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90s Indie/Brit Pop is a former grand love of mine. :)

I... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

http://www.last.fm/user/Yahoozy

Edit: To elaborate, "indie" is not a genre of music. It's in reference to the type of label (an independent label, that is) a particular band is signed to. Even still, "indie" ranges far beyond the realm of "alternative rock". All that said, Oasis and Bon Jovi are not "indie".

Edit: And Jet is an awful band.

I think he meant "Indie Rock", Yahoozy. Also, how have The White Stripes not been mentioned? Also Franz Ferdinand could be considered indie rock.

By "indie" did you perhaps mean "shitty mainstream rock music that can't possibly be considered indie at all"?

I... wow. I totally just hit the edit button instead of the quote button. Sorry about that.

Anyway, yeah. Taste is subjective, yes. Genres are objective, however, and these musicians are not "indie". "Indie" isn't a sound, it's not a genre, it's a record label. These are alternative rock bands.

There's a problem with this thread, and I think it stems from your notion of indie rock. While I think a lot of music CAN be classified as indie rock, certainly almost none of the bands you mentioned fit that bill, since Oasis, Bon Jovi, and the fucking Beatles have sold billions of albums and are signed to labels for the next two million years, if they want. Indie denotes independent, which in today's society usually means a smaller label.

Besides, most of what was listed was Britpop, anyways.

I'm sure you can spot some of the artists here.

Skyline wrote:By "indie" did you perhaps mean "shitty mainstream rock music that can't possibly be considered indie at all"?

All you ever do is criticize other peoples' music tastes. :/

By "other peoples' music tastes" did you perhaps mean "the inferior tastes of idiots to whom I am much superior"?

I take it this thread was originally titled 'indie' and then changed to 'britpop'? Either way, many songs and artists that have been mentioned don't fit and seem to just be random songs the poster likes.

If we actually are talking about britpop: Blur are fantastic. Oasis, not so much.

Yahoozy wrote:By "other peoples' music tastes" did you perhaps mean "the inferior tastes of idiots to whom I am much superior"?

I... this confuses me. Are you inferring that Techno is much superior to anybody? Or that I am? Because the former would just be completely incredulous, but the latter would be rather acceptable.

Skyline wrote:

Yahoozy wrote:By "other peoples' music tastes" did you perhaps mean "the inferior tastes of idiots to whom I am much superior"?

I... this confuses me. Are you inferring that Techno is much superior to anybody? Or that I am? Because the former would just be completely incredulous, but the latter would be rather acceptable.

I'm pretty sure it was pointed at you. And it's fair, considering your post.

Bon Jovi is great. I love Blur's "Song 2"; haven't heard anything else from them, though.

Coldplay, Bloc Party, and Franz Ferdinand are good too.

R.E.M. is great. I love "It's the End of the World" and "The One I Love" (pun not intended, heheh.)

The Beatles are pretty good, I guess. I liked the cover of Wonderwall that Jay-Z did.

I prefer kanye/bittersweet symphony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bRoGD2Qbw

Jet do not make pop music. They make rock.
I'm not usually one to fuss over genres, but wow.

SkyPanda wrote:Jet do not make pop music. They make rock.
I'm not usually one to fuss over genres, but wow.

Although Jet certainly don't belong to it, britpop is a rock subgenre. In any case, fussing over such things hardly matters here because the genres in this thread are all a bit messed up.

maestro wrote:britpop is a rock subgenre

Let's just divert from my lack of musical genre knowledge here and focus my post on my original point, which is that Jet are rockers from Australia who should not be called british, pop, or any varient of the two, even if the terms combined represent a rock subgenre, which is just silly, really. The world should totally let me name stuff.

In other words, you're right, thanks. :)

SkyPanda, did you selectively ignore all of the parts of maestro's post where he completely and utterly agreed with you? Step off, brah'.

Britpop was almost entirely poor. Pulp are fucking awesome though and transcend the genre. Oasis tend to be monotonous and unoriginal, but they do have their moments, and there is much worse 'stadium rock' out there.

Also yahoozy, whilst Indie did initially refer to independent labels, I think the battle has been lost, and coffee table music lovers are going to continue to label coldplay et al. as indie music - you may as well stop trying to contest the point.

mintnut wrote:Britpop was almost entirely poor. Pulp are fucking awesome though and transcend the genre. Oasis tend to be monotonous and unoriginal, but they do have their moments, and there is much worse 'stadium rock' out there.

Also yahoozy, whilst Indie did initially refer to independent labels, I think the battle has been lost, and coffee table music lovers are going to continue to label coldplay et al. as indie music - you may as well stop trying to contest the point.

mintnut wins the thread.

My feeling is that most early 'britpop' was just shoegaze with all of the interesting bits taken out, and then went on a downward spiral.

Borealis wrote:My feeling is that most early 'britpop' was just shoegaze with all of the interesting bits taken out, and then went on a downward spiral.

I'd like to hear more about this theory, since I find the two genres completely distinct.

SlappyMcGee wrote:

Borealis wrote:My feeling is that most early 'britpop' was just shoegaze with all of the interesting bits taken out, and then went on a downward spiral.

I'd like to hear more about this theory, since I find the two genres completely distinct.

I'm hoping he's talking about stuff like Slowdive, they were great!
http://www.last.fm/music/Slowdive

Slappy wrote:SkyPanda, did you selectively ignore all of the parts of maestro's post where he completely and utterly agreed with you? Step off, brah'.

Whoah, tone misjudge! I totally agreed with maesto. And I love maestro, i'm gonna go post that in the love thread.


Mintnut, who do Oasis rip off? (/question)

SkyPanda wrote:Mintnut, who do Oasis rip off? (/question)

Well, they're hugely inspired by The Beatles. I think Noel has (read: had - first two albums) enough individual charm to distinguish enough, though.