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Curious about something, could someone tell me how many MBDs has been beaten in real time and list which ones? Note, that if there are several MBDs of the same run improving the previous one, must have been beaten the faster one.
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There are quite a few places where it can be improved, but this took long enough already.
One notable innovation is at the 3 horizontal gold in the top middle, which can be grabbed in a single jump. I'm pretty sure this is simple enough to include in a real-time run.
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Astonishing!alsojp27ace wrote:95-2 Highscore, 9.7 seconds faster than Macro's current 0th.
There are quite a few places where it can be improved, but this took long enough already.
One notable innovation is at the 3 horizontal gold in the top middle, which can be grabbed in a single jump. I'm pretty sure this is simple enough to include in a real-time run.
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I can't decide whether the run or the route is more impressive.
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I have a hopefully simple question if anyone knows the answer, is there any difference between pressing both left/right at the same time and pressing nothing?
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I would be pumped to see more run out of you jp. Your innovations are top notch.alsojp27ace wrote:Thanks guys, I'm tempted to start doing some more MBDs, as I've always enjoyed innovating runs more than trying to execute them (especially when Eddy/Macro retake it within a day :p)
I have a hopefully simple question if anyone knows the answer, is there any difference between pressing both left/right at the same time and pressing nothing?
As for LR frame I believe they have a different hexcode than N frames, but they are treated the same by the engine. I am not sure if you know this trick already, but one thing you can do while MDBing is doing JJJJJ sequences when approaching a subsequent jump (usually a CJ) in the air. This you can't do in normal game play, but if you write that in the code the game will not treat it like JHHHH, but it will actually try and jump on each frame so that makes it easier to get tough CJs and such with out testing every frame.
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I don't know if there's a real difference, but doing LR instead of letting go is more accurate in play (from experience, anyway). :P
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I'd say that's just for human players, it's more comfortable to press the opposite direction rather than releasing, but I don't think it has any effect on the actual game._danielr_ wrote:Sick run, JP! :)
I don't know if there's a real difference, but doing LR instead of letting go is more accurate in play (from experience, anyway). :P
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• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
• 0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
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• 0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
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{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.
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• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
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• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
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• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
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• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
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ska wrote:Since we've been doing all this fact-finding stuff lately, I'd like to see an updated excel spreadsheet that contains these things (at least), since I remember there used to be one years and years ago, but, if it exists, is obviously severely outdated: a column with the current legitimate 0th score holder and its corresponding score and demo data (not all has to be visible, obviously; perhaps some collapsible mechanism. For consistency's sake, let's only put 0ths in the legit column if they were taken on NReality, even if they were legitimately taken using 1.4. Then we can do the same for "Non-NReality scores". This would include all FBF runs, MBDs, 1.4-only 0ths, 0ths in speedrun mode but not in highscores mode (mostly for levels with no gold where the scores are unaffected by off-route gold), runs with modified endings (credit to be shared in this case), and all other demos that fall into this category. I'd also like a column that automatically works out the difference between column A and B, and a grand total of difference at the end, including total level score for both columns. If column B has no faster non-NReality score, then it is automatically cloned with blue text containing column A's data. Non-NReality highscores will be marked red for easy identification. Can we make this happen? It will involve scouring the forums for various FBF runs. I'd also like to open this thread to the submission of FBF runs as well as MBD runs.
I maintained this exact sheet for several years when I was consistently doing the Highscore Rankings. Raif did quite a bit of work keeping the non-legit/MBD/Speedrunmode/underclock section up to date. Though I haven't touch it since March of 2013. I doubt Raif has either, so it is quite out of date. The only difference from this to what you are describing is that any of the 0ths taken on 1.4 that were including in the highscore raknings are in the legit section. So those would have to be peeled out if you want to move them to the non-legit column.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkgifm4ji1f0f ... %20.xlsx?m
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Ah. All of those demos live in different places.ska wrote:Cheers. Ideally, I'd like to have at least all the non-NReality runs stored as demos within each cell; however, I'm not sure if excel imposes a limit on per cell text.
All of the v1.4 0ths should be on NReality just as "." 0ths because I manually uploaded them in the database years ago.
All of the cheated 0ths that Raif never bettered exist on the Metanet highscore boards still.
All of Raif's MBDs and everyone else's FBF/MBDs were compiled by Eddy a few months ago and I edited the link to that in to the first post of this thread.
All of the Underclock and Speedrun Mode 0ths live on the NReality Servers as well.
I believe that Excel can hold 32k characters in a cell as long as it does not contain a function. If it has a function I think it is limited to only 1024.
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Whoops, seems I missed it. Updated the list: http://pastebin.com/ss4jHyeaalsojp27ace wrote:Edited the end of Raif's 94-2 mbd to save a frame by falling into the slope. Its not much but every little helps in a frame war level. (If only I could find one in 59-0 :p)
I also noticed my 94-0 isn't on Eddy's master list:
I modified your 94-0 ending though, you forgot to press right at the end, hence losing a frame since the door is far apart of the wall (its faster to touch the center of the door). I gained a frame:
This is quite a random map, I mean, you could shave more if the thwump gave you less height, but how to get that?
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Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.
Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
• 0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
• 0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
• 1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
• 0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
• 0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
• 0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
• 0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
• 0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)
{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.
Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score
Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12
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It would be a combination of a few things. You would have to get a little less speed since you have some extra that Kool doesn't have because of the CK innovation. Then you would also have to mess around with the height at which you jump off the thwump because of the aforementioned less speed.alsojp27ace wrote:Thanks, I remember at the time someone mentioned the ending thwump kick could be better, but as I'm not sure how to go about that I never bothered.
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btw Eddy you have the wrong 11-2 in your paste:
Checking to see if any others are missing/not updated
Edit:
10-0 hs
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Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.
Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
• 0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
• 0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
• 1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
• 0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
• 0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
• 0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
• 0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
• 0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
• 0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)
{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.
Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score
Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12
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That was insane in the membrane.alsojp27ace wrote:38-4: 151.375ska wrote:I, for one, would like to see JP (or anyone else, for that matter) make more MBDs.
6.475 seconds faster than the current 0th:
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Whoa! Them corner jumps... The swift sequence on the middle right towards the end of the run where you pull of a CJ > RCJ > CJ > CJ is awesome and beautifully choreographed. Great route and execution.ska wrote:That was insane in the membrane.alsojp27ace wrote:38-4: 151.375ska wrote:I, for one, would like to see JP (or anyone else, for that matter) make more MBDs.
6.475 seconds faster than the current 0th:
Edit: 95-4, Sticking this here so I don't lose it on my HDD. I was attempting to think up a real time method for skipping waiting for the drone at the start. This works, but is way too hard for real time.
<@gloomp> Holy sweet, balls run.
<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
<@Kool> bro no joke, I saw the sexiest swedish chick giving herself anal on one of those pop-up alarm-clocks at my uncle's house
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