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They have really started to loosen up with their plot-lines due to the long-running success of the show, and I think this is a mixed blessing. It can result in bizarre plots and events, or ideas that have been "flogged" before. They have gotten into a groove of where episodes go, which I find a little bit annoying. It still beats a hell of a lot of animated shows out there, though.
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That's my view, too. I enjoy watching the episodes that are shown on TV - especially the newer ones - but they're not as funny as some of the classic ones. I'm still kind of glad that it continues though, because it does have its moments.ortsz wrote:I've seen a few recent episodes and they are better than the slightly-less-recent episodes.
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It's a tall order for such a long running show to keep being funny, so I think they are doing well considering.
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I'm currently at season 17, and, although the quality does go downside a lot in comparison with the earlies, it still has some good episodes. For example, The Monkey Suit.
Also, I recently got SciFi Channel on my TV, and there's Futurama on it. I didn't watch it, although I probably will when I find some time.
I think MG should dedicate to one of these shows. The Simpsons' quality is suffering more than Futurama (it's how I heard), and Futurama is newer, so canceling TS would be logical.
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I'm not sure you understand the Matt Groening Situation.EdoI wrote:Ahaha, my favorite TV show after Star Trek!
I'm currently at season 17, and, although the quality does go downside a lot in comparison with the earlies, it still has some good episodes. For example, The Monkey Suit.
Also, I recently got SciFi Channel on my TV, and there's Futurama on it. I didn't watch it, although I probably will when I find some time.
I think MG should dedicate to one of these shows. The Simpsons' quality is suffering more than Futurama (it's how I heard), and Futurama is newer, so canceling TS would be logical.
Since MG created The Simpsons, he has been credited with writing (or co-writing) four scripts in the entire run of the 20 Season series. He's never been a head writer, and it's my understanding that, while he occasionally popped in to the writing room back in the day, he's virtually uninvolved. (A noted exception being the mediocre to good film, which he was also credited with writing.)
On Futurama, Matt Groening has been credited with co-writing just one episode; Space Pilot 3000. The show has been run and executed by David X. Cohen (who, incidentally, also cowrote the first episode.) Matt Groening's involvement in this case was, as I understand it, much more realistic. He has been involved in every writing room for every episode in this show, but it would seem, from the various commentary tracks, that the degree of his involvement is up for debate.
Now, that being said, he makes plenty of appearances, helps to teach people drawing and cartooning, and he is involved in every commentary track for the DVD releases of The Simpsons and Futurama, so it's not like he's slacking. But certainly it is not the pull between the two that shows both marked decline in quality. Futurama has gone downhill because it can not deal with the film format, and I look forward to seeing this change during the next episodic season. The Simpsons "decline" matches up with changes in showrunners and writing staff. It's obvious that Oakley and Weinstein emphasized making the show more obscure and absurd; Mike Scully pressed these limits even further, sometimes forgetting about the heart of the show, and then finally, Al Jean came in and, despite his cred as an earlier show runner, could do little with the new writing staff that was young enough to be fans of the seasons he had worked on. I think that the fact that it has improved recently probably has to do with some of the writing staff brought on by Scully quitting, and we're getting different people in the mix.
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The difference is sharper in a show with more casual production (i.e. less professional) like Aqua Teen Hunger Force. If you've seen the later seasons and then jump back to season 1, it's very obvious that the voice actors and the animators are still trying to get a feel for their characters. I think a good way to minimize this (time permitting, of course) would be to animate and record the first season and maybe even start in on the second season to get the actors and animators broken in, and then go back and re-record / animate the first half.
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That's a really fantastic idea, you see this effect with a lot of artists/creators.Tsukatu wrote:If you've seen the later seasons and then jump back to season 1, it's very obvious that the voice actors and the animators are still trying to get a feel for their characters. I think a good way to minimize this (time permitting, of course) would be to animate and record the first season and maybe even start in on the second season to get the actors and animators broken in, and then go back and re-record / animate the first half.
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[13:50:53] <Zeph> omfg 1950s jazz
[13:50:57] <WorldCupE> ZEPH
[13:51:01] <WorldCupE> WHAT
[13:51:11] <WorldCupE> hpw
[13:51:12] <WorldCupE> how
[13:51:12] <Zeph> everyone wears out halfway through the match
[13:51:15] <WorldCupE> ._.
[13:51:17] <WorldCupE> you
[13:51:19] <WorldCupE> aren't
[13:51:20] <WorldCupE> here
[13:51:24] <WorldCupikaze> I think the broadcasters lowered the volume for certain frequencies
[13:51:35] <WorldCupikaze> WOAH
[13:51:38] <WorldCupikaze> STOP IT ZEPH
[13:51:46] <WorldCupE> he's in #n
[13:51:49] <WorldCupE> but not here
[13:51:58] <Zeph> that nz guy wasn't fouled
[13:52:05] <WorldCupikaze> DUBBLE YOO. TEE. EFF.
[13:52:05] <WorldCupikaze> STOPIT
[13:52:29] <WorldCupE> I don't think Zeph can read what we say
[13:52:38] <WorldCupikaze> No
[13:52:41] <WorldCupikaze> But it still happens
[13:52:46] <WorldCupE> xD
[13:52:47] <Zeph> holy shot I'm vibrating to 1950s relaxing jazz
[13:52:58] <WorldCupE> ZEPH
[13:53:01] <WorldCupE> CAN YOYU HEAR ME
[13:53:20] <WorldCupE> donfuy
[13:53:23] <WorldCupE> have you seen this
[13:53:35] <Donfuy> i can't
[13:53:43] <WorldCupE> can't what
[13:53:47] <WorldCupE> Zeph isn't here
[13:53:48] <WorldCupikaze> WHAT's GOING ON
[13:53:51] <WorldCupE> but is speaking
[13:53:51] <WorldCupE> D:
[13:53:58] <Donfuy> can't see what huh?
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[13:54:10] <Donfuy> where's zeph o_o
[13:54:18] <WorldCupE> precisely
[13:54:21] <WorldCupikaze> Exactly
[13:55:21] <WorldCupikaze> call wide
[13:55:24] <Zeph> Pooh
[13:55:28] <WorldCupikaze> EH?
[13:55:37] <WorldCupikaze> OOOOOOOOoh
[13:55:38] <Zeph> amazing slide tackle saves day
[13:55:48] <WorldCupikaze> WHY ARE YOU TALKING YOU AREN'T HERE
[13:56:53] <WorldCupikaze> call wide
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I agree that the plots have changed, but I'm really indiffrent to the question of if they are better or worse.
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On another note, the age of the simpsons is questionable. For example the simpsons are celebrating their 20th year of being on TV. This would mean bart is around 30, lisa late 20s and maggie early 20s. Homer and marge are 60ish. Abe 90ish (100?). Santa's little helper must be some sort of demigod.
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Has the animation changed lately? I didn't notice...
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Ignoring the preposterousness of the rest of your post, I'm pretty sure SLH died at some point and came back, which would, indeed, make him godlike. Like, Gandalf godlike. Big time.Aphex wrote: Santa's little helper must be some sort of demigod.
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<3rocket_thumped wrote:I prefer Simpsons Lite.
That aside, I saw one of the newer episodes (who know which season it was from... Australian T.V and all) and there were many sad moments where I saw a joke, and it was clearly a joke, but it was not funny in any sense, it was either stupid, in bad taste, or, the most poignant, cheap. I was really irritated.
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