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NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (02:49)
by otters
Actually, guys, funny story. Me and Yanni and scythe and southpaw and gloomp and cooby all made this thing called NARC.
  • scythe bought hosting
  • southpaw organized the project
  • Cooby created the theme
  • incluye wrote the code
If testing goes well, Arachnid will let us migrate y'all over to the new setup. Right now it's in pre-beta mode. Please be nice. Contact me with bug reports (there are lots).

Re: NUMA IS CHANGING

Posted: 2011.05.12 (03:34)
by Meta Ing
When I log in and try to visit my profile, it says "that user does not exist" -- Is that because I need to do something first, that you haven't really set up the login functions for other users, or something else?

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (03:43)
by scythe
Y'know I'm honestly not sure. Every profile we thought to check seemed to work okay -- which is why this is basically a public beta.

If anyone's wondering, this is what all the "23" stuff was about -- but we realized that we were not as close to done as we thought we were shortly after starting that puzzle.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:00)
by origami_alligator
SlappyMcGee deserves a whole bunch of credit as well. Without him this project would not have been possible to get off the ground. Many thanks, Slaps!

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:03)
by remm
incluye wrote:Contact me with bug reports (there are lots).
Yeah, quite a few. The main one for me is that sometimes I cannot go to a map's page, such as this one. I have the same issue as Meta, in that my profile doesn't exist, but I imagine you already knew about them.

One you may not know about it that I submitted a comment onto da_man894's profile, and it shows the comment came from him, not from me, which is kinda odd.

There are also a few minor layout issues, with the text/tags/demos/etc not spreading far across the screen, but that's not important.

Great work guys!
Fantastic work.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:21)
by scythe
New features we've got:

Top rated by time period (x hours / days / weeks)
Collab submissions -- a map can have multiple authors
Title search
User customizable themes
Map pack submissions (not working quite yet, kind of on the back burner but WILL HAPPEN)
Comments on user profiles
Bitesizing is back!
Search goes past 1000 maps (so you can go through all of AMLT's maps, for example)
Favorite Authors
Probably some other shit I don't remember

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:28)
by unoriginal name
woooooooo I didn't really do anything

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:30)
by TheRealOne
It doesn't show who the author of the maps on the newest page are. Nor when I go to a map page. Also recent maps by this author nothing shows up.

I appreciate the hard work you guys are putting to keep our beloved NUMA. I have one question though, do you plan on making it so you can scroll forward through an authors maps instead of only backwards?

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:34)
by origami_alligator
TheRealOne wrote:It doesn't show who the author of the maps on the newest page are. Nor when I go to a map page. Also recent maps by this author nothing shows up.

I appreciate the hard work you guys are putting to keep our beloved NUMA. I have one question though, do you plan on making it so you can scroll forward through an authors maps instead of only backwards?
Our goal will always be to make this as user-friendly as possible, though in some cases we'll have to crack the whip and say, "no" to some suggestions. Half ratings are back as well, guys, and also you cannot rate 0 anymore so that is a wonderful thing!
scythe wrote:(so you can go through all of AMLT's maps, for example)
Who would want to do that? :P

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (04:35)
by Universezero
So, what's the benefits of this system over NUMA?

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (06:41)
by Pheidippides
Universezero wrote:So, what's the benefits of this system over NUMA?
The fact that people can make changes to the site. Also, what's NARC stand for?

I'm excited to see where this goes. Thanks, guys!

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (08:01)
by PALEMOON
The first thing i did was try to click on the 'featured map' and i got an error. Also, i think the layout is less than stellar. (i actually mean terrible)

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (09:18)
by origami_alligator
Universezero wrote:So, what's the benefits of this system over NUMA?
That we are not on AppEngine and so are not limited by AppEngine's limitations. Like actually being able to change how many maps you see on a page, Favourite Authors implemented directly into the site, eventually Map Pack submissions (still working out how best to do this), title searches, half-ratings (no more zero's though), a time-based Top Rated system (# of hours/days/weeks/months/years and All Time), you name it.
When we first started we asked each other what it was we liked about NUMA before its current state, we looked at the NUMA uservoice page and then took a look at what was necessary, what was possible and what we could implement after we created a functioning site. What you have before you is simply a testing ground for all of us to enjoy and try out. Once we start receiving feedback about how the site is working then we can begin to make it better and eventually equal to or better than NUMA.
Therefore we absolutely need and appreciate all of your help.
Pheidippides wrote:Also, what's NARC stand for?

I'm excited to see where this goes. Thanks, guys!
NARC stands for N Archive.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (10:55)
by otters
TheRealOne wrote:It doesn't show who the author of the maps on the newest page are. Nor when I go to a map page. Also recent maps by this author nothing shows up.
romaniac wrote:The main one for me is that sometimes I cannot go to a map's page, such as this one.
These are a result of an issue with the multiple author submission where the other authors are not correctly added to the map. They technically aren't supposed to exist but I'll log in and delete them in a bit but I don't have time now.

With user does not exist errors, try logging in (with NUMA credentials) first, and then visit your own profile and see what happens.


I apologize for all this sucking so much, guys, but I'm already stretching Rails sort of far as it is. I actually had to semi-break the authorization plugin we are using to get existing users to show up, and the testing has been somewhat subpar due to my own laziness. Now that it's public we'll get more done, though, so thank you all for participation.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (13:02)
by aids
Suggestions (will be changing regularly):
  • Bitesized / Top Rated / Featured Maps / Favorite Authors / Active Authors: Might look better on the left-hand side.
  • Some interesting chart ideas for profiles: a timeline for maps submitted vs. total ratings.
  • Map counts on profiles should include delisted maps, and the author should have the option to make his favorites private.
  • Commenting on profiles is a must. Possibly even having a mini-mibbit chatbox on the profile.
  • Adding your own tags to maps which aren't yours. The ability to have private tags (only works if you're the first person to use the tag).
  • Would it be possible to have sub-pages for authors, e.g. users/Aidiera/favorites or users/Aidiera/maps ?
  • An auto-copy option for map data is a must. And the choice between plain map data and properly formatted data.
  • Clicking an eye icon would signify that you were 'watching' a map (instead of faving it and coming back to it later). Or being able to 'watch' a tag.
  • Instead of hovering over a thumbnail to enlarge it, you would click it.
  • Deleting your own comments and comments on your maps. Possibly even wiping the ratings.
  • Ability to favorite an author from a map page.
  • A list of an author's most common tags, tag-cloud style.
  • Being able to choose the maps which show up on your profile. Listing mappacks on your profile. Being able to download the mappack.
  • Mappacks show up in your map listings, same as regular maps except viewable as a group (maybe through a tag, e.g. mappack:solitude).
  • Browse your own top-rated/top-commented maps.
  • While submitting maps, you should be able to add an author similarly to how you add a tag.
  • Compare favorites with another author, or several.
  • A better way to keep track of new ratings you get.
  • USERLEVEL SUPPORT
Comments:
  • The favorite authors setup is incredibly brilliant.
  • I don't think comment titles are working properly.
  • While browsing an author's maps, the map data is viewable. Is this supposed to happen?
For what it's worth, the NUMA I was going to wanted to make was going to have 8tracks' tag set up and possibly it's main layout, Last.fm's stats page (and something like this for tags), and possibly something like Facebook's newfeed.

EDIT:
1211 wrote:I think it is a good idea to see who favorited your map , and/or the ability to send private messages.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (14:16)
by Pheidippides
incluye wrote:With user does not exist errors, try logging in (with NUMA credentials) first, and then visit your own profile and see what happens.
I logged in and still got a user-does-not-exist error on my profile page. Although one of my maps is in the Featured section. o,O?

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (15:29)
by scythe
Instead of hovering over a thumbnail to enlarge it, you would click it.
I'll put this in the notes.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (17:41)
by Apakenua
Logged in.
Sub'd a map - It didn't show up. :/
Profile - It says I don't exist.. I'm logged in. .__.
Anyhow, it's great. If you need help I'm here.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (18:20)
by beethoveN
Woohoo, glad to see that this is finally completed.
Hopefully it will solve problems that people had with nmaps.net.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.12 (21:08)
by trance
I think it is a good idea to see who favorited your map , and/or the ability to send private messages.

Anyways great work guys.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.13 (03:51)
by otters~1
It's been temporarily unavailable all night. I am curious. :(

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.14 (12:21)
by Chase
Interesting...

Good work you guys, you've done well.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.14 (17:59)
by Pheidippides
I can log in and see my profile. Neat-o! Keep it up, dudes.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.14 (18:10)
by otters
Whenever a "temporarily unavailable" message is up, that probably means I'm doing maintenance. It was temporary for 36 hours because I was reindexing the entire map and user databases, which is generally done piecewise when users or maps are edited; I figured a full index is what was necessary to fix the user problem, which it was.

There already is a messaging system with popup notifications, but it needs more testing (surprisingly) before I put it up.

Re: NARC

Posted: 2011.05.14 (18:18)
by Donfuy
Image

1 - the box should be aligned with the rest, width wise. the design looks very fragmented as it is now.
2 - more alignment problems
3 - I'm not sure about these icons. They seem to crash with the whole theme, color-wise, since they're pretty much the only red element in the whole site. Also, although I don't have a proper solution for this for now, the tags organization is horrible - looks like they are just thrown there, with no proper square around them - also the distinction between the tags and the author's name (which I think should be more evident) is almost non existing.
4 - augh it looks so awful. I'm not comfortable with the fact it'll grow with the number and size of the tags.

Image
about the whole theme, I've noticed that resizing the window to a thinner aspect ratio breaks everything. this would be fixed by setting a minimum width to the elements wrapping (holy shit screwed up phrase tell me if you don't understand it)

1 - it kind of looks like an afterthought, and since the login has it's own page, it would make sense for it to be in the big grey bar - unless you have plans to make the login a dropdown menu (which would be cool)
2 - i know what you're trying to do here, but somehow it isn't working, at least for me. and i've seen many websites where it works.
3 - maybe im being too picky, but i think it would look better if it was...black
4 - when you hover your mouse over this the black text glows - yeah it looks cool...but doesn't fit on the overall theme.


Okay this is all I've got till now. If you don't understand something, tell me. Also, this is just my opinion. You can and will disagree in some bits.