Do you believe in luck?

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Postby Rose » 2010.05.28 (03:02)

I'll admit I didn't do an iota of research before entering this thread, but doesn't "luck" just mean a pattern of favorable or unfavorable circumstance?
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Postby Vyacheslav » 2010.05.28 (03:31)

I'm a lucky man.
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Postby Sheep » 2010.05.28 (04:17)

I believe that anything bad that could possibly happen, will happen.
And if you're lucky, it won't.
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Postby otters » 2010.05.28 (06:07)

I haven't actually answered properly yet. I am
  • the luckiest person in my family
  • the only atheist
  • the only person who doesn't believe in luck.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2010.05.28 (07:10)

lord_day wrote:
Tsukatu wrote:I believe in a functionally clockwork universe, and that every event that'll ever happen (assuming the universe is closed and isolated, obviously) was determined at the beginning of time.
Can you justify this? As far as I can tell from my physics lectures is that with our current understanding of physics (I am mainly refering to quantum related topics here ,) the scientific community is undecided on whether or not our universe is determined or not.
On the quantum level, the rules of engagement are totally alien to anything we've become accustomed to, being large as we are. Quantum phenomena can disregard our silly little expectations that, say, something can't be in multiple places at once, must continuously exist with no moments of non-existence, and can't randomly fucking teleport to a different location without existing anywhere in between.
But while quantum phenomena aren't deterministic, they do have probabilities attached to them. When you find the total probability of subatomic particles acting as expected on a larger scale (where "larger" means "larger than an atom"), the probability of a particular outcome that we'd expect to see in a deterministic universe is so insanely close to 100% that it may as well be 100%. And once you expand your view to much larger things, such as a cellular view, all hope for non-determinism had been thoroughly obliterated long ago.
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