The Great Highscore Archive

[ska]

All the one I started collecting automatically in 2015. The rest can be found in this thread: http://forum.droni.es/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10211

I downloaded and backed it up on my Dropbox and Box account for extra redundancy.

Thanks for doing that. Would it be possible to see, say, the last 10 0ths to be taken (including dates)? I'm just curious. I'd also be interested in seeing some kind of chart (similar to Hendor and Seifer's) that tracks highscore activity over time. (how many new 0ths in a given day, week, and month, etc.)

Edit: Zapkt, do you think you can combine and organise the two archives to merge with Eddy's previous compilation?

[zapkt]

All the one I started collecting automatically in 2015. The rest can be found in this thread: http://forum.droni.es/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10211

I downloaded and backed it up on my Dropbox and Box account for extra redundancy.

Huh, it seems I ended up uploading the wrong file, you don't need to keep this (see below).

Thanks for doing that. Would it be possible to see, say, the last 10 0ths to be taken (including dates)? I'm just curious.

Done: http://ploudseeker.com:5000/latest0th
As you can see it's pretty inactive nowadays.

I'd also be interested in seeing some kind of chart (similar to Hendor and Seifer's) that tracks highscore activity over time. (how many new 0ths in a given day, week, and month, etc.)

That would be highly inaccurate as the number of files we have per year vary wildly. We would miss plenty of "temporary" scores.

Edit: Zapkt, do you think you can combine and organise the two archives to merge with Eddy's previous compilation?

Done, on the appropriate topic: http://forum.droni.es/viewtopic.php?f=2 ... 79#p176979

[Raif]

I spotted a cheater which had been missed: CagedSparrow on 5-2.

[zapkt]

I spotted a cheater which had been missed: CagedSparrow on 5-2.

Thanks, removed

[zapkt]

Hi all,

The archive website has been down for a few months now. It's a bit of work to debug why the application crashes and update the code to run on modern software versions. I'm not sure there's any point to work on this if it is barely used. Please leave a message here if you want this back.

[EddyMataGallos]

I tried to access it recently to update my collection of highscore files, since I last updated it in mid-2017. However, you're absolutely right in that the activity is so low now that it's probably not worth it to go through the trouble of revising the code. If you still keep the files, could you zip them and upload them? I can see the last pack you published is from 2018 (https://ploudseeker.com/files/docs/2018 ... s_files.7z).

[zapkt]

Sure, here are the latest files: https://ploudseeker.com/files/docs/2020 ... s_files.7z

I ended up trying to put it back online all day, but I think it's really not working because of a bug in one of the libraries I'm using. I'm planning to move this server to a new machine soon, so I'll see if more recent software versions fix the bug by then. Anyway, at least now it's working with python3.

I see that highscores are actually not completely dead! It seems the lockdown has inspired some people.

[ska]

Sure, here are the latest files: https://ploudseeker.com/files/docs/2020 ... s_files.7z

I ended up trying to put it back online all day, but I think it's really not working because of a bug in one of the libraries I'm using. I'm planning to move this server to a new machine soon, so I'll see if more recent software versions fix the bug by then. Anyway, at least now it's working with python3.

I see that highscores are actually not completely dead! It seems the lockdown has inspired some people.

A lockdown, you say?

[EddyMataGallos]

Thanks zapkt, downloaded ;) Also yeah, as can be inferred from ska's post, he organized a highscoring contest across different versions of N, valuing N highscores the most, and this brought some activity back to N.

[ska]

Thanks zapkt, downloaded ;) Also yeah, as can be inferred from ska's post, he organized a highscoring contest across different versions of N, valuing N highscores the most, and this brought some activity back to N.

1.4, to be specific. lol

[zapkt]

I received my new machine. The Great Highscore Archive is back online, faster than before!
http://ploudseeker.com:5000/latest0th

[zapkt]

New link because I just activated SSL: https://ploudseeker.com:5000 (I wish I could edit my post but the forum is so buggy)

[zapkt]

Some more updates. I had time to spend today, so I:
- made cosmetic changes to make the application prettier
- fixed some bugs that made the app randomly crash
- added 2 graphs about top players getting new 0th/top-20 scores each year. Have a look! https://ploudseeker.com:5000/stats

If you have ideas about cool new graphs/tables I could add, feel free to suggest them!

Edit: Oops, I accidentally added hackers back, the app is down again for a few hours so I can remove them OK now

[ska]

This is glorious. Well done.

What's particularly interesting is that there hasn't been this much activity for top-20s since 2016 (and 0ths since 2015!)—and the year's only two-thirds done!

[EddyMataGallos]

Nice! Thanks so much for the effort and for putting it back online.

I wish we had done the same for N++, it's been out for 4 years already and even though we've had a highscoring bot from the beginning, we've not been storing daily snapshots of the scores. I started working on this almost as soon as the game was released, but I left after a few months and when I returned there was already a Discord bot taking care of NHigh's functionalities, but without the snapshot features, so I kept delaying this idea. I may still do it at some point even though we've "lost" 4 years of history.

[zapkt]

when I returned there was already a Discord bot taking care of NHigh's functionalities, but without the snapshot features, so I kept delaying this idea. I may still do it at some point even though we've "lost" 4 years of history.

But isn't the bot storing scores in some kind of file or database? From then on, saving this file on a daily basis is very few work

[ska]

when I returned there was already a Discord bot taking care of NHigh's functionalities, but without the snapshot features, so I kept delaying this idea. I may still do it at some point even though we've "lost" 4 years of history.

But isn't the bot storing scores in some kind of file or database? From then on, saving this file on a daily basis is very few work

To expound on this point, can't you just go through the archive using a data-harvesting bot?

[EddyMataGallos]

In response to zapkt, yeah it is pretty simple to do, specially if you just make a daily copy of the db, although that's very suboptimal because the db is much bigger, containing other things like userlevels and ranking histories (which is the only thing that's been saved for "history archival"). That's why I want to implement a more efficient method, probably by creating a differential table on the db. It's not hard, I just have so many projects at hand :P

In response to ska, I'm not sure what "archive" you mean, that's precisely what we've not been saving all this time. The database only holds the most recent scores for each board, which is updated daily. The only bit of history that has been saved is the rankings themselves, which is something.

[ska]

In response to zapkt, yeah it is pretty simple to do, specially if you just make a daily copy of the db, although that's very suboptimal because the db is much bigger, containing other things like userlevels and ranking histories (which is the only thing that's been saved for "history archival"). That's why I want to implement a more efficient method, probably by creating a differential table on the db. It's not hard, I just have so many projects at hand :P

In response to ska, I'm not sure what "archive" you mean, that's precisely what we've not been saving all this time. The database only holds the most recent scores for each board, which is updated daily. The only bit of history that has been saved is the rankings themselves, which is something.

Oh, so it's just the scores and not the demo data itself? That's unfortunate.

[ska]

I wonder what has changed in the last 7 years or so.