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never knows best

Posted: 2009.10.16 (23:00)
by rocket_thumped
never knows best -->

It's been a tough year. Lots of good help in this level pack from a lot of good people. lord_day and skyline play-tested. I'll be releasing them in fourths, one 25 map lump at a time. Enjoy.

Turns out some people were unaware that you need to level sort the maps in userlevels by clicking the level button at the top of the list. Otherwise the maps will not play in order. :<

(side a)
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The weakest portion of maps I think. Some really great spots from sept, lord_day and others bring it up though.

Mommy, Mommy, Where's My Brain? The best from this portion of maps. Except for maybe 'A Dharma Bum', but that's the kind of map that I think wouldn't get a second look on numa.

(side b)
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As with the rest of the pack, this portion will be better than the last. southpaw, toasters, and atob all have pretty cool maps in this part. I left the '&userdata=' thing out of this text file because I figured you guys could just slip this in under side a. Thanks for all the feedback guys, keep it up!

Cult Logic, I made with sept in mind, and he liked it, and I liked that he liked it. That's why it's in the pack. :D

Science is Fiction is an open crystalline action that I liked a lot, the name came from a Skyline IRC post or something, I can't quite remember.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun. is a map I love dearly, concept map with one-ways. cowboy bebop, lol.

Copacabana has some aesthetics borrowed from lord_day. It works really well as an arena action, a playground. Edit: Hey this one was featured!

(side c)
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Starting to pick it up now I think. This section starts to get harder more puzzly, the last one's my favorite. Also, be sure to level sort, and if you've downloaded the previous two sides you can just slip this under them in userlevels. Be sure to tell me what you think!

Heads Will Roll is a dance map. I really love how the yellows and blacks go together. The map for me, is very visually appealing.

Hellhole Ratrace was inspired by steez, which I guess is shortshift.. but whatever. The map is really fun, and pretty long, picaresque I think.

Lights All Askew In the Heavens is a simple cave type map with gauss. Uses the gauss trick made famous by Yahoozy's dronie winning map (can't remember the title). The title comes from a newspaper clipping about Einsteins general relativity.

(side d)
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Absolutely the best side. These are really hard though, includes some clever puzzles and ridiculous actions. This is probably the most inventive and unique side as well.

Get Behind Me Satan is a concept map that was kicked around for a few weeks. I think it ended pretty well, a challenging thwump puzzle with pretty aesthetics.

Convinced of the Hex is probably the hardest map in the pack. You have to know how to manipulate chainguns to make your way to the exit.

Abraxas got mixed reviews from playtesters, but I thought it played really well, and while it doesn't look so great in the thumbnail it isn't bad in full view.

Great Gonzos has some unique gameplay and aesthetics that I thought gave the pack some variety.

If You're Feeling Sinister started out as a collaboration with southpaw, but he pussed out so I finished it up myself. It was the last map I made for the pack, and has a different feel and look compared to the rest of the maps.

Screaming Fields of Sonic Love is one of the first maps I made for the pack. It's extremely hard, I just love the title to death.

Young Adult Friction is maybe in hindsight a bit too hard. It may be one of the hardest one enemy maps I've ever played, it's certainly the hardest I've ever made.

Pantera! is a map I wanted to be very abrasive and sharp, while still maintaining a polished look. Edit: This one was featured too!

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.17 (00:28)
by Rhekatou
A chapel with a maching gun on top?

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.17 (14:12)
by nevershine
played it.

i guess it's very allright. faves: Head East, Switchboard, A Dharma Bum and Maximos map (weird name :P)

ah, and Don't Panic is great, too. the title reminds me of the Hitchhiker's Guide.

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.17 (20:02)
by toasters
Some cool maps here, but I'm really looking forward to the following parts.

Edit >> Favorites so far: 006, 013, 016, (018), 019.

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.18 (17:29)
by Aphex
FLCL references are the best kind of references.
Downloading now.

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.18 (18:30)
by Rule
You could have just released this in the old topic you know, with a title change and everything.

EDIT: But the pack is good enough to correct your mistake.

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.18 (19:36)
by rocket_thumped
Rule wrote:You could have just released this in the old topic you know, with a title change and everything.

EDIT: But the pack is good enough to correct your mistake.

Well I didn't want the poll option at the top of the thread. I thought the rule was that you shouldn't make a hype thread and a thread for the pack itself. This doesn't fall under that because the old thread wasn't a hype thread but actually a thread to ask about the distribution of my level pack. If I'm completely off base here I apologize.

Also, I'm glad you think it's good. :D

Re: never knows best (side a is out)

Posted: 2009.10.19 (23:07)
by T3chno
I played this a little while ago and I think it's excellent. Can't wait for the next three parts.

More people should play this.

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.22 (16:48)
by Donfuy
NEVER KNOWS BEST (side a)
Commenting and Rating
by Donfuy


==/Stringent Theory\==
Not much to say about it. Good aesthetics.
3/5


==/Covered the West in Phone Lines\==
It was quite good, both in gameplay and aesthetics. Still,
3.5/5


==/Here Comes the Sun\==
Fun to play, those three pieces of gold on the bottom being a great challenge.
4/5


==/LaffaKINGfrance\==
was simple but great. Loved the aesthetics and the overall fell of it. I'm bad with words so I'll just give it a
4.5/5


==/Don't Panic\==
was quite amusing! Even if the left side was little little tiny bit too bland, I still loved it.
4.5/5


==/Flumes\==
Too short and simplistic.
2.5/5


==/Electric Stampede\==
was a little weird and even messy in design, but I awkwardly liked it.
3.5/5


==/Head East\==
I quite loved it. Quite fast, quite challenging and quite short.
4/5


==/Salvation\==
I loved the gold up on the cross. OMGOMGISURE WANTED THAT FEELING OF JOY LASTED FOR A THOUSAND SECONDS. Oh, uhm, the rest was meh.
4/5


==/Brute\==
Blast to play.
5/5


==/Hear Your Sign\==
was good, yet a little too repetitive.
3/5


==/A Dharma Bum\==
Left side was fun.
3.5/5


==/Party Bones\==
No comments or rating. Reason being the fact that I usually dislike and don't enjoy this kind of thwump riding challenges.
-/5


==/Collectathon Megatron\==
Hm, it was quite good, and it felt Metanet-ish too.
4/5


==/Switchboard\==
was meh. Not much to say about this one.
2.5/5


==/Young Hearts Spark Fire\==
was awesome. The rocket was well positioned and so was the seeker drone.
5/5


==/Treasures and Tentacles\==
was perfect.
5/5


==/Crucifixion (Corpus Hypercubus)\==
was pretty good. Much better than I first thought it would be.
4/5


==/you told me there were no stars, just satellites.\==
Great, almost fantastic.
4.5/5


==/LOVE YER BRAIN\==
I HAVE NOE WORDS FOR IT BEST MAP IN PACK
10/5


==/The Tallest Man on Earth\==
was amusing
4/5


==/MAYOhalfsumoTHAT\==
Simplistic yet cool.
4.5/5


==/Aquaducts\==
was "meh, okay" to me.
3/5


==/No Hope Astronaut\==
4/5


==/Mommy, Mommy, Where's My Brain?\==
I loved it overall. Well done.
4.5/5
DISCLAIMER

This is solely my opinion, of course you have the right to disagree, but you don't have the right to bash me because you think I'm not in the position or have the experience to rate map. If you do think I don't have the experience to rate/comment, too bad.

Also! Sorry for this disclaimer being a little aggressive, but I feel like it's necessary, just so I don't have to discuss or something like that :D



CONCLUSION

I HAD A GREAT TIME PLAYING IT. 'NUFF SAID.[/font]
Also, whaddya think of the looks of this? :D

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.22 (16:57)
by lord_day
That was beautiful Donfuy.

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.22 (17:12)
by rocket_thumped
OMG Dunfoy, that's beyond amazingly beautiful. If I had known how to do that, I would have done some cool format/color shit for the pack. Also, thanks a ton for playing and commenting on each map. I hope you find the time to do the rest as well. :D

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.23 (19:43)
by MattKestrel
Haha, donfuy gets post of the year. For the win!

Also, this pack is orgasmically amazing. I'm actually userleveling this. Good job, submit more maps from it to NUMA. >:D

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.23 (22:55)
by Donfuy
NEVER KNOWS BEST (side b)
Commenting and Rating
by Donfuy


==/Show Your Bones\==
was good... I think, but a bit boring, especially in design.
3/5


==/Eros and the Galactic Stew\==
felt quite good. First impressions, like two hours ago, were quite dissapointing. I guess I was in a bad mood.
4/5


==/broken glass indications of a house\==
felt a little too empty, although I liked the overall idea of it
4/5


==/Cult Logic\==
was amazing. It was flowy like hell!
5/5


==/Dead Pixels\==
was too simplistic and a little repetitive.
2/5


==/The Knife\==
was fun.
4/5


==/Come On, Die Young\==
was meh. Like I said before, I don't like riding in thwumps. Thwumps+gauss=:(
3/5


==/Science is Fiction\==
was really fun. The rocket did an amazing job and it felt flowy overall.
4/5


==/Wolves in the Throneroom.\==
JESUS HELL FUCK IT'S PISSING ME OFF GOSH ARGH I HATE THIS
4.5/5


==/The Summer of 2007.\==
3/5


==/Copacabana\==
was good, even if I got the feel I had played this same map before.
4/5


==/Burnt Toast\==
felt really, really, really like a Metanet level. Really.
3.5/5


==/Soul Sacrifice\==
was pretty great, the combination of the gauss with the rocket approved.
4/5


==/East of Eden.\==
Hm, it was quite good, and it felt Metanet-ish too.
4/5


==/there was marigolds, marigolds were in your eyes\==
was good.
3.5/5


==/Set the controls for the heart of the sun. Roger.\==
3.5/5


==/Superconnecter.\==
4/5


==/Soft Shock\==
was pretty good.
3.5/5


==/Power's Out\==
was an awesome challenge.
10/5

You might have noticed I didn't review some maps. That doesn't mean I didn't like them. It means I didn't complete them, and I didn't have the skill/patience to complete them. If I don't complete a map, I don't feel comfortable reviewing. I don't even really like to comment on a map where I didn't do an AGD!
DISCLAIMER

This is solely my opinion, of course you have the right to disagree, but you don't have the right to bash me because you think I'm not in the position or have the experience to rate map. If you do think I don't have the experience to rate/comment, too bad.

Also! Sorry for this disclaimer being a little aggressive, but I feel like it's necessary, just so I don't have to discuss or something like that :D



CONCLUSION

It certainly wasn't as fun as side a, while still having some really great ones. Haha, I find pretty curious you find this better than the other! Is it just me? Looking forward to more![/font]

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.25 (22:06)
by yungerkid
I just finished playing through all of side b. It was decent overall. Better at the beginning than at the end. Copablanca or whatever it was stood out as being particularly good, and I liked the Soul Sacrifice thing too.

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.26 (01:42)
by Erik-Player
The transitions were finicky, but this is definitely a great pack so far!

Re: never knows best (side b)

Posted: 2009.10.26 (22:32)
by rocket_thumped
Erik-Player wrote:The transitions were finicky, but this is definitely a great pack so far!
Well, I didn't want this to episodic by any means.. but maybe I should have payed more attention to that. Also, thanks!

Re: never knows best (side c)

Posted: 2009.10.27 (02:59)
by moonlight
I finished side A and I'm half way done with side B, and I have to say, great pack so far. A perfect combo of r_t and other amazing authors! I'll give my final opinion when I'm done with the rest of the pack. :)

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.11.15 (20:23)
by otters~1
Whole pack 5aved. Love love love.

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.04 (21:56)
by rocket_thumped
was kicking around releasing a shortened version of just my favorites.. Is there any support for this idea?

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.05 (04:18)
by otters~1
rocket_thumped wrote:was kicking around releasing a shortened version of just my favorites.. Is there any support for this idea?
So long as you keep subbing 'em to NUMA.

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.05 (05:43)
by rocket_thumped
flagmyidol wrote:
rocket_thumped wrote:was kicking around releasing a shortened version of just my favorites.. Is there any support for this idea?
So long as you keep subbing 'em to NUMA.
No one plays them when I put them on numa. :<

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.05 (20:05)
by Donfuy
rocket_thumped wrote:
flagmyidol wrote:
rocket_thumped wrote:was kicking around releasing a shortened version of just my favorites.. Is there any support for this idea?
So long as you keep subbing 'em to NUMA.
No one plays them when I put them on numa. :<
Sub them to numa and post links here!

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.05 (22:18)
by rocket_thumped
Donfuy wrote:
rocket_thumped wrote:
flagmyidol wrote:
So long as you keep subbing 'em to NUMA.
No one plays them when I put them on numa. :<
Sub them to numa and post links here!
[cough] looks at first post [cough]

But maybe I should have put them in a new post?

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.06 (00:51)
by otters~1
Dude I play all your maps. Not my fault the idiots can't see a good map when it's raping them in the ass. (To be fair, they'd be looking in the other direction....)

Re: never knows best (side d)

Posted: 2009.12.09 (17:45)
by rocket_thumped
flagmyidol wrote:Dude I play all your maps. Not my fault the idiots can't see a good map when it's raping them in the ass. (To be fair, they'd be looking in the other direction....)
Awww... shucks..