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Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (00:04)
by Lenny
Most people have heard Viva La Vida. Nominated for seven Grammys, including "Song Of The Year", and now the second-best selling song on iTunes this year, it's a pretty big deal.
However, in recent news, Coldplay is being sued by Joe Satriani for copying "substantial original portions" of his all-instrumental piece from 2004, "If I Could Fly".
So, what do you think? There's a brilliant comparison video on Youtube, which overlaps the two songs to show similarities. Check that out
here.
Alternatively, just look up either song on YouTube and you're sure to find a video.
There are also news articles on
MTV, and
Yahoo News, not to mention hundreds of other sites if you just
look it up on Google.
So, what do you think?
Lenny
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (00:12)
by a happy song
The world is a tiny place, so tiny that every now and then people will produce creative works that a similar enough to be compared in this way.
The main melody is quite generic anyway, I'm pretty sure these aren't the first two guys in the history of everything to use it.
All I really know is that album makes sounds that induce involuntary feverish and violent spasms whenever I'm unfortunate enough to be in local proximity to them.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (00:13)
by TribulatioN
Ah yes, the great Coldplay scandal version 2.0.
I still think that it's purely coincidental or just Chris Martin and Co. getting inspired to the extreme.
I take Coldplay's side in this.
Version 1.0.
Coldplay's Viva La Vida vs. Creaky Boards' The Songs I Didn't Write
YouTube Video
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (02:05)
by wedgie
The similarities are almost identical. Coldplay are a bunch of bumholes anyway so I side with Satriani on this. It might bring them down of their ridiculously high pedestal that they seem to think they sit on.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (02:33)
by capt_weasle
God forbid two songs sound similar. I think everyone is overreacting.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (03:06)
by t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư
Thank god Pachelbel is no longer alive. He'd be suing half of the music industry by this point.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (05:54)
by T3chno
I think Vanilla Ice would know what to do here.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (06:46)
by Lenny
Tsukatu wrote:Thank god Pachelbel is no longer alive. He'd be suing half of the music industry by this point.
Hahaha. That's true, although once the song is over 20 or something years old the creative commons licence on it expires - however the producer may choose to renew it as I assume happens with a lot of modern music.
And as to the Creeky Board scandal, I saw about that as well, though I think that was just the writer of a small band trying to get himself more known.
Anyway, personally I think I may be on Satriani's side in this, because it just sounds so similar. Now all he has to do is prove that they heard it... hmm.
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Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (07:02)
by wolfgang
Someone actually told me that this predated both the Satriani and Coldplay songs (I can't really verify that). Just an interesting addition either way.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G57CgtX-BsI
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (07:13)
by T3chno
Heh.
Rock royalty vs pop paupers
Coldplay
* Chris Martin is widely considered one of the most influential musicians of his generation, and was acclaimed as "heir apparent to Bono" on the band's last tour in 2006.
* Coldplay boast 447,546 friends on MySpace and 222,985 fans on Facebook.
* Coldplay are signed to Parlophone, part of EMI.
* Chris Martin is married to the actress Gwyneth Paltrow.
Creaky Boards
* Andrew Hoepfner's biggest endorsement so far comes from a New York free paper, The Village Broadsheet: "His songs hit on a strange-but-perfect kink-swing tradition"
* Creaky Boards have 1,873 friends on MySpace. They don't bother with Facebook.
* Creaky Boards are still looking for a record deal.
* Andrew Hoepfner's marital status is unknown.
Source
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (07:30)
by capt_weasle
I think it's funny Creaky Boards based their evidence on the fact they "thought they say Chris Martin in the crowd." And George Lucas stole my idea for a lightsaber when he was at my school's film festival when I used a light bulb for a sword in my movie. Jerk.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (07:31)
by a happy song
Techno wrote:
* Chris Martin is widely considered one of the most influential musicians of his generation, and was acclaimed as "heir apparent to Bono" on the band's last tour in 2006.
And their music didn't make me despair enough. The Bono reference says it all...
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (09:35)
by 乳头的早餐谷物
I think I've now heard four different songs that Coldplay are claimed to have plagiarised for Viva La Vida.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (10:46)
by Atilla
maestro wrote:I think I've now heard four different songs that Coldplay are claimed to have plagiarised for Viva La Vida.
My theory is that time has formed a stable loop and they all plagiarised each other in sequence.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (12:39)
by Lenny
maestro wrote:I think I've now heard four different songs that Coldplay are claimed to have plagiarised for Viva La Vida.
What's the fourth? I only see the one Techno posted, the Creaky Boards one, and Satriani's version.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (12:57)
by Deathconciousness
I'm fairly sure this will go the way of the Cat Steven's (Father & Son) vs The Flaming Lips (Fight Test) case, and there will be royalties rewarded, but it will be partial and settled outside of court.
But i could be wrong. As much of a dissenter that i am of Coldplay, i dislike Satch far far worse.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (13:04)
by wedgie
I think that in all fairness, some riffs will inevitably sound very similar or even identical to other songs.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (20:50)
by Skyling
Hey, maybe Coldplay should just make original music!
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.10 (21:34)
by a happy song
Skyline wrote:Hey, maybe Coldplay should just stop makeing original music!
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.11 (00:09)
by Lenny
Snap. :D
I'm not sure, though. I don't listen to their music, but I hear they're pretty well liked. You can never have all of the market.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.27 (08:40)
by Zephyr
I heard on the radio a week after viva la vida was released that some band thought viva la vida was plagiarising their song too, they said they saw coldplay in the crowd at their concert, and at first they were pretty happy (famous band going to your concert? Who wouldnt be). Until viva la vida was released, and they got pretty pissed at coldplay too.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.27 (09:40)
by Lenny
z3phyr wrote:I heard on the radio a week after viva la vida was released that some band thought viva la vida was plagiarising their song too, they said they saw coldplay in the crowd at their concert, and at first they were pretty happy (famous band going to your concert? Who wouldnt be). Until viva la vida was released, and they got pretty pissed at coldplay too.
Mhmm. Check out what Tribulation said earlier, which is what I think you're referring to.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.27 (23:45)
by Zephyr
Yeah, something to do with creaky boards :)
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.28 (03:58)
by aids
I side with Coldplay. I mean, what are the chances that Chris Martin would've heard The Creaky Boards' song?
here are some other song rip-offs.
plus,
another reason to hate Nickelback.
Re: Coldplay sued for Viva La Vida plagiarism
Posted: 2008.12.29 (03:37)
by SlappyMcGee
The Satch is a good guy, and an excellent musician, but I doubt Coldplay listens to him.