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Postby Scrivener » 2010.07.10 (21:49)

Yeah, it looks good. Can't wait to see it. I read a book once with a very similar premise, called (The) Dream Merchant
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Postby  yahoozy » 2010.07.10 (21:54)

Slightly off-topic, but have any of you seen Paprika? It's relatively the same premise, but beautiful animated and directed by Satoshi Kon. I recommend that if you're just interested in a film toying with the idea of exploring dreams.

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Postby rocket_thumped » 2010.07.11 (02:51)

Yahoozy wrote:Slightly off-topic, but have any of you seen Paprika? It's relatively the same premise, but beautiful animated and directed by Satoshi Kon. I recommend that if you're just interested in a film toying with the idea of exploring dreams.
I've wanted to see this for a long time. I saw it at my blockbuster the other day, but was on a date movie trip.
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Postby unoriginal name » 2010.07.11 (06:55)

Yahoozy wrote:Slightly off-topic, but have any of you seen Paprika? It's relatively the same premise, but beautiful animated and directed by Satoshi Kon. I recommend that if you're just interested in a film toying with the idea of exploring dreams.
Excellent, excellent movie. Furthermore, I am seeing Inception opening day, no doubt.

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Postby Amadeus » 2010.07.11 (19:27)

Based on the 4 screenings/reviews so far, Inception has a perfect 100 on Metacritic
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Postby Limer » 2010.07.11 (20:14)

Cage is completely hit and miss for me. Sometimes hes brilliant, like in Leaving Las Vegas, Bad Lieutenant, Lord of War ect. But sometimes hes horrible and droll and horrible, like in National Treasure or Weather Man. So while he is talented i would not put him among people such as DiCaprio who hasn't given an average performance since Titannic (imo).

Michael Bay. He entertains you. He can't make sequels. If you are a person who can appreciate a Bay action sequence then your brain must be working atleast 3 or 4 times faster then normal people. He made Megan Fox quit (grr).

I can't wait for Inception! DiCaprio is one of my favorite actors. Gordon-Levitt was in 2 or my favorite films of the decade (Brick and 500 days). Cillian Murphy is one of the most underrated actors at the moment. Ellen Page can pull of being pregnant.. so i guess that could help?
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Postby Kablizzy » 2010.07.11 (20:37)

I, for one, am impressed by his want to stray from 3d and CCG at all costs.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.11 (21:07)

Limer wrote:Cage is completely hit and miss for me. Sometimes hes brilliant, like in Leaving Las Vegas, Bad Lieutenant, Lord of War ect. But sometimes hes horrible and droll and horrible, like in National Treasure or Weather Man.
It's a fair argument, but I often find they are bad films that are made watchable by the malleability of his acting.
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Postby rocket_thumped » 2010.07.11 (21:27)

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Limer wrote:Cage is completely hit and miss for me. Sometimes hes brilliant, like in Leaving Las Vegas, Bad Lieutenant, Lord of War ect. But sometimes hes horrible and droll and horrible, like in National Treasure or Weather Man.
It's a fair argument, but I often find they are bad films that are made watchable by the malleability of his acting.
I liked Weather Man. How everyone hates him, how is own father and children have no respect for him. A lot of good dead pan comedy too. Like after he saves his son from a child molester, they go out to eat and his son orders corn dogs.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.11 (21:43)

Everyone forgets The Rock which was one of Cage's best movies.
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Postby a happy song » 2010.07.11 (22:11)

hairscapades wrote:Everyone forgets The Rock which was one of Cage's best movies.
I wouldn't say one of his best, but it's certainly fun. That and Bad Boys are two Bay films I quite like.

I think Raising Arizona is my favourite Cage vehicle.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.11 (22:18)

a happy song wrote:I think Raising Arizona is my favourite Cage vehicle.
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.07.13 (04:51)

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a happy song wrote:I think Raising Arizona is my favourite Cage vehicle.
Have you ever had sex with another man while commenting on DuChamp and smoking a cigarette? Just curious.
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Postby bobaganuesh_2 » 2010.07.14 (08:17)

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hairscapades wrote:Everyone forgets The Rock which was one of Cage's best movies.
I wouldn't say one of his best, but it's certainly fun. That and Bad Boys are two Bay films I quite like.
speaking of Martin Lawrence, I consider What's the Worst That Can Happen? to be his best comedy film.
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That movie sucked. Way too long, DiCaprio was alright, Nicholson was horrible, Wahlberg was plain stupid. Especially the end. What a cop-out. At least they managed to stick to the majority of the story line, which is from the original and still better Chinese movie that they remake for some reason that is unapparent to me. Hollywood appeal to America is an excuse that has and never suffice as a reason for a movie to be remade, in my opinion.

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Postby a happy song » 2010.07.14 (10:48)

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SBD wrote:The Departed
That movie sucked. Way too long, DiCaprio was alright, Nicholson was horrible, Wahlberg was plain stupid. Especially the end. What a cop-out. At least they managed to stick to the majority of the story line, which is from the original and still better Chinese movie that they remake for some reason that is unapparent to me. Hollywood appeal to America is an excuse that has and never suffice as a reason for a movie to be remade, in my opinion.
Sorry, but while Infernal Affairs is a decent enough film, The Departed craps on it from the top of a rather tall building.

The characters, script, pacing, editing, everything in The Departed is simply more memorable and satisfying and just /better/. And I enjoy world cinema very much, and have no underlying preference for any country's output.

This was more than a simple cash in remake a la The Ring or the announced Old Boy (I might cry...), this was a piece of art that was envisioned and constructed by someone who actually gave a shit about the story.

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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.14 (12:55)

I hated The Departed. I walked out of the theater.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.14 (15:33)

The Departed is fucking wonderful. Maybe Scorcese's best.
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Postby smartalco » 2010.07.14 (20:03)

SlappyMcGee wrote:Not that some of his filmmaking isn't good, but if you could point me to an action scene from TDK that you find particularly good, I'll take a look at it.
To bring us back to TDK and Nolan vs. Bay: The scene where the police are transporting Dent in the armored truck (that secretly has Gordon driving) is brilliant. He could have done that completely over the top, bullets everywhere, random explosions (kinda like a Bay movie!), but instead toned it way back. There is no music, you get a clear view of what is going on, and in the end, Batman does something brilliant that also looks cool (even if I'm not sure it obeys the laws of physics). The entire scene creates tension leading up to Joker's capture, and at the end you are thinking 'fuck yeah, they got him'.

As for the scene in BB where Wayne manor gets burned down, here is my average-movie-goer point of view. Why the fuck does that have to be a metaphor for anything? Neeson's character was going to destroy the entirety of Gotham anyway, why not start by trying to kill possibly the only guy who could stop him? I think critics occasionally get lost in trying to interpret movies/books/music and forget to just enjoy it (this goes for english teachers too, my senior year of high school, I picked Ender's Game as my final book report specifically because Card says in the preface that he wrote the book intentionally not trying to make certain scenes metaphors for Ender and without forshadowing, why can't movies just be like that?).

As for Nolan vs. Bay: Bay movies are awesome to look at (the CGI in Transformers is beautiful), Nolan movies are awesome to watch.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.14 (21:36)

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SlappyMcGee wrote:Not that some of his filmmaking isn't good, but if you could point me to an action scene from TDK that you find particularly good, I'll take a look at it.
To bring us back to TDK and Nolan vs. Bay: The scene where the police are transporting Dent in the armored truck (that secretly has Gordon driving) is brilliant. He could have done that completely over the top, bullets everywhere, random explosions (kinda like a Bay movie!), but instead toned it way back. There is no music, you get a clear view of what is going on, and in the end, Batman does something brilliant that also looks cool (even if I'm not sure it obeys the laws of physics). The entire scene creates tension leading up to Joker's capture, and at the end you are thinking 'fuck yeah, they got him'.

As for the scene in BB where Wayne manor gets burned down, here is my average-movie-goer point of view. Why the fuck does that have to be a metaphor for anything? Neeson's character was going to destroy the entirety of Gotham anyway, why not start by trying to kill possibly the only guy who could stop him? I think critics occasionally get lost in trying to interpret movies/books/music and forget to just enjoy it (this goes for english teachers too, my senior year of high school, I picked Ender's Game as my final book report specifically because Card says in the preface that he wrote the book intentionally not trying to make certain scenes metaphors for Ender and without forshadowing, why can't movies just be like that?).

As for Nolan vs. Bay: Bay movies are awesome to look at (the CGI in Transformers is beautiful), Nolan movies are awesome to watch.

The difference between a Micheal Bay movie and a Christopher Nolan movie, or, a good movie, is not just a lack of excess on the part of the good filmmaker, it's the meaning they apply to each scene and how aesthetic remains interesting while pushing forward an idea. I can enjoy shit that is stupid; the reason I bring up the Wayne Manor scene is I find it confusing mostly, which extends to a failure on the part of the director, as well as an obvious albeit ineffective metaphor. There's a difference between turning your brain off and enjoying something and disliking something because the director is not aware of the stupidity of the scene. It's why Crank is awesome, and The Transporter, less so.

I will take a look at the TDK scene and get back to you.
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Postby bobaganuesh_2 » 2010.07.15 (00:29)

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bobaga_fett wrote:
SBD wrote:The Departed
That movie sucked. Way too long, DiCaprio was alright, Nicholson was horrible, Wahlberg was plain stupid. Especially the end. What a cop-out. At least they managed to stick to the majority of the story line, which is from the original and still better Chinese movie that they remake for some reason that is unapparent to me. Hollywood appeal to America is an excuse that has and never suffice as a reason for a movie to be remade, in my opinion.
Sorry, but while Infernal Affairs is a decent enough film, The Departed craps on it from the top of a rather tall building.

The characters, script, pacing, editing, everything in The Departed is simply more memorable and satisfying and just /better/. And I enjoy world cinema very much, and have no underlying preference for any country's output.

This was more than a simple cash in remake a la The Ring or the announced Old Boy (I might cry...), this was a piece of art that was envisioned and constructed by someone who actually gave a shit about the story.

A great film.
DiCaprio is going to produce and act in a live-action remake of Akira. It's going to be directed by the guy who directed Blade, which wasn't too bad, and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which was quite bad.

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Postby a happy song » 2010.07.15 (00:42)

bobaga_fett wrote: DiCaprio is going to produce and act in a live-action remake of Akira. It's going to be directed by the guy who directed Blade, which wasn't too bad, and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which was quite bad.
I've read about a few directors attached to this, has Stephen whatever he's called been confirmed? I hope not...

Leo seems to really care about the source from what I remember reading, it has potential to be a cool adaptation.
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Postby Luminaflare » 2010.07.15 (01:51)

Sorry but i really can't get my head around the latter part of akira in live action. If this means replica bikes though awesome.

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Postby rocket_thumped » 2010.07.15 (01:59)

Luminaflare wrote:Sorry but i really can't get my head around the latter part of akira in live action. If this means replica bikes though awesome.
yeah, the bike scenes will be amazing in live action.
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.07.15 (05:26)

hairscapades wrote:I hated The Departed. I walked out of the theater.
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