Metanet 0ths Thread

[ska]

Taken 45-4 and 87-2. Both pretty sloppy runs, but I think this puts me ahead of Kool in the 0ths rankings until they get retaken. (I've sort of lost count, its been a while since we had an update).

Nice change-ups on both maps. I have to wonder about 45-4, though; do you think it's possible to get that left gold couplet before the right couplet?

I found they were pretty similar when I tested it, although its slightly faster if you get a perfect fall and can reach the left edge to wall jump.
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Oh yeah, getting rid of the random beginning, well done jp :D

That annoying start was the only reason I bothered looking for a different route :p

Yeah, I can see why you'd elect to secure a run, rather than risk it all to save a few frames.

[EddyMataGallos]

Yeah well, that comparison is a bit biased, because you did the fast route kinda meh, and specially you did the slow route very well, not what you'd tipically get in practice. What you did is just as hard as the fast route because you still performed the slide at the exact right time (you didn't release the left key while falling, indicating perfect timing).

This would be the usual time at best, and its kinda clean already (I'd say you'd get times in the low 170's regularly):

167f
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This is with perfect slide as you showed (with your approach it was even faster):

158f
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Quite a difference. You also did the beginning faster with the slow route. This altogether made it seem as if the fast route doesn't clean that much. This is a clean fast route:

144f
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14f faster than a clean slow route (same difficulty or slightly easier), and ~25f faster (23 in this particular case) than an average slow route (much less difficulty). Seems more worthwhile now huh?

[ska]

Yeah well, that comparison is a bit biased, because you did the fast route kinda meh, and specially you did the slow route very well, not what you'd tipically get in practice. What you did is just as hard as the fast route because you still performed the slide at the exact right time (you didn't release the left key while falling, indicating perfect timing).

This would be the usual time at best, and its kinda clean already (I'd say you'd get times in the low 170's regularly):

167f
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This is with perfect slide as you showed (with your approach it was even faster):

158f
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Quite a difference. You also did the beginning faster with the slow route. This altogether made it seem as if the fast route doesn't clean that much. This is a clean fast route:

144f
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14f faster than a clean slow route (same difficulty or slightly easier), and ~25f faster (23 in this particular case) than an average slow route (much less difficulty). Seems more worthwhile now huh?

I did notice that discrepancy with demo mode, although I figured it had something to do with slowing down to not overshoot. I'm sensing a new Eddy 0th!

[EddyMataGallos]

I wish man, I'm finishing exams the 15th, and I'm leaving on vacation the 16th till the 31st, so no activity till August.
I didn't pull out of BLUR because I assumed I'll be here by the time the next round starts :P (Q: If it does though, the players who won this first final round won't have to play right? If so I might still have a chance, depending on the results).

[ska]

I wish man, I'm finishing exams the 15th, and I'm leaving on vacation the 16th till the 31st, so no activity till August.
I didn't pull out of BLUR because I assumed I'll be here by the time the next round starts :P (Q: If it does though, the players who won this first final round won't have to play right? If so I might still have a chance, depending on the results).

Well, I was planning on finishing it tomorrow... so... assuming you won (for argument's sake), you'll still have 3 days to lay down a killer run.

[EddyMataGallos]

Oh, I thought those classified in the Top4 had the possibility to skip the next round (Semi finals):

[ska]

Oh, I thought those classified in the Top4 had the possibility to skip the next round (Semi finals):

Yes, and I was giving you the presumption that you did make it on top, but who knows!

[ska]

Do you understand what I'm saying?

[EddyMataGallos]

Honestly, no xD Because this, leads to confusion:

assuming you won (for argument's sake), you'll still have 3 days to lay down a killer run.

Premise 1: Winners get to skip next week.
Premise 2: Assuming you won, you still have 3 days (13th to 16th July I guess) to submit a run.

Deduction: Winners have to submit a run next week, which would start the 13th (today). This is contradictory.

In order to construct premise 2 I used both the fact that you said you'd finish the round today, day 13th, and that you knew I was leaving the 16th.

Unless, of course, with those 3 days you meant 31st to 3rd August, referring to the end of not the following round but the one after that, in which case it would make sense, although its weird that you'd know exactly the day the next round will finish seeing as both rounds and intermediate periods tend to vary in length depending on many real life factors.

[ska]

Unless, of course, with those 3 days you meant 31st to 3rd August, referring to the end of not the following round but the one after that, in which case it would make sense, although its weird that you'd know exactly the day the next round will finish seeing as both rounds and intermediate periods tend to vary in length depending on many real life factors.

Bingo. Your powers of deduction are almost as impressive as your powers of seduction.

P.S. I am aware that my rationale was nebulous to say the least; for that I assume 100% responsibility. I was also pretty inebriated when I wrote that, so I'm just amazed it made any sense at all.

[macrohenry]

Retook 45-4. I had trouble pulling off jp's route for the middle so I just reversed it, even though jp's is probably faster when cleaned.
Btw, I'll be away until 26th but I'll still check out the forums occasionally.

[jp27ace]

Retook 45-4. I had trouble pulling off jp's route for the middle so I just reversed it, even though jp's is probably faster when cleaned.
Btw, I'll be away until 26th but I'll still check out the forums occasionally.

Nice run, I agree I think the clockwise route is slightly easier but slightly slower.

Taken 06-3 and 19-1, both by grabbing extra gold. This puts swipenet down to a single 0th.
With some eddy/macro level cleaning, you can probably get the gold above the exit on 06-3 and still beat the drone.

Edit: I got the extra gold.

[golf]

Nicely done jp. I've always felt there had to be a way to open all the doors on 6-3, but my route finding skills just aren't that good. Its nice to see action in this thread again :)

[macrohenry]

Found some time and took 06-3. Fantastic new route, jp. :) Also, the community is getting closer and closer to 72.2k!

[ska]

Found some time and took 06-3. Fantastic new route, jp. :) Also, the community is getting closer and closer to 72.2k!

Wow... your run just goes to show how clean jp's start was.

[macrohenry]

Took 19-1 as well. Sorry, jp. ó.ò Who is going to attack 02-1?

[golf]

Took 19-1 as well. Sorry, jp. ó.ò Who is going to attack 02-1?

Amazing close calls with the laser there, macro!

[EddyMataGallos]

Woah nice new routes/innovs jp, and well cleaned macro, 19-1 is astounding.
jp care to let me know your pre-AGD score in 6-3?

Took Ep10 with level 0th in -0, -1, -3 and -4.

[jp27ace]

Woah nice new routes/innovs jp, and well cleaned macro, 19-1 is astounding.
jp care to let me know your pre-AGD score in 6-3?

Took Ep10 with level 0th in -0, -1, -3 and -4.

Nooo my longest standing Metanet 0th. Very nice runs, I might take another shot at 10-4 later.
My previous score on 6-3 was 133.850 (and it's still not quite an AGD, I can't imagine any way its worth getting that last gold though).

[EddyMataGallos]

Thanks man, annotated ;) There's definitely quite a bit of time left, if you ghost our runs I lost some precious time on the final ladder, but I hate that part, too precise :P

Swiped 2-1, swiped swip out of the 0th boards. And ownage on Ep02 :D

[jp27ace]

Thanks man, annotated ;) There's definitely quite a bit of time left, if you ghost our runs I lost some precious time on the final ladder, but I hate that part, too precise :P

Swiped 2-1, swiped swip out of the 0th boards. And ownage on Ep02 :D

Very nice! Retaken 10-4, I can't believe how clean my ending was before.

[golf]

Woah nice new routes/innovs jp, and well cleaned macro, 19-1 is astounding.
jp care to let me know your pre-AGD score in 6-3?

Took Ep10 with level 0th in -0, -1, -3 and -4.

Nice to have you back Eddy :P

[EddyMataGallos]

Glad to be back, and props for the TLS achievement ;)

[golf]

Thanks :) Next stop: 71.3k

[EddyMataGallos]

Took 00-1 and 00-3 with sloppy ending. Missed several +.200 runs in -3 by like a pixel off the final gold piece :S