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[乳头的早餐谷物]

Lets say the key leaders of all the terrorist groups met in an apartment building. Would you bomb that building if it ended terrorism? or Would you not bomb it because a few innocents would die. (Assuming bombing is the only option because there was no other way to capture kill the terrorists)

I'm sure that we could arrest/take them out with spec. ops... and I already said I wouldn't use bombs at the cost of innocents unless we are at war with a country.

"Yes. Bomb it.," but bombing a city usually doesn't end the war.

As far as I can recall, we have only 'bombed' a city (or two) in one war, and both of those were in the same country, for the same war. Which instance are you using when you say that 'bombing a city usually doesn't end the war?

Is there a reason why you're putting 'bombed' in quotes and acting like the term only refers to nuclear bombs? Just in World War II, plenty of conventional bombs were dropped on civilian cities by both the Axis and the Allies.

Would I condone bombing an enemy city during wartime? If you're talking wholescale non-precision area bombing, no, never.

[Aldaric]

This time I really don't understand what I did wrong. I called him a dumb buttocks was that it? Afterward, I said why, and gave my opinions on the debate.

[SlappyMcGee]

Was the post deleted? I hate deleted posts.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

I am similarly confused. What'd he do, Demonz? Is he the Demonz?

[Aldaric]

The post in question was a block of text with little actual content and a number of different font sizes. I probably should have just edited it, but the formatting annoyed me enough that I clicked that little "x" icon instead. Basically it was big, ugly spam.

First off, it was not spam. WHY would I spam my own subject? I used two font sizes - normal and large. I made some of the important questions in large to emphasize them. It was not a big, ugly spam. At least, send me the text so I can re-post it in one font size. Answer me this Demonzlunchbox!?

[SlappyMcGee]

The post in question was a block of text with little actual content and a number of different font sizes. I probably should have just edited it, but the formatting annoyed me enough that I clicked that little "x" icon instead. Basically it was big, ugly spam.

First off, it was not spam. WHY would I spam my own subject? I used two font sizes - normal and large. I made some of the important questions in large to emphasize them. It was not a big, ugly spam. At least, send me the text so I can re-post it in one font size. Answer me this Demonzlunchbox!?

This post more than justifies DemonzLunchBreak's behavior.

[bobaganuesh_2]

Real men know that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. It comes down to this question: is any nation willing to be the lamb of the other nation and take the bombs without retaliating? In today's times, hell no. The "infringement of human rights" and "we're a role-model nation" arguments are complete garbage, yet nations go into wars anyways for retaliation. The American government didn't learn from Vietnam, so they went into Korea. The didn't learn from Korea, so they went into Iraq. And now they are mercilessly slaughtering innocent Iraqi civilians because of their "suspicion" of terrorism. What a waste of time, blood, and money, considering that Saudi Arabia was the root of the problem, not Iraq.

[Aldaric]

Real men know that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Real men know that people have two eyes. If I stab one person's eye, and he stabs one of mine, I will still have one eye to see from. More seriously, this is not about if what we did was a good thing. It was this ethical question - Would you kill a few people to save a thousand? Would you kill one to save two?

[bobaganuesh_2]

Real men know that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Real men know that people have two eyes. If I stab one person's eye, and he stabs one of mine, I will still have one eye to see from. More seriously, this is not about if what we did was a good thing. It was this ethical question - Would you kill a few people to save a thousand? Would you kill one to save two?

I don't think you quite understand the metaphor. Also, ethics is about good and bad, and they are perceived through different moral philosohpies. This is moreover an argument of utilitarianism. The ideal is not to kill anyone, but if one man can sacrifice himself to save everyone, then all power to him.

[blue_tetris]

Real men know that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Real men know that people have two eyes. If I stab one person's eye, and he stabs one of mine, I will still have one eye to see from. More seriously, this is not about if what we did was a good thing. It was this ethical question - Would you kill a few people to save a thousand? Would you kill one to save two?

I think the real question is: Would you kill 1000 people to save your 1000 people?

[Aldaric]

I don't think you quite understand the metaphor.

I was joking.

I think the real question is: Would you kill 1000 people to save your 1000 people?

I would. I think a better question is: Would you kill 500 of youy people to save a 1000 of theirs?

[jinxed_07]

I would. I think a better question is: Would you kill 500 of youy people to save a 1000 of theirs?

It depends, and can be viewed in so many ways that its pointless to try to argue over it. Not like that would stop that one person out there.

I think the real question is: Would you kill 1000 people to save your 1000 people?

In general, yes.

No, no, he was just being playful! They burned and, err... banned the book in praise!

Ah, like a sacrifice. I see now.

Sacrifice to what? :\

[otters~1]

No, no, I understood you. I was being playful. Do you honestly think that anybody could dislike Vonnegut? :P

Well, yeah, since he goes on in his autobiography about how they banned Cat's Cradle in schools all over the country and burned it ceremonially in Montana.

That said, nobody intelligent could.

No, no, he was just being playful! They burned and, err... banned the book in praise!

Ah, like a sacrifice. I see now.

[SlappyMcGee]

I don't understand the continuity of this thread.

[Aldaric]

I don't understand the continuity of this thread.

Yo tampoco. Tu puedes parar esta tema.