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Postby ska » 2010.06.10 (08:57)

In the build up to the Best Of N 2 video, I've compiled an ordered Top-20 list in what I believe are the most influential N players of the past 6 years. I tried to choose a lot of older players who were dominant during their most active period as well as players who had a long and consistent career. It was quite tough and in the end I excluded some notable players such as sammage, Izzy, glib_jase, toad, Dan_K, cyberjuda, Kaellstar, Afterthought etc. and excluded players who have either admitted to cheating or are suspected of cheating. It's also essential to note that this chart was compiled in July 2010, and as such has some glaring omissions, e.g. EddyMataGallos. Various inductees have been made throughout the thread (although aren't ordered in any way). Without further ado: I present to you, my personal list of the most influential N players of all time.

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Postby Seneschal » 2010.06.10 (10:03)

ska wrote:excluded players who have either admitted to cheating or are suspected of cheating
I don't know; even though they were cheaters, I think you could make a case for them being very influential players, despite not actually being as skilled as they appear.

Also I think you should clarify what you mean by players, exactly: do you mean highscorers, or would you include prolific speedrunners, like kryX and Kool as well? Also people like moh and TRO have been very influential in contributing so many innovations to the game, so it seems unfair to exclude them if your list comprises all players.

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Postby ska » 2010.06.10 (10:13)

Seneschal wrote:
ska wrote:excluded players who have either admitted to cheating or are suspected of cheating
I don't know; even though they were cheaters, I think you could make a case for them being very influential players, despite not actually being as skilled as they appear.

Also I think you should clarify what you mean by players, exactly: do you mean highscorers, or would you include prolific speedrunners, like kryX and Kool as well? Also people like moh and TRO have been very influential in contributing so many innovations to the game, so it seems unfair to exclude them if your list comprises all players.
Yes. I know about these guys, especially moh. I'm quite aware of his innovations and TAS runs but I wanted this list to specifically comprise of highscorers who specifically influenced me as a (legitimate) player/highscorer.

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Postby EddyMataGallos » 2010.06.10 (12:52)

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Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

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• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

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• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12

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Postby vankusss » 2010.06.10 (22:01)

i'm honoured :) will try to move up somehow :D (how?)
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Postby Izzy » 2010.06.10 (22:32)

ska wrote:sammage, Izzy, glib_jase, toad, Dan_K, cyberjuda
I took Toad's last 0th (59-1). :P

I actually think that zj and TFK deserve to be on that list. And probably macrohenry. I'm glad to see you have melchoir though.
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Postby TheRealOne » 2010.06.10 (22:37)

ska wrote:
Seneschal wrote:
ska wrote:excluded players who have either admitted to cheating or are suspected of cheating
I don't know; even though they were cheaters, I think you could make a case for them being very influential players, despite not actually being as skilled as they appear.

Also I think you should clarify what you mean by players, exactly: do you mean highscorers, or would you include prolific speedrunners, like kryX and Kool as well? Also people like moh and TRO have been very influential in contributing so many innovations to the game, so it seems unfair to exclude them if your list comprises all players.
Yes. I know about these guys, especially moh. I'm quite aware of his innovations and TAS runs but I wanted this list to specifically comprise of highscorers who specifically influenced me as a (legitimate) player/highscorer.
I am honored that you think I should be up there Cheese, especially considering I only have 3 metanet top 20s rofl. I would say that I have been more influential about the confines of the physics engine and possibly some routes, but I like the list so far, I personally think kryX should be up there because even though he cheated his runs were quite influential in showing people that could be done. Moh has done this to the extreme extent showing people that can be done when human error comes out of the equation. But I understand your rules as to why people are up there, and I quite like the list.
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Postby rocket_thumped » 2010.06.10 (22:47)

tktktk should be higher.

Johnny_Faneca was an admitted cheater.
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Postby T3chno » 2010.06.10 (22:55)

rocket_thumped wrote:tktktk should be higher.
I agree with this. Top 5 at least.
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Postby eru_bahagon » 2010.06.10 (22:56)

Happy to see that i'm on your list and top 10, wow^^


JF admitted to have cheated 89-0. (to try key mapping but i'm not sure)
And well, it wasn't a 0th.

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jf, july 12 2006 wrote:Just to clarify, I have 2 cheated runs although they are not 0ths, I wouldn't do it, I swear.
They are 89-0 and 87-0. I didn't want to submit them but I did it when submiting my other episode runs.
These were like test runs. I wouldn't risk to ruin my reputation because of cheating ( what reputation?).

pokemaniac: you know 2 people that cheat. I know a lot more, trust me.
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Postby TheRealOne » 2010.06.10 (23:01)

rocket_thumped wrote:tktktk should be higher.

Johnny_Faneca was an admitted cheater.
Yeah JF did do two cheated runs on 89-0 and one other can't remember ^^, and I know it is kind of hypocritical to keep him in the rankings, and ignore others like L3X who had both cheated and legit runs, but hey the system is not perfect, but I do the best I can to keep the boards as legit as possible. I also agree that tktktk should be higher since he was really the first great highscorer, but as Ska said it is players to who influenced him the most and that makes the list very opinionated. But if other people were to post their lists I think that would be a good idea, Although I don't mean to highjack Ska's thread.
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Postby Pheidippides » 2010.06.11 (00:48)

So Afterthought is... an afterthought?
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Postby ska » 2010.06.11 (03:00)

Pheidippides wrote:So Afterthought is... an afterthought?
Honestly, players like Afterthought and Kaellstar were retired before I'd even began highscoring but they did cross my mind. As for tktktk, his influences were widespread. He made some amazing maps but his 0th domination came at a time before Trib4l was around, let alone me. I actually found Brett_Sully quite influential back in the day...

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Postby Kablizzy » 2010.06.11 (04:36)

ska wrote:
Pheidippides wrote:So Afterthought is... an afterthought?
Honestly, players like Afterthought and Kaellstar were retired before I'd even began highscoring but they did cross my mind. As for tktktk, his influences were widespread. He made some amazing maps but his 0th domination came at a time before Trib4l was around, let alone me. I actually found Brett_Sully quite influential back in the day...
I think tktktk was more of a mapping influence than a highscoring influence. After all, he did quit in, like, 2005.
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Postby ska » 2010.06.11 (15:28)

Kablizzy wrote:
ska wrote:
Pheidippides wrote:So Afterthought is... an afterthought?
Honestly, players like Afterthought and Kaellstar were retired before I'd even began highscoring but they did cross my mind. As for tktktk, his influences were widespread. He made some amazing maps but his 0th domination came at a time before Trib4l was around, let alone me. I actually found Brett_Sully quite influential back in the day...
I think tktktk was more of a mapping influence than a highscoring influence. After all, he did quit in, like, 2005.
Exactly, his maps are his legacy. I guess I could relate to players like tktktk who had a strengths in mapping and playing.
Also, the reason tktktk is not higher is because N was not very competitive back then. People were still adjusting to the physics and most people hadn't achieved their potential by that point.

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Postby golf » 2010.06.11 (18:53)

Woo! I made the list! What did I do to get on there, out of curiosity? And how soon can we (hopefully) expect BoN2?
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golfkid wrote:And how soon can we (hopefully) expect BoN2?
Yeah, how soon?
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About me & Stats (Spoiler)

Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.

Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
• Completed NReality on 24th Dec. 2010
0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Top20 Rankings with 599 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Top10 Rankings with 599 Scores.
1st Place on Metanet Top5 Rankings with 595 Scores.
0th Place on Metanet Level 0th Rankings with 361 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Episode 0th Rankings with 82 0ths.
0th Place on Metanet Total Level Score: 72142.900 (20:02:22.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Episode Score: 35669.900 (09:54:29.900)
0th Place on Metanet Total Point Rankings with 11669 Points.
0th Place in NReality 0th Rankings with 235 0ths.
0th Place for a grand total of 676 Total 0ths.
• Winner of some contests (BUST, 100, 9000, Bounty Hunters, SOAST) and of some rounds of some contests (ROPP, NErratic, Red Ball, NReality Team Arena)

{Info as of 01/Feb/2015} The info may be outdated.

Achievements
• 6th highscorer to reach 100 Metanet 0ths
• 4th highscorer to reach 200 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 300 Metanet 0ths
• 1st and only highscorer to reach 400 Metanet 0ths
• 8th ever Grandmaster
• 2nd* highscorer to reach 599 top-20 Scores
• 1st highscorer to reach 599 top-10 Scores
• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
• 5th highscorer to reach 71k Level Score
• 2nd highscorer to reach 71.5k Level Score
• 1st highscorer to reach 72k Level Score

Relevant Dates
• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
• Reached 100 Metanet 0ths on 25/Feb/12
• Reached 200 Metanet 0ths on 30/Sep/12
• Reached 300 Metanet 0ths on 16/Mar/13
• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
• Reached 200 NReality 0ths on Nov/2011
• Reached 100 Top-20 Scores on Aug/10
• Reached 200 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 300 Top-20 Scores on Nov/11
• Reached 400 Top-20 Scores on Dec/11
• Reached 500 Top-20 Scores on Jan/12
• Reached 599 Top-20 Scores on 04/Apr/12
• Reached 599 Top-10 Scores on 18/Nov/12

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Postby vankusss » 2010.06.11 (21:04)

EddyMataGallos wrote:
golfkid wrote:And how soon can we (hopefully) expect BoN2?
Yeah, how soon?
Yeah, how soon?
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Postby Raif » 2010.06.12 (06:56)

vankusss wrote:
EddyMataGallos wrote:
golfkid wrote:And how soon can we (hopefully) expect BoN2?
Yeah, how soon?
Yeah, how soon?
Hurry up, ska!

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Postby Kablizzy » 2010.06.12 (07:19)

ska wrote:
Kablizzy wrote: I think tktktk was more of a mapping influence than a highscoring influence. After all, he did quit in, like, 2005.
Exactly, his maps are his legacy.
Gahahahaha. I hope to God this was a play on words, because if so - Well done.
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Postby ska » 2010.06.12 (23:37)

Kablizzy wrote:
ska wrote:
Kablizzy wrote: I think tktktk was more of a mapping influence than a highscoring influence. After all, he did quit in, like, 2005.
Exactly, his maps are his legacy.
Gahahahaha. I hope to God this was a play on words, because if so - Well done.
Actually, perhaps subliminally so because the thought crossed my mind after writing it! O_o

Expect BoN2 within 3 weeks.

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Postby otters~1 » 2010.06.13 (19:32)

ska wrote:Expect BoN2 within 3 weeks.
Nice! Can we have it global'd when it comes out, please?
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Postby Kool » 2010.06.14 (02:37)

how bout someone make a playerlegends list or something.

I have more credibility and skill than most of those players easily. as does kryX. but we never get noticed for all our 0ths cuz we're sr, which apparently, some think is easier or something. which is total bullshit as I don't see any of those players excluding a few taking our 0ths. :/
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Postby Raif » 2010.06.14 (09:46)

Kool wrote:how bout someone make a playerlegends list or something.

I have more credibility and skill than most of those players easily. as does kryX. but we never get noticed for all our 0ths cuz we're sr, which apparently, some think is easier or something. which is total bullshit as I don't see any of those players excluding a few taking our 0ths. :/
Yeah, kryX and Kool should be on there because it says players. :/
This is more like a "ska's list of most influential N highscorers of all time"


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