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Troll is obvious troll, flagmyidol.flagmyidol wrote:Every Disney movie and every Pixar movie and are you kidding?!?!
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Nononono. Pixar movies are great, also even more better when compared to Disney movies.Tsukatu wrote:You must be retarded or something.SeventhSpirit wrote:every Pixar Movie.
Although I watched "Finding Nemo" probably a five thousand times, considering that, you should be a real retard.
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Hardly. He's just an idiot.SlappyMcGee wrote:Troll is obvious troll, flagmyidol.flagmyidol wrote:Every Disney movie and every Pixar movie and are you kidding?!?!
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I don't hate Pixar XD But I do hate Disney. Pixar is awesome lol XD Just wanted to see what you people would say if I actually did put that. lol, hilarious
yes.flagmyidol wrote:Every Disney movie and every Pixar movie and are you kidding?!?!
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flagmyidol wrote:Hardly. He's just an idiot.SlappyMcGee wrote:Troll is obvious troll, flagmyidol.
Idiot troll is troll. How come flame doesn't work as well on internet troll as DnD troll?SeventhSpirit wrote:I don't hate Pixar XD But I do hate Disney. Pixar is awesome lol XD Just wanted to see what you people would say if I actually did put that. lol, hilarious
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...What?rennaT wrote: Idiot troll is troll. How come flame doesn't work as well on internet troll as DnD troll?
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flagmyidol, I write this post to inform you, using quotes, that this character was, in fact, a troll. Now, allow me to make a culturally relevant pun.SeventhSpirit wrote:...What?rennaT wrote: Idiot troll is troll. How come flame doesn't work as well on internet troll as DnD troll?
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!Idk, much? wrote: SeventhSpirit, I laugh at your incompetence to reject your further going statement. I wish not to trouble you, but you are bloke. A big, fat, stupid bloke. And you will always be that way.
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Don't take this away from me! It's all I got, man!SlappyMcGee wrote:flagmyidol, I write this post to inform you, using quotes, that this character was, in fact, a troll. Now, allow me to make a culturally relevant pun.
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Maybe he'll go away at daybreak.SlappyMcGee wrote:flagmyidol, I write this post to inform you, using quotes, that this character was, in fact, a troll. Now, allow me to make a culturally relevant pun.SeventhSpirit wrote:...What?rennaT wrote: Idiot troll is troll. How come flame doesn't work as well on internet troll as DnD troll?
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As ridiculous and corny as Hancock was, I kind of appreciate that they attempted to take a real comic book approach with the plot. I loved the concept, and the first part of the film was a lot of fun, it's a real shame they ham-fisted the reveal and climax.Tsukatu wrote:Oh, I've got two more for the list:
Hancock
2001: A Space Odyssey
2001 I've yet to see, I really should so I could take part in debates with 'proper' film buffs...
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Tsukatu, Hancock was awful, but you betray yourself in saying 2001 is one of the shittiest movies in the entire history of the world. Maybe you just don't appreciate deep themes, groundbreaking special effects, and unique approaches at character development like I do, though.Tsukatu wrote:Oh, I've got two more for the list:
Hancock
2001: A Space Odyssey
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The Matrix Revolutions (Keep telling myself it never happened)
Solaris (The 2002 version Pretentious over-rated nonsense)
Baby Geniuses
Zombie! vs. Mardi Gras (can't believe it was actually made)
Wishmaster 2: Evil Never Dies
The Starwars Holiday Special (maybe not a film but whatever)
The Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy (just thinking about it makes me angry)
Total Recall (although quite enjoyable)
Highschool Musical (only saw like 5 minutes of it but couldn't smile for about a week)
There are so many more I'll just have to come back and add them
Hancocks bad but no way near the level of these films I don't think it even damaged me. 2001: A Space Odyssey is a little dated but still a special effects landmark which also manages to make you think on so many levels you could hardly be more wrong this is one of my favourite films.Oh, I've got two more for the list:
Hancock
2001: A Space Odyssey
Firstly I you haven't seen the movie it's a bit stupid to comment on it but it did annoy me a bit that he just killed off Newt. Anyway thats besides the point David Fincher is a hero for trying to take the series back to its roots after Cameron shat on Ridley Scott's masterpeice.I haven't seen the movie but when I learned that David Fincher killed off all of the survivors from Aliens except Ripley at the beginning of Alien 3 I was furious. I mean, what the fuck? Cameron did a beautiful job with that movie, and Fincher just took a shit on it.
The original movie brilliantly build atmosphere and suspense by never fully showing the alien (until the end with the air lock scene which is its one flaw) just hinting at it's presents showing you little glimpses of it, playing on our fear of the unknown, building up the alien as a virtually indestructible evil. With a great plot and ahead of it's time special effects that weren't allowed to take centre stage over the charecter development.
Taking on this great legacy Cameron decided to say screw suspense and art lets turn it into pumped up action movie, que massive ship crashes, driving scenes, a complete reveal of tons of aliens as soon as the fights start and flying away from a thermonuclear explosion just in time. The acting and character development was generally cliche and terrible all except the little girl who did do ok. Lines like 'they mostly only come at night ... mostly' and 'Get away from her, you BITCH!' were just awful and totally out of line with the intelligence the film should have had. Even the length seriously suffered with far to many 'final face off' scenes including the aliens coming through the roof, Ribley somehow saving Newt from all those Aliens and the queen fight where she manages to hold the weight of the queen that robot thing and herself being sucked through an airlock on one arm. The special effects were at times good but allowed to take far to much p residence leading the whole thing to become a massively unrealistic overblown michealbayesque commercialisation of the original and that angers me.
The 3rd movie did go back to the first a little removing many of the special effects and returning to the silent stalking alien taking one person at a time rarely being fully seen at the start that I liked. It also had some interesting characters developed in the prisoners, the insane guy and the medical guy which I liked and although the logic of the ending was questionable and it wasn't up to the first it certainly recovered the series a good amount. The 4th movie was also interesting with it's genetic modification premise and some really powerful scenes although the final human-alien was poorly done I think it firmly sealed the 2nd movies place as the worst in the series. Watch them in order and you may see my point END RANT
Edit: Slappy Aliens is a travesty I saw it as a kid and was disappointed then and then about 6 mounths ago watched the whole series in order and was disappointed again so I know I'm right on this I've given my reasons nothing more to say
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...chume14 wrote:(until the end with the air lock scene which is its one flaw)
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movies that look like shit that I have yet to view:
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- 2012
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2012 is pretty good. though I didn't like the ending. I mean, why didn't they go to space??!bobaga_fett wrote:Planet Terror. wayyyyyy overdone and way too long. it was absolutely horrible.
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I do have a great appreciation for those things. If 2001 had any of those, I probably would've enjoyed it a whole lot more.SlappyMcGee wrote:you betray yourself in saying 2001 is one of the shittiest movies in the entire history of the world. Maybe you just don't appreciate deep themes, groundbreaking special effects, and unique approaches at character development like I do, though.
Instead, we see a very slow-paced and boring presentation of a predictable problem and a crew's slow-paced and straight-forward approach to fixing it. A simple account of someone being frustrated at having been locked out of his house late at night was clearly the only inspiration for the insignificant elements of horror in the movie. Then we watch an astronaut have a visually-appealing stroke, and that's topped off with unappreciable nonsense about solitude and giant fetuses. "Like, the baby is the world, maaaaan."
There is zero character development, underwhelming conflict, unimpressive characters or plot, and the themes covered have simplistic and superficial depth. The movie would only entertain someone high out of his mind, and only if he is already predisposed to contriving meaning and artistic brilliance from something he is told beforehand is supposed to have those elements. I'm sure you know the type.
I think people often forget that the deepest the meaning can be is limited by the artist, who is nothing more than human. Nowhere is there a work of art that intentionally conveys a message or meaning of such profundity that it's transcendent of human understanding, and it bothers me that people are so often eager to give this status to a work of art that impressed them. After watching 2001 and being thoroughly unimpressed, I spent a good few hours Googling around to look for explanations of themes I might've missed, and found none; I had successfully picked up on and understood most of the intended meaning, and it didn't interest me.
To put yourself in my shoes, imagine having finished read 1984 (which I'm thinking is a bad example because 1984 is excellent), and after the novelty has worn off, having someone excitedly give you a revelatory explanation that it's about totalitarianism and censorship, and so you've clearly missed out on those elements because you're not as excited about the book as he is. What do you say to that but "duh"? That's what my experience has been with discussions centered on this movie. People are so excited about unexciting things, and jump to the conclusion that my lack of enthusiasm about them means lack of awareness of them.
The movie is shit, Slappy. It's simplistic and it's uninteresting. It's shit.
Moreover, it's hugely overrated shit, which is admittedly a pretty strong contributor to my dislike of the movie overall.
I'm known to be a temporal chauvenist, so I won't comment on the special effects. Suffice it to say that I don't think the movie would be at all improved given modern special effects; it would only give the pile of crap a sparkle and shine.
Excuse me?chume14 wrote:The Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy
I mean, sure, it's pretty "meh" quality in some parts, but it's overall pretty damned excellent. Are you saying that it disgraces the book? Or do you just not the work overall?
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boba: Zombieland was surprisingly good, certainly don't write it off as one of the "shittest movies" ever before you've seen it.
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My god you couldn't be more wrong. It absolutely PAINS me to see you:chume14 wrote: Firstly I you haven't seen the movie it's a bit stupid to comment on it but it did annoy me a bit that he just killed off Newt. Anyway thats besides the point David Fincher is a hero for trying to take the series back to its roots after Cameron shat on Ridley Scott's masterpeice.
The original movie brilliantly build atmosphere and suspense by never fully showing the alien (until the end with the air lock scene which is its one flaw) just hinting at it's presents showing you little glimpses of it, playing on our fear of the unknown, building up the alien as a virtually indestructible evil. With a great plot and ahead of it's time special effects that weren't allowed to take centre stage over the charecter development.
Taking on this great legacy Cameron decided to say screw suspense and art lets turn it into pumped up action movie, que massive ship crashes, driving scenes, a complete reveal of tons of aliens as soon as the fights start and flying away from a thermonuclear explosion just in time. The acting and character development was generally cliche and terrible all except the little girl who did do ok. Lines like 'they mostly only come at night ... mostly' and 'Get away from her, you BITCH!' were just awful and totally out of line with the intelligence the film should have had. Even the length seriously suffered with far to many 'final face off' scenes including the aliens coming through the roof, Ribley somehow saving Newt from all those Aliens and the queen fight where she manages to hold the weight of the queen that robot thing and herself being sucked through an airlock on one arm. The special effects were at times good but allowed to take far to much p residence leading the whole thing to become a massively unrealistic overblown michealbayesque commercialisation of the original and that angers me.
The 3rd movie did go back to the first a little removing many of the special effects and returning to the silent stalking alien taking one person at a time rarely being fully seen at the start that I liked. It also had some interesting characters developed in the prisoners, the insane guy and the medical guy which I liked and although the logic of the ending was questionable and it wasn't up to the first it certainly recovered the series a good amount. The 4th movie was also interesting with it's genetic modification premise and some really powerful scenes although the final human-alien was poorly done I think it firmly sealed the 2nd movies place as the worst in the series. Watch them in order and you may see my point END RANT
Edit: Slappy Aliens is a travesty I saw it as a kid and was disappointed then and then about 6 mounths ago watched the whole series in order and was disappointed again so I know I'm right on this I've given my reasons nothing more to say
Overlook the absolute brilliance in the genre shift that Cameron pulled by transposing the Sci-Fi horror to a Sci-Fi Action setting
Compare one of the greatest character writers and action film makers of all time to that cine-criminal, bay!
Cameron evolved the series absolutely perfectly, for it to have continued in the same vein as Scotts own masterpiece would have been a shocking error and one that would have no doubt killed the series before it had a chance to take its first breaths.
Action films do not mean dumb by default. Cameron's dialogue may be corny in places, but PEOPLE are corny in places and situations. Hudson, John Connor, Quaritch, all perfect examples of the type of person who would spew this kind of dialogue in the real world. He writes for the moment, for the character, not aiming for the academy with constant flowery prose or with any other regard than development.
That his film made Ripley into a fully fledged character, that she is one of the most iconic characters of all time, that the film is peppered with iconic quotes and scenes and designs is full testament to its brilliance.
"They mostly come out at night, mostly." How is this unintelligent in the slightest? It's coming from the mouth of a little, traumatised girl, who;s entire colony has been ravaged by what may as well be Hell's demons. It's a perfectly reasonable line.
"Get away from her you bitch!" - This is the epitome of the Ripley character. The mother who has lost her daughter only to have found in Newt a way to remember that bond. The line is all the anger and resentment and pain she's felt since her first contact with the creature through to to knowledge of the loss of her own daughter and beyond... even the way Weaver delivers it is absolute perfect. Again, a great line and one that's iconic for a very good reason.
Oh, and you think that after encountering the aliens for the first time and having 80% of their team wiped out in seconds, their drop ship with all their equipment being destroyed, and the threat of the reactor blowing in a matter of hours, you think that in this strung out shape they wouldn't overlook something as simple as the roof? That's the entire point, they were running on half batteries, they had little hope, and they were all scared shitless. Of course they were going to overlook something. The entire first half of the movie was a build up to that moment and the fire fight that ensued.
The film is full of great, fully rounded and memorable characters, masterful action sequences and iconic dialogue and designs. You might not like it, but you certainly don't get it. And please don't compare it to the celluloid abortions of that primitive Bay... Ugh, ugh...
And it wasn't a commercialisation, it was a natural and interesting progression of a story. So there.
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