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Someone (I'm not sure whether he will want to be named or not) managed to get the N v1.4 userlevels data for v2.0 holiday contesque levels.

Paradox-Dragon thought it would be a cool idea to speedrun the levels in v1.4, so if there are enough people who think it is good idea or want to participate I guess we could turn into a competition.

I am not completely sure how the challenge should go; it could be done by either the least total frame count for each column or by giving points for your position on each level.
Another question is whether the submission should be in the topic or by PM.

The large number of levels you would have to speedrun may also be a problem, making it difficult to compare runs or even get the results done.

So, if you have any idea or opinions feel free to post them.

Note: I didn't post the userlevels data because I'm not entirely sure it would be right to do that, seeing that the method used to obtain them was certainly not very legal. So, this could also be a problem, M&R might not like to have the level data of their beta all over the internet.

I'd say judge based off of frame count. Anyways, I like the idea and will totally participate.

I think it should be accessible by all.. players should have the right to practice levels; especially deeper into the column as opposed to risking botching routes during a proper run. Hit us up with the beta data suna rather than lata.

ska wrote:I think it should be accessible by all.. players should have the right to practice levels; especially deeper into the column as opposed to risking botching routes during a proper run. Hit us up with the beta data suna rather than lata.

Haha, I don't think that is exactly a right. In fact, considering that this is a contest and that only having the one shot at a good run is sort of the entire point of this challenge game mode, this sounds a lot more like a wrong. It's cheating.

Wait until January 15, at least.

ska wrote:I think it should be accessible by all.. players should have the right to practice levels; especially deeper into the column as opposed to risking botching routes during a proper run. Hit us up with the beta data suna rather than lata.

They shouldn't, that's the point of the whole challenge.
But since some people have it now and some don't, i guess the only option is to release it, to make it fair. And of course notify M&R, that it happened, so they can officially release them. Or something.

Yeah, I'm not sure this is really in the spirit of the contesque. But apparently this was partly my idea? And Ska, don't be a baby, you don't need practice, let alone have a right to it.

LouDog004 wrote:But apparently this was partly my idea?

Umm Dox told me it was :S
Removed your name now.

And anyway, if you wanted to practice a level it wouldn't be too hard to recreate it in NED and there's nothing stopping you from doing that, so what would be the difference?

This is a cool idea, but it does kind of ruin the contesque that M&R have designed. They also said that after the 15th all of the demo's will be released and I am assuming that also means that the levels will be too. So at that point I think this is a great idea and should absolutely be done and I can't wait to participate.

mohamedraif wrote:

LouDog004 wrote:But apparently this was partly my idea?

Umm Dox told me it was :S
Removed your name now.

And anyway, if you wanted to practice a level it wouldn't be too hard to recreate it in NED and there's nothing stopping you from doing that, so what would be the difference?

Yeah... like, I don't consider it cheating... it's just saving me the time of spending 30 trivial minutes to get to a level just to practice some crazy-ass route. When it comes to the actual run, you do what you do at the time.. stop being so uptight.. not everyone can spend 6 hours a day honing each level in ep format.

blah, blah, contesque is over.

So I guess if you want to participate, just post your runs in a file here. You can update them later.
I would appreciate it if you put the frame count in front of the demo to make it easier for me..

Rules: No underclock, FBF or MBDing. Be honest. Don't complain.

Contest will continue as long as it takes for an acceptable number of people to speedrun all the levels.
If no one wants to particpate.. well, it'll never finish then.
(Edit: If you were wondering basically the idea is wait until 4 to 10 people (depending on how interested people are) sub demos for all 3 modes and then give like a 2 week window in which to finalize your demos. If 4 people don't submit; guess it'll never finish then.)

Current Standings
Hard
0. Eddy - 22,523
1. van - 23,106
2. Raif - 23,226
3. TRO - 23,792
4. Toilette - 24,270
5. loudog - 24,738
6. Dox - 24,747
7.

Harder
0. Eddy - 30,929
1. loudog - 34,778
2.

Hardest
0. Eddy - 22,998
1. loudog - 25,218
2.

Just to start off things and give you something to beat (however crap my demos maybe) here's me demos for Hard.

Feels so good to finally do triples cjs css and stuff on those maps...
I actually didn't realize that in the first 10 levels or so and was avoiding all that stuff lol.

Oh no, i was hoping van wouldn't see this, well, we know who's gonna win now

Here's my score for hard, only beat Raif by 42 frames

EDIT

As Toilette has now found 2 mistakes in my scores... 1 being 0-01 & 0-02 were messed up (fixed before i posted them here) & now i was missing 0-36, so i am now 271 frames behind Raif

This is what I got after the first time going through the levels some time yesterday.

Improved Hard.

I'm sitting at
hard 24738
harder 34778
hardest 25218

Improved a little.

25,018 first play through. That is pretty bad.

I got 23106, but i can't see 600 frames being left there :O I think me or eddy made a calculating mistake.

Nice van, and sorry but there are no calculations mistakes by my part, I've got all levels and scores in excel, updated everytime.
Finished the other columns though, scores are:

Hard: 22523
Harder: 30929
Hardest: 22998

Wont post my demos at the moment, havent compiled them yet.
Raif, would you prefer the framecount before each demo, or the full spreadsheet so you can check the scores and calculations easily?

I would prefer the spreadsheet since you have already made one.

Great, Ill attach the spreadsheet here too when I compile my demos ;)

I'm down to 23,792 on Hard

Finally beat harder 33994 frames

Sorry about double post but i'm not sure how to have 2 attachments on 1 post

Beat Hardest 25494 frames