How many 'frames' is real life?

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

Zeno's paradoxes, I think.

For each 1 meters that the tortoise goes, Hercules can go 10. The tortoise gets a 10 meter headstart. Hercules catches up with the tortoise at 10 meters, the tortoise moves to 11 meters. Hercules catches up with the tortoise at 11 meters, the tortoise moves to 11.1 meters. OH NO THE TORTOISE CAN NEVER CATCH UP.

Without CALCULUS! that is.

11.(1)

Zeno's paradox becomes really, really nasty, actually.
You see, the matter you brought up is Zeno's Paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise, just one of his paradoxes. More interesting is Zeno's Paradox of the Dichotomy of Motion.

I'll use travel as an example. Lets say you want to move from Point A to Point B. You start walking. You get 1/2 of the way there. then 1/3. then 1/4. then 1/5. then 1/6. then 1/7. then 1/8. this goes right on to 1/∞. Although in reality we can go ahead and say that 1/∞ is 0, from a theoretical standpoint it isn't, which means that in reality we never really get to point B. we get infinitely near point B, but never actually there.

This applies to everything, basically meaning that everything is impossible (it gets infinitely close to occurring, but never actually does).

Calculus seems (claims) to have done away with both of these, but there is a large section of philosophers that believe that calculus cannot sufficiently resolve these paradoxes, particularly the Dichotomy of Motion, and so they still hang over mathematical philosophy.

OR if you're at all familiar with the concept of a limit, they're not at all a problem.

[Lenny]

How fast real life is and how fast you process it are different, which is something to keep in mind. I heard that the human eye processes information at about 72 fps, though theoretically real life happens with an infinite number of frames/second.

Of course, sometimes we can process things faster, or slower - but is it happening any faster? I don't think so.

[jean-luc]

Zeno's paradoxes, I think.

For each 1 meters that the tortoise goes, Hercules can go 10. The tortoise gets a 10 meter headstart. Hercules catches up with the tortoise at 10 meters, the tortoise moves to 11 meters. Hercules catches up with the tortoise at 11 meters, the tortoise moves to 11.1 meters. OH NO THE TORTOISE CAN NEVER CATCH UP.

Without CALCULUS! that is.

11.(1)

Zeno's paradox becomes really, really nasty, actually.
You see, the matter you brought up is Zeno's Paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise, just one of his paradoxes. More interesting is Zeno's Paradox of the Dichotomy of Motion.

I'll use travel as an example. Lets say you want to move from Point A to Point B. You start walking. You get 1/2 of the way there. then 1/3. then 1/4. then 1/5. then 1/6. then 1/7. then 1/8. this goes right on to 1/∞. Although in reality we can go ahead and say that 1/∞ is 0, from a theoretical standpoint it isn't, which means that in reality we never really get to point B. we get infinitely near point B, but never actually there.

This applies to everything, basically meaning that everything is impossible (it gets infinitely close to occurring, but never actually does).

Calculus seems (claims) to have done away with both of these, but there is a large section of philosophers that believe that calculus cannot sufficiently resolve these paradoxes, particularly the Dichotomy of Motion, and so they still hang over mathematical philosophy.

OR if you're at all familiar with the concept of a limit, they're not at all a problem.

See the last paragraph. A significant group of philosophers think that Zeno's Paradox of the Dichotomy of Motion has not been resolved.

When it comes to the limits of perception, I've generally been told that frame rates above 30fps are not differentiable to humans.

[Bigblargh]

fat kids lag irl

[squibbles]

How many frames is real life?

Man...you need to play less games. really.

[smartalco]

life does not happen in frames, but the fastest the average person can actually see is roughly 30 fps

that being said, I can definitely tell a difference between 60fps and 30fps, so either I'm abnormal or scientists lie

[Atilla]

See the last paragraph. A significant group of philosophers think that Zeno's Paradox of the Dichotomy of Motion has not been resolved.

Then a significant group of philosophers have no grasp of mathematics. I suppose it's to be expected, given that philosophy is an Arts subject.

Even without calculus, if you know that Hercules will pass the turtle after ten seconds, there is a flaw in looking at the positions at 9 seconds, then 9.9 seconds and so on, and yelling "Hey! If I only look at points in time before Hercules passes the turtle, I only see points in time where Hercules hasn't passed the turtle! Paradox! Paradox!"

[Yoshimo]

See the last paragraph. A significant group of philosophers think that Zeno's Paradox of the Dichotomy of Motion has not been resolved.

Then a significant group of philosophers have no grasp of mathematics. I suppose it's to be expected, given that philosophy is an Arts subject.

Even without calculus, if you know that Hercules will pass the turtle after ten seconds, there is a flaw in looking at the positions at 9 seconds, then 9.9 seconds and so on, and yelling "Hey! If I only look at points in time before Hercules passes the turtle, I only see points in time where Hercules hasn't passed the turtle! Paradox! Paradox!"

I kind of understand all of that, but by the time the tortoise hits 12 meters, wouldn't hercules be at 20? I know the paradox involves infinatly large decimals, but still.

[Atilla]

I kind of understand all of that, but by the time the tortoise hits 12 meters, wouldn't hercules be at 20? I know the paradox involves infinatly large decimals, but still.

Yup. Like I said, that's why this paradox isn't all that convincing even without fancy mathematics - it's pretty obvious that there is a clearly-defined time when Hercules passes the tortoise, it's just that the way the paradox is framed prevents you from looking at that point in time.

[blackbelmoral]

2*10^70
fps. or however fast your brain is.

Stop that with the friggin' zeroes!

-Demonz

[Zephyr]

*waves loaded shotgun infront of face*
come ON adrenaline...start up already.

Can somebody grab a chainsaw and try to kill me?

Please?

I just want to see faster!
That sentence didnt make sense.