NReality Battle Land System Opened and Updated!

[Unreality]

yea, for total skill xaelar > all I believe :)

but since izzy tro tfk still have their strength point, so i believe they still hold some chance of securing their lands against goddy xaelar XD I believe players can still have fun playing land maps...

[Exüberance]

This contest is a great way to get people to play your map. They don't usually rate and/or comment, but they play it! I almost WANT my lands to be overthrown, since that means people are playing them ^_^. Especially when they don't have an adjacent land so I don't actually lose it, heh. Too bad I have to submit the map first, then highscore it. I guess that's fair though.... though you always could submit without the tag, delist, perfect, relist, and tag. Hhhhmmmm, not a bad idea? Is this allowed or would you consider that cheating?

[Unreality]

delisted maps are okay

I would suggest ppl to submit an empty map, delist, edit, highscores, then claim

[Nexx]

This contest is a great way to get people to play your map. They don't usually rate and/or comment, but they play it! I almost WANT my lands to be overthrown, since that means people are playing them ^_^.

I thought that at first, but not really anymore. I mean, yes, your map will be played by at least one other person, but since this is a highscoring contest, unless your score is pretty good, it'll be overthrown by one guy, so only one person will have played your map. Plus, you won't really be participating in the contest the way it's meant to be, you'll just be using it as a way to get people to demo your maps. People who are actually playing the game will be submitting maps that they can protect best, as xaelar put it. That means they'll likely be making new maps for the competition, not just highscoring existing ones of theirs (I'm saying ones they've already made but haven't subbed to NUMA).

My point, summed up: Maps that are good maps won't be getting played as much as maps that are good for highscore defending.

But still, it does get people playing other people's maps, yes. And it's also fun and brilliant and all that, yes. :P

[origami_alligator]

delisted maps are okay

I would suggest ppl to submit an empty map, delist, edit, highscores, then claim

My thoughts are that you should not allow people to just add Nreality code to a previously made map. I think you should have to make the entire map yourself and old maps shouldn't be allowed.

http://nmaps.net/164980

I hope to God you're not going to use that map in your competition. Not only is it unfair that bhz didn't actually create the map, it's not okay because karmap0lice already said it was against his wishes. The map should have never been made in the first place.

[Unreality]

My thoughts are that you should not allow people to just add Nreality code to a previously made map. I think you should have to make the entire map yourself and old maps shouldn't be allowed.

http://nmaps.net/164980

I have pm-ed bhz to ask him to use another map. Since I don't think it is necessary to make the entire map by themselves, I would prefer letting the participants use other ppl maps as long as they have the original author permission

p.s. I have changed the Q&A of the first post

From bhz:
Are we allowed to resubmit a map of another player and use it to play in land battles?
Are we allowed to resubmit a map of ourselves to use in land battles?
Are we allowed to resubmit a map that was conquered earlier on to use in land battles?
Yes, yes, yes, use any maps you like. Get the original author permission first and credit/link the original map at numa if it isn't created by you

[Exüberance]

delisted maps are okay

I would suggest ppl to submit an empty map, delist, edit, highscores, then claim

*schemey fingers*

Heh heh heh. This changes everything. Makes it slightly easier for people like me who are good at N, but not quite good enough to get decent highscores... then again it's easier for everyone. Oh well!

it'll be overthrown by one guy, so only one person will have played your map.

Yes, but only if the person who beat your highscore has a map beside yours. A lot of people highscore in advance. Still a good way for people to notice yoru map even if they don't click the NUMA link.

[TheRealOne]

delisted maps are okay

I would suggest ppl to submit an empty map, delist, edit, highscores, then claim

*schemey fingers*

Heh heh heh. This changes everything. Makes it slightly easier for people like me who are good at N, but not quite good enough to get decent highscores... then again it's easier for everyone. Oh well!

It doesnt really change anything because on the battle lands page the maps are direct linked so even if you delist the map numbers are still there so you don't really hide anything.

[Unreality]

delisted maps are okay

I would suggest ppl to submit an empty map, delist, edit, highscores, then claim

*schemey fingers*

Heh heh heh. This changes everything. Makes it slightly easier for people like me who are good at N, but not quite good enough to get decent highscores... then again it's easier for everyone. Oh well!

It doesnt really change anything because on the battle lands page the maps are direct linked so even if you delist the map numbers are still there so you don't really hide anything.

the player can get his best score before submitting to NReality server :)

[Exüberance]

(Most Likely Unintentional) Cheating: http://n.infunity.com/numa.php?mapID=165320 appears to have been edited after highscoring such that in the only highscore, the ninja dies instead of reaching the exit.

[Nexx]

(Most Likely Unintentional) Cheating: http://n.infunity.com/numa.php?mapID=165320 appears to have been edited after highscoring such that in the only highscore, the ninja dies instead of reaching the exit.

I was just about to point that out myself.

It's not a huge deal though. The NReality demo that doesn't work is 137 frames, but he posted a 140-frame legit completion on NUMA.

[Exüberance]

OK, he took out the mines and his demo works again, so it's legitimate again.

EDIT: Woo! Overthrew it anways with the exact same frame count. I wonder how close the demo data is.

[Nexx]

Why is this game so stagnant? It's like people tried it out but aren't sticking with it. I personally like the fact that it's more of a long-term game.

Anyway, exuberance, do you feel like putting a stop to sayko's display? Or are we going to let him have it?

[Unreality]

Why is this game so stagnant? It's like people tried it out but aren't sticking with it.

probably because there is no prize ... like userbar?

oh and it will be great if someone makes a land system title image :D btw the name "battle land system" may not sound enough, please feel free to suggest a cool name :)

[squibbles]

Unreality...I think I love you.

Thanks for yet another great contribution to the community. You rock.

[Unreality]

Unreality...I think I love you.

Thanks for yet another great contribution to the community. You rock.

Thanks for your support :)

[xaelar]

btw the name "battle land system" may not sound enough, please feel free to suggest a cool name :)

Haha, the first which came to my mind was: "Unreality's Area 51"

[Exüberance]

Anyway, exuberance, do you feel like putting a stop to sayko's display? Or are we going to let him have it?

I am going to attempt to overthrow the O and replace it with "C-C-C-Combo Breaker!". :p
Ah yes, the internet meme. Completely random, pointless, overused, and I still have no clue how 90% of them started!

Need to improve my time by half a second though.

[Nexx]

bufar is winning.

[xaelar]

The system lacks something...
There is few battle, because you just can't reach the other lands, and you can't always post maps to do so.

I myself am a highscorer, and not a map maker or map poster. So this starts getting boring for me.

[Unreality]

I don't have any ideas to improve it now.
Maybe some day some time I will think of one :)

[squibbles]

Perhaps a ranking system with multiple land battle playing areas, where players of different skills play against each other...that way everyone gets to play, regardless of skill...winning land increases your skill level, losing it decreases it...once your skill level reaches a certain threshold, you move up to a higher level playing area.

Or would that be too difficult?

[Unreality]

Perhaps a ranking system with multiple land battle playing areas, where players of different skills play against each other...that way everyone gets to play, regardless of skill...winning land increases your skill level, losing it decreases it...once your skill level reaches a certain threshold, you move up to a higher level playing area.

Or would that be too difficult?

we don't have that many player participate, and the main problems is that there are not much ppl with both map making and highscoring skill

[xaelar]

I would like to be able to overthrow lands all over the map ;)
That would solve it for me at least, dunno about others :/

[Nexx]

Well I'd like it (and I'm sure xaelar would as well) if you could submit a run from any map, not just your own. It would require some extra input from the user, though. You'd have to submit your run, then go to the Land Battle page and tell it what map that run is on and what space you'd like to claim with it. While that might make things a bit unfair for non-highscorers ('cuz they probably have many awesome existing NUMA runs to choose from), but it solves the problem of having to sub maps for this competition (which is, I think, what's slowing it down the most).