Tool-Assisted Highscores/Speedruns

[Raif]

00-3 Speedrun, 1 frame faster than Kool (innov by van)
16-0 Highscore, 1.125 faster than Eddy
23-4 Highscore, 5.675 faster than Eddy
84-1 Highscore, 3.950 faster than Eddy (top route by mfb)

My stats
Seconds gained over legit runs : 250.150
Frames gained over legit runs: 10,006
Average seconds gained per demo: 1.954
Average frames gained per demo: 78.172

[EddyMataGallos]

Nice demos as usual =) Congratulations on that 10k achievement, that's a great feat ;)

[trance]

Awesome 23-4 demo Raif! Grats on 10k as well.

[vankusss]

Both 84-1 and 23-4 are absolutely stunning, well done!
10k frames, wow, congrats

[ska]

Amazing work once again, Raif. Thanks for the awesomeness.

[DJ_M]

84-1 made me jizz in my pants.

[aids]

84-1 made me jizz in my pants.

I didn't realize the first jump was possible. I thought you had to be going right to get it. Amazing.

[Unreality]

23-4... awesome thwump pushes are expected :(

84-1 super nice

[mfb]

Amazing work at 84-1. And the first jump is fantastic (~1.1s?).
To beat the highscore, it is not necessary to be quicker than the last drone, one drone later would be ~2s slower. Maybe that is possible for humans :).

[ska]

6-1: standard highscores route.
0.225 faster than Bonzai, 0.250 faster than Van. FBF. At least 0.1 more can be saved; see "Killock's Method".
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Standard Route: 166 frames
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"Killock's Method": 162 frames.
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It should be noted that these demos have not necessarily been maxed and are for comparison purposes only.

I'd love to see Raif take this to 107.5 and beyond!

[mfb]

I played around with the frames of your demo - it should be possible to jump to the exit without landing in between, but even like that an earlier jump can give at least one frame.

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[TheRealOne]

148 Frames - Low Jump Route
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Come on guys think out side the box...

[TheRealOne]

68-1: http://pastebin.com/PuWBjfgu

A New route?


Also I figured I would post this. Just something funny I noticed. This happened to be the case at 6pm EST on 02/22/12

Number of Non-Legit Scores - 149
Number of Seconds Gained Over Legit Runs - 250.000
Average Seconds Gained per demo - 1.678
Number of Frames Gained over Legit Runs - 10000
Average Frames Gained Per Demo - 67.114

[EddyMataGallos]

Hadn't that been already achieved?

00-3 Speedrun, 1 frame faster than Kool (innov by van)
16-0 Highscore, 1.125 faster than Eddy
23-4 Highscore, 5.675 faster than Eddy
84-1 Highscore, 3.950 faster than Eddy (top route by mfb)

My stats
Seconds gained over legit runs : 250.150
Frames gained over legit runs: 10,006
Average seconds gained per demo: 1.954
Average frames gained per demo: 78.172

[Raif]

What TRO is talking about is the total of all cheated runs (including mine, underclock and FBF), which happened to be at an exact 10k frames today.
Meanwhile I have been knocked down from 10,000+ frames to about 9,750 thanks to Kool and Eddy.

68-1: http://pastebin.com/PuWBjfgu

A New route?

Yeah that does look faster. There must be a faster route for the bottom as well, with all those bbs.

[golf]

Take a look at my run there, I have a slightly different route for the bb's. Puts me quite a bit ahead of Lim, but I'm not quick enough (or smart enough to see) another route through the drones at the switch.

[EddyMataGallos]

Oh right :D

[ska]

Firstly, golf, that's cool. Secondly, Raif, why no u CJ on 56-2 on the top-left of the octagon in your MBD?

[Raif]

Secondly, Raif, why no u CJ on 56-2 on the top-left of the octagon in your MBD?

I can't remember it was too long ago; I might have had a reason or just might have missed it.

And DemosAM! Nothing special, just a couple of short demos. (Hopefully DemosAN will be better :D)

02-2 Highscore, 0.100 faster than my old MBD, 0.250 faster than Goo
09-3 Highscore, 0.500 faster than kryX
29-0 Highscore, 0.025 faster than my old MBD, 0.050 faster than my realtime run
63-4 Highscore, 0.025 faster than my realtime run

[L-A-T]

would it be possible to use a bbcj on 29-0 on the 2nd bb?

[Raif]

would it be possible to use a bbcj on 29-0 on the 2nd bb?

Technically yes. But the thing with bbcjs is that they don't give you much vertical height; only horizontal speed. So with a bbcj even if you reach the wall faster, you start falling much later so it ends up slower than just doing a jump on the top of the bb.

[L-A-T]

oh ok that makes since anyways awesome demos i need to go back cause theres still alot of them i havent seen yet. congrats on 10k btw

[Raif]

oh ok that makes since anyways awesome demos i need to go back cause theres still alot of them i havent seen yet. congrats on 10k btw

Thanks. But I have fallen below 10k again sometime back due to "Kody", as van puts it.
Btw, you can also find all my runs in the same place in this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=J3amFUHG
:D

Edit: Oh and since you were away at the time, have you seen M&R's beta of Nv2.0? http://harveycartel.org/metanet/n/data1 ... final.html
The contest is over but you can still play the levels.

[darkshadow]

I'm going to post this here since, even if it is theoretically possible, it is humanly impossible (please, prove me wrong).

I started FbFing 92-4 to see whether it is possible to slip by the drone on the right and found that I could get extremely close to doing it. However, I didn't take the time to make sure the center part of the run was as fast as possible (I just took my best real time run and built off it). I'm wondering if anyone can figure out whether this is doable or not.

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[Raif]

I'm going to post this here since, even if it is theoretically possible, it is humanly impossible (please, prove me wrong).

I started FbFing 92-4 to see whether it is possible to slip by the drone on the right and found that I could get extremely close to doing it. However, I didn't take the time to make sure the center part of the run was as fast as possible (I just took my best real time run and built off it). I'm wondering if anyone can figure out whether this is doable or not.

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It's doable but doesn't help.
Edit:
Here's a demo:
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Unless you can beat one of the other drone as well it's pretty much useless.