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Postby ska » 2016.07.21 (09:25)

Highscores contests have been a staple of this forum since its inception. However, I don't think there has ever been a contest purely for manually created runs. I, like many of you, enjoy seeing N being pushed to its limits, and I've decided to set a weekly challenge level that will concentrate mostly on the original 00–99 episodes.

Rules: Anyone can enter, and you can just participate using standard FBF methods if you choose. To prevent people stealing your routes/ideas, please PM me your userlevel data; I will not share your demo data until the round is complete.

Scoring: Although I'm not expecting a lot of competitors for this, I have implemented a scoring system to help incentivise competition. This means that if a level doesn't appeal to you specifically, you won't feel pressured into creating a run. Scores will be given as follows:

One point will be rewarded for every frame saved off the current legitimate 0th. For example, for the first week's level, 85-3, a score of 181.125 would yield 13 points. For rounds where less frames are involved, I may double or even triple the value of each frame, since shaving a frame on a level such as 60-2 is more impressive than shaving off a frame on a level like 91-4. After an indefinite amount of rounds (which will be determined in part by the competition's popularity), a winner will be decided. Please state your method of creating your run when submitting; for example, if you used FBF or MBD techniques—or a combination of both. There's no reward of penalty for using either; it's just a matter of interest. For those interested in learning how to create MBDs, please consult the wiki on the subject; the N Demo Code Generator can be downloaded here.

Round 1 is 85-3. The deadline is Thursday, 28 July 2016 at 11:59:59 PM (AEST) (Multiple submissions are allowed; however, only your last submission before the deadline can be accepted.)

"Dodging Bullets" (by SquidgY) is a level that is special to me because it was my first 0th. Over the years, the level has been cleaned to a fairly high degree, with Eddy's time of 180.800 being 10.5 seconds faster than the 0th of less than ten years ago. Another reason for selecting this level to MBD is due to the chimney section, the almost RNG nature of the chainguns, the potential for interesting corner jumps, and the fact that it currently hasn't received the MBD treatment yet.

Please post to show your interest!

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2016.07.21 (18:22)

Lovely idea!

I'm not sure how much participation this will get, seeing as history has only seen a handful of people actually handcrafting these things, but I'll try to compete in some rounds (I'll be out on vacation some of them, but that won't be a problem).

People remember you might as well use FBF or underclock if you don't have the patience to MBD.

ska wrote:One point will be rewarded for every frame saved off the current legitimate 0th.


Well thought out scoring system, I like it ;)
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About me & Stats (Spoiler)

Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12

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Thanks to blue_rocks for dedicating this map to me
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Postby ska » 2016.07.23 (16:15)

EddyMataGallos wrote:Lovely idea!

I'm not sure how much participation this will get, seeing as history has only seen a handful of people actually handcrafting these things, but I'll try to compete in some rounds (I'll be out on vacation some of them, but that won't be a problem).

People remember you might as well use FBF or underclock if you don't have the patience to MBD.

No problem. I might even extend the deadline depending on activity. FBF, underclock, MBD, whatever; it doesn't matter, just as long you PM me the data.

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ska wrote:One point will be rewarded for every frame saved off the current legitimate 0th.


Well thought out scoring system, I like it ;)

Thanks! I wanted to keep the scoring system simple but effective. Actually, if you could pin this thread, that'd be awesome. I've already PM'd the usual suspects, but so far you're the only person to respond yet... :(

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Postby zapkt » 2016.07.24 (11:46)

Hey,

I'll try to build some tools to help MBDing, but I'm not sure I'll find the time or if what I want to do is possible.
I don't really like the idea of a competition and would rather have more collaboration on such topic, but eh, that's a highscore-related forum

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2016.07.24 (16:15)

zapkt wrote:Hey,

I'll try to build some tools to help MBDing, but I'm not sure I'll find the time or if what I want to do is possible.
I don't really like the idea of a competition and would rather have more collaboration on such topic, but eh, that's a highscore-related forum

This is something I also thought about, like, the community helping craft an MBD, although the problem with that is that when you edit anything in a run it's most likely you'll have to reedit the rest of the run as well.
ska wrote:Actually, if you could pin this thread, that'd be awesome. I've already PM'd the usual suspects, but so far you're the only person to respond yet... :(

I'm not sure pinning individual contests is a good idea though, looks a bit favoritistic.
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Impressive flag by ska -|- N2High - My software for N2.0 -|- Awesome sig by Hendor

About me & Stats (Spoiler)

Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12



Deds & Images (Spoiler)

Thanks to ska for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to BluePretzel for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to da_guru for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this full episode to me!: 00-0 00-100-2 00-3 00-4
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this mappack to me
Thanks to zoasBE for partially dedicating this map to me
Thanks to VODKALOVER for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to runningninja for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for partially dedicating this map to me
Thanks to trance for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to zoasBE for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to llabesab for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to the23 for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Traveleravi for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to 123leonidas321 for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to the23 for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Uniden for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Uniden for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Ors_II for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Sunset for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to blue_rocks for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Leonhard for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to blue_rocks for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Daggafork for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to VODKALOVER for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to blue_rocks for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to blue_rocks for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Armaghan_Ali for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Armaghan_Ali for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to Armaghan_Ali for dedicating this map to me
Thanks to RandomDigits/SpartaX18 for dedicating this map to me
Sorry if Im missing any ded.

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Postby ska » 2016.07.26 (11:59)

EddyMataGallos wrote:
zapkt wrote:Hey,

I'll try to build some tools to help MBDing, but I'm not sure I'll find the time or if what I want to do is possible.
I don't really like the idea of a competition and would rather have more collaboration on such topic, but eh, that's a highscore-related forum

This is something I also thought about, like, the community helping craft an MBD, although the problem with that is that when you edit anything in a run it's most likely you'll have to reedit the rest of the run as well.
ska wrote:Actually, if you could pin this thread, that'd be awesome. I've already PM'd the usual suspects, but so far you're the only person to respond yet... :(

I'm not sure pinning individual contests is a good idea though, looks a bit favoritistic.

Eddy coining English words now; I love it! Yeah, no problem. Guess the contest is dead in the water. Can't say I'm surprised, to be honest. A collaborative MBD would be good, but you've already pointed out a potential pitfall.


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