - 10PM EST time. I'll post my friend code when I have time, which isn't now.


Just know that I have a completely legit Darkrai I'm willing to trade.

EDIT: 0947-4867-9174 Diamond, name's Alex.
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Postby Seneschal » 2010.04.12 (13:14)

I forgot to say this before, but my Heartgold friend code is 4898 8535 7832.

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Postby Chase » 2010.04.14 (16:29)

Here's what I have for trade on Pearl, only 3 days though so get em while they're hot. And limited supply too.
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Ditto's, 6 of each
Lv.35, 30/31 in Atk and SpAtk, Lonely
Lv.31 30/31 in SpAtk, Timid
Lv.29 30/31 in HP, Atk, SpAtk, Lonely

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Electivire, 3 only
EV'd in Atk and Spd
Earthquake, Cross Chop, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch
All holding Expert Belt

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Darkrai, Pokemon Movie 07, ONLY 2
Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Nightmare, Hypnosis
Holding Enigma Berry
Japanese name.

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Drapion, ONLY 2
EV'd in Def and HP
Impish Nature
Moves don't matter, just teach it good stuff ok?

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Jolteon, 4 of them
EV'd in Spd and SpAtk
Timid Nature
Thunderbolt, Substitute, Hidden Power Ice, Baton Pass

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Yanmega, 6
Modest Nature
Speed Boost ability
EV'd in SpAtk and Spd
Protect, Hidden Power Ice, Bug Buzz and Air Slash

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Eevee, LOTS
Lv.1 Bold Nature
Some have a 5 in SpAtk, some have a 6.
Adaptability

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Postby Chase » 2010.04.16 (21:30)

Just as a note I traded one Darkrai, leaving one.
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