NReality and Nv2

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Postby cooperverdon » 2015.05.26 (14:29)

Hi guys,

So I recently downloaded nreality because I was told by getpucht that 7.2 had fixed lag issues. The game doesnt lag like it used to, but it is still choppy.
Can those of you who play nreality more often play this level http://www.thewayoftheninja.org/nv2.html?l=159499 (search 1400 in search box of nv2). Does your nreality run this smoothly? Is mine lagging, or is the choppyness a result of the different frame rates, and the fact that I'm used to 60 makes the drop is noticeable/problematic?

Nreality is currently not too bad, I could get used to it, but I want to know if what I'm experiencing when I play is different to what you guys are.

Summary:
Play my motherlode nv2 upload. After trying it, tell me honestly if nv2 runs smoother or less smooth or the same.

Much appreciated
cooperverdon

PS. If you try it, give the highscore a go, Id be interested in seeing how you guys can adapt to nv2 physics. For this level, the replays are faster (you seem to retain more speed on the slopes before the key in nv2). Time in 40FPS; 5400-4891=509 => 509*(40fps/60fps)=339 vs Kools 345 nreality run. Thats just game physics related, I'm not saying my nv2 run is more impressive, I just thought the math was interesting. (I dont think its wrong, but if it is, I actually want to be corrected).

This makes me sound like a twat, I'm not an elitist, I don't know how to get rid of that tone yet still ask this question.

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2015.05.26 (18:36)

It doesn't make you sound like a twat. Indeed, v2.0 has different physics so it's hard to compare times, and in particular you not only preserve but gain a lot of speed/momentum in slopes compared to v1.4, it's pretty stunning, I remember ska making a video about this, although in curved slopes this is even more noticeable. As a matter of fact, I just took 2 mins to clean a frame and around 5-6 more to clean 5 frames more, and it's still far from my NReality run quality, not to mention Kool's 0th run.

In this case in particular, you can see it's all in the triple slope before the switch, which gives you one hell of a boost compared to v1.4 (I just saw some runs in NReality after playing in v2.0, and man the slope part is just really slow in comparison, but you can't do anything to avoid that).

Of course, you'll always feel more smoothness in v2.0, because it runs at a 50% higher frame-rate. So regarding NReality (or v1.4 in general), I would say it's not choppiness but rather lower framerate, but believe me you'll get used to it pretty quickly you just have to keep playing and try to forget it, it'll be like a matter of a couple days until you forget about it.

Although I'm nobody to talk about this because I still use Windows XP, which is well known for running N smoothly as fuck (without lag, but it's still 40 fps xD). NReality had strong lag issues with Vista/7/8, and I don't know if sidke's new version has fixed them completely or not, so I can't really tell here.

Can some NReality experienced played now using sidke's version confirm whether the lag is fully gone or not? It has to be a v1.4 player so he knows the usual NReality framerate. I did play with Win7 3 years ago though, there was some lag, but with the classic fixes it was bearable and got used to it.
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Postby shomman » 2015.05.27 (00:57)

EddyMataGallos wrote:It doesn't make you sound like a twat. Indeed, v2.0 has different physics so it's hard to compare times, and in particular you not only preserve but gain a lot of speed/momentum in slopes compared to v1.4, it's pretty stunning, I remember ska making a video about this, although in curved slopes this is even more noticeable. As a matter of fact, I just took 2 mins to clean a frame and around 5-6 more to clean 5 frames more, and it's still far from my NReality run quality, not to mention Kool's 0th run.

In this case in particular, you can see it's all in the triple slope before the switch, which gives you one hell of a boost compared to v1.4 (I just saw some runs in NReality after playing in v2.0, and man the slope part is just really slow in comparison, but you can't do anything to avoid that).

Of course, you'll always feel more smoothness in v2.0, because it runs at a 50% higher frame-rate. So regarding NReality (or v1.4 in general), I would say it's not choppiness but rather lower framerate, but believe me you'll get used to it pretty quickly you just have to keep playing and try to forget it, it'll be like a matter of a couple days until you forget about it.

Although I'm nobody to talk about this because I still use Windows XP, which is well known for running N smoothly as fuck (without lag, but it's still 40 fps xD). NReality had strong lag issues with Vista/7/8, and I don't know if sidke's new version has fixed them completely or not, so I can't really tell here.

Can some NReality experienced played now using sidke's version confirm whether the lag is fully gone or not? It has to be a v1.4 player so he knows the usual NReality framerate. I did play with Win7 3 years ago though, there was some lag, but with the classic fixes it was bearable and got used to it.



I don't know if I count as a v1.4 player but nreality doesn't lag for me.
I used to play the old versions which definitely did, but the new one is pretty good for Windows 8 (don't know about 7)
The 40fps continues to be a little weird and there are physics tricks I don't think I'll ever get used to, but they don't stop the ability to play the game.
Cooper it's hard to tell if you are experiencing lag based on your description - I don't think you are.
If need be you could take a video of your screen with your phone or w/e. Screen capturers usually don't portray the fps accurately so a phone video would serve you better.
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Postby cooperverdon » 2015.06.03 (13:42)

So in configuration I have changed image quality to med. The lag has been reduced further. Maybe the fact that nreality is a larger game and my laptop is a bit shitty added a bit of lag to the game.

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2015.06.03 (18:00)

You can also try doing the rest of the classic fixes (pic by Raif):
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I never did the sound ones, only the other settings.
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Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12



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