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Postby Raif » 2018.09.09 (21:13)

golf wrote:I'm particularly interested to hear for sure exactly how that input buffer works, makes sense. Would you be willing to look at the buffer in the opposite direction, when you jump after running off a surface? I feel like that works a bit differently, where it will still let you jump even when you're not physically on the surface anymore.
I'm willing to look at that sure, but first I need an idea for a level that can be used to test that. Can't think of anything at the moment.

The other case is easy to work out from a one tile width chimney. I think it's best explained in the form of a table.

The first row is what I believe to be a perfect chimney. The sequence of a perfect chimney in N++ appears to be jhnjhnjhn... and so on.

The second sequence is a test case where I simply jump the first frame it is possible to do so. So to start off a jnjnj sequence gives a output of three jumps. But then you try to do a fourth jump you find that the game won't accept an input for the fourth jump until frame nine. From this you can conclude that the ninja does not always jump on the same frame as the keyboard input. If it did then you should logically be able to do the fourth jump on frame seven.

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I'm not sure about the actual sequence of jumps physically taking place without FBF, but it doesn't seem to match the inputs. The opposing wall can't be magically further away every other jump.

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Postby ska » 2018.09.11 (02:22)

I don't want to tamper with my N++ files; can someone please upload a video of the run for me?

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Postby Raif » 2018.09.12 (15:19)

ska, I assure you it's perfectly safe.

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First half of route by ska.

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2018.09.12 (19:31)

Very clean, I updated the master list to contain all the new MBD's (since 2014): https://pastebin.com/ZWMErCyT

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Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

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• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12

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Postby Raif » 2018.09.13 (12:32)

Thanks, Eddy. I added your updated link to the OP.

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Postby ska » 2018.09.14 (06:57)

Oh, that is really nice...

May I ask how long both demos took to make?

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Postby Raif » 2018.09.21 (10:49)

If I remember correctly the first demo took 4-5 hours and the second 2-3.

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Postby ska » 2018.09.21 (16:23)

Raif wrote:If I remember correctly the first demo took 4-5 hours and the second 2-3.
Geez... I really respect that. We should make a Kickstarter or something for Raif to make more MDBs lol.

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Postby Raif » 2018.10.24 (00:31)

73-3 Highscore (112.950, 2.275 faster than Eddy)

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Postby ska » 2018.10.25 (12:17)

Raif wrote:73-3 Highscore (112.950, 2.275 faster than Eddy)
Savage demo.

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2018.10.26 (00:22)

Great job pulling the innov in this map, blazing demo.
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About me & Stats (Spoiler)

Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12

Deds & Images (Spoiler)

Thanks to ska for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to BluePretzel for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to da_guru for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this full episode to me!: 00-0 00-100-2 00-3 00-4
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Postby ska » 2018.10.28 (08:36)

I have a request for Raif: Do you think you could live stream your next MBD creation? I'm really curious to see your process. We could also offer suggestions in chat.

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Postby euni » 2019.01.28 (01:20)

N++ works without much of an issue in libTAS. Here's a quick demo I made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBE1Oq-WdTM

libTAS can be found here: https://github.com/clementgallet/libTAS, most of the information you would need is on that page or in the TASvideos documentation of libTAS.

Runtime: Virtual Steam client must be checked in libTAS for it to work. There are a couple issues with loading times and save data, but these would only really be a problem when starting from a new profile. Also, highscores done in libTAS will not overwrite legitimate scores.

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Postby ska » 2019.01.31 (10:45)

Wow! This is exciting! I'll be following this with great interest. Hopefully Raif and others will see this and give it a go.

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Postby Raif » 2020.01.14 (08:28)

61-4 Highscore (165.900, 6.475 faster than macrohenry)

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Postby ska » 2020.01.16 (10:26)

Raif wrote:
2020.01.14 (08:28)
61-4 Highscore (165.900, 6.475 faster than macrohenry)
Wow, you straight-up clowned on the real-time route. I had completely forgotten that I had a 0th on this level before Macro sniped me by a frame. Is there a human-feasible route to be conceived out of your run, or...?

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Postby macrohenry » 2020.01.16 (21:26)

Raif wrote:
2020.01.14 (08:28)
61-4 Highscore (165.900, 6.475 faster than macrohenry)
What the hell is this corner jump around frame 370? It almost seems too powerful to be true. Great work as always!
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Postby ska » 2020.01.20 (05:37)

Yeah, it looks like a physics-defying jump. I think the extra velocity is because of the corner jump prior that boost the horizontal momentum. Regardless, this is a masterpiece. Definitely one of my all-time favourite MBDs.

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Postby Raif » 2020.01.24 (01:52)

Yeah, it's because of the horizontal ck beforehand. Note I couldn't actually even hold jump for the full 31 frames because of the drones. Otherwise I could have pretty much cleared the ledge.


And a new MBD again, basic route is the same as realtime. Just modified a bit to include bbcjs and quads.

54-2 Highscore (131.600, 2.950 faster than macrohenry)

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Postby ska » 2020.01.24 (03:53)

I'm loving this revival, dude. Can we expect to see any more? Are you open to requests? How long did 54-2 take to make?

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Postby Raif » 2020.02.01 (06:03)

Sure, you can make requests, but I don't make any promises. About 4 hours I think. This one took about 5.

72-4 (113.950, 2.700 faster than jp27ace)

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2020.02.01 (17:32)

I just saw the last few MBD's, thanks for the awesome work Raif ;)
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About me & Stats (Spoiler)

Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12

Deds & Images (Spoiler)

Thanks to ska for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to BluePretzel for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to da_guru for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this full episode to me!: 00-0 00-100-2 00-3 00-4
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this mappack to me
Thanks to zoasBE for partially dedicating this map to me
Thanks to VODKALOVER for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to runningninja for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this map to me
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Postby ska » 2020.02.03 (06:56)

Delectable demo on 72-4.

A few suggestions I have are 85-0, 85-3, 99-4, and 74-3.

I'm curious if some thwump-jumping shenanigans can be utilized to save time on 99-4.

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Postby vankusss » 2020.03.14 (21:37)

Raif wrote:
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61-4 Highscore (165.900, 6.475 faster than macrohenry)
Well that's just ridiculous.
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Postby Raif » 2020.04.11 (00:36)

43-0 Highscore (167.350, 5.750 faster than Eddy)


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