N v2.0... it's finally out!

[mistaken72]

This is going to be an absolutely stupid question, but how the fuck do I access the editor and high scores? The only options in my main menu are Resume Game, Play Game, Levels, Help, Settings, Credits and Story.

I know in the old N I always used to use \ or ~ to access the editor but that doesn't work here, so any help would be very much appreciated, thanks!

[EddyMataGallos]

Both are in levels menu. "metanet levels" tab for highscoring, "editor" tab for editor.

[乳头的早餐谷物]

Also you have to be logged in.

[DraxoBox]

How do I download N 2.0? I can't figure it out no matter how many times I visit the site :(

[乳头的早餐谷物]

[29403]

I fucking love how easy 88-4 is.

[Mohit_Ghune]

Hahahaha... agree with 29403

[twright9789]

Help! I have a mac and anytime I try to download N game v2 it says the file is damaged and will not work. What am I doing wrong?

[ska]

Are you 100% sure you've downloaded the mac version?

[乳头的早餐谷物]

From the blog comments:

M&R:

It looks like we have a lot of bugs to fix! Thanks for letting us know everyone, sorry about the mac build… it runs on our iMac but that’s about all we have to test it on

karmap0lice:

So for everyone who cannot use the Mac version, go to your:
system preferences (settings) > security & privacy > unlock* (bottom left corner, needs sign-in) > allow applications from ‘Anywhere’.

If you haven’t locked changes on your computer then skip this step

This worked for me

[squibbles]

So we have to be logged in to use the editor, but attempting to log in throws me this:

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Error #2044: Unhandled ioError:. text=Error #2032: Stream Error. URL: http://bucket.thewayoftheninja.org/news.xml?RND=2031372215717261
	at com.metanet.ui::NewsTicker()
	at NewsTickerRegion()
	at flash.display::Sprite/constructChildren()
	at flash.display::Sprite()
	at flash.display::MovieClip()
	at MenuScreen()
	at NMediator/showScreen()
	at NMediator/showMainMenu()
	at org.robotlegs.base::EventMap/routeEventToListener()
	at MethodInfo-119()
	at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
	at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
	at org.robotlegs.mvcs::Command/dispatch()
	at com.metanet.commands::CheckLaunchDetails/checkAutolaunch()
	at com.metanet.commands::CheckLaunchDetails/execute()
	at org.robotlegs.base::CommandMap/execute()
	at org.robotlegs.base::CommandMap/routeEventToCommand()
	at MethodInfo-143()
	at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
	at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
	at org.robotlegs.mvcs::Mediator/dispatch()
	at NMediator/onRegister()
	at org.robotlegs.base::MediatorBase/preRegister()
	at org.robotlegs.base::MediatorMap/registerMediator()
	at org.robotlegs.base::MediatorMap/createMediatorUsing()
	at org.robotlegs.base::MediatorMap/mapView()
	at AppContext/startup()
	at org.robotlegs.mvcs::Context/checkAutoStartup()
	at org.robotlegs.mvcs::Context()
	at AppContext()
	at N/handleAddedToStage()
	at flash.display::DisplayObjectContainer/addChild()
	at flash.display::Stage/addChild()
	at Preloader/enterFrame()

Do we have a fix for this one? I'm stuck halfway through a collab. :S

EDIT: It appears that this error actually just appears on it's own accord. I opened the game, left it idle, and when I came back it had appeared. I still cannot log in or find any levels through the levels menu, though. :/

[999_Springs]

latest version with a bunch of bug fixes

i've updated the list of bugs and stuff to match m&r's post though i haven't tested everything out yet

[EddyMataGallos]

Well you can add this one, as I just posted on the blog:

"I found a little bug, not that it matters at all though. After logging in, the “logged in!” notice stays onscreen forever, rather than going upwards until it dissapears (only noticeable in fullscreen)."

[Franklint]

Hi guys,

New member, excited that version 2 is out! Question: I have N version 1.4, and nearly finished all the episodes (I just had two to go). The game isn't compatible with Mac anymore, so I'm wondering whether there is a way to transfer my .sol save file into the new version 2. Any ideas? Are the levels even the same?

Cheers,
Franklint

[Tekeur]

Hi guys,

New member, excited that version 2 is out! Question: I have N version 1.4, and nearly finished all the episodes (I just had two to go). The game isn't compatible with Mac anymore, so I'm wondering whether there is a way to transfer my .sol save file into the new version 2. Any ideas? Are the levels even the same?

Cheers,
Franklint

Hi Franklint :) , no the levels are different on N Game V2.0 so there's no way to import V 1.4 progress to V 2.0 (actually V2.0 levels are a mix of V1.4 levels and new levels)

[Franklint]

Hi Franklint :) , no the levels are different on N Game V2.0 so there's no way to import V 1.4 progress to V 2.0 (actually V2.0 levels are a mix of V1.4 levels and new levels)

Thanks a lot for the response, Tekeur! Do you know if version 1.4 could be updated to work on newer Macs? I'd like to finish off my game before starting v.2.0!

Cheers,
Franklint

[999_Springs]

not sure if this will work but try NReality (a fan-made 2007 release that is so much cooler than v1.4), it uses flash nine

[panstromek]

Hi guys, I've got some questions about new version. Some of them were asked before but not answered.

1. Why isn't your scores and replays from original episodes and levels (found in PLAY GAME) somewhere to watch and in LEVELS it says: (you have not beaten this level) (and that's not true, I beated full game)
2. Why isn't score the time value like in previous versions of N? I liked that system because that value really says something and you know how faster you must be or how many gold would be better to pick up (In really hard levels).
3. When I click in user levels on unrated, it shows levels, that I already rated. Why?
4. Why levels you publish disappear from list in editor? So you cannot make similar levels, or correct some.
5. Why is searching levels acting so weird? I mean, when I (for example) type only one letter and click on [title], found levels doesn't have this letter in title. (It's not only this, there are some other similar problems)
6. Why isn't somewhere written your score from survival?
7. What "flag" means? (maybe it is stupid, but I really don't know)
8. Why cannot you play replay of level where you don't have higscore? (frequently asked one)

And some things that would be good. I don't want to criticize, I really love new version. I just want to point out some ideas, which comes to your mind when you play it.

1. I miss something like button: Show only not beated levels in user levels menu or: Show only not played levels. I sometimes want to play popular levels but I played most of them before, so I must go to far page of the list every time.
2. When new user levels system works like some kind of news feed, It would be good to have some kind of profile that shows levels you created, levels you beated and other game things.. (or just numbers, something like statistics.). You can find authors levels, thats only thing can you do.
3. Comments on levels would be also good, but that was written here before.

Nothing meant as critic. As I said I really love it, I play N for 10 years (maybe more) and I'm big fan of it and I think that v2.0 is really big step.

[EddyMataGallos]

Hi guys, I've got some questions about new version. Some of them were asked before but not answered.

1. Why isn't your scores and replays from original episodes and levels (found in PLAY GAME) somewhere to watch and in LEVELS it says: (you have not beaten this level) (and that's not true, I beated full game)
2. Why isn't score the time value like in previous versions of N? I liked that system because that value really says something and you know how faster you must be or how many gold would be better to pick up (In really hard levels).
3. When I click in user levels on unrated, it shows levels, that I already rated. Why?
4. Why levels you publish disappear from list in editor? So you cannot make similar levels, or correct some.
5. Why is searching levels acting so weird? I mean, when I (for example) type only one letter and click on [title], found levels doesn't have this letter in title. (It's not only this, there are some other similar problems)
6. Why isn't somewhere written your score from survival?
7. What "flag" means? (maybe it is stupid, but I really don't know)
8. Why cannot you play replay of level where you don't have higscore? (frequently asked one)

And some things that would be good. I don't want to criticize, I really love new version. I just want to point out some ideas, which comes to your mind when you play it.

1. I miss something like button: Show only not beated levels in user levels menu or: Show only not played levels. I sometimes want to play popular levels but I played most of them before, so I must go to far page of the list every time.
2. When new user levels system works like some kind of news feed, It would be good to have some kind of profile that shows levels you created, levels you beated and other game things.. (or just numbers, something like statistics.). You can find authors levels, thats only thing can you do.
3. Comments on levels would be also good, but that was written here before.

Nothing meant as critic. As I said I really love it, I play N for 10 years (maybe more) and I'm big fan of it and I think that v2.0 is really big step.

1. You can't watch your own replays because theres no feature to do that, the only way is to be fast enough to make the leaderboards, and you'll be able to see it clicking "watch". Also, for a score to appear on the "levels" menu, you have to beat them via the levels menu, so, you have to complete them again. Beating them via the "play game" menu doesnt' count, thats considered only as a way to beat the game, not to care about the scores. Just rebeat the ones you want to highscore in. I know, sounds weird, thats just how it works now.

2. This system "says" the same as the previous one, though I do agree I miss the old one. The current score is the regular time left, but in frames, so, since the game runs at 60fps, if you had 100 seconds left, you score will be 6000. And every piece of gold gives you an extra 120 frames (2 secs you know).

3. I have no idea about that, might be a bug, might be that your own vote doesnt count, maybe others can answer this.

4. and 5. Sorry Im not a mapper so I have no idea, might be bugs?

6. Survivals can't have scores as you never beat the level and the game can't register it, should be able as its easy to implement, but its not. Usually you have to do it manually by looking at the demo data, dunno how that works in N2.0 though.

7. Flagging a run means marking it as bad or cheated. If you ever find a run that seems to have been cheated (I mean, having been done by a cheater, NOT having been done using a glitch or bug or something like that, which is legit), or thats just simply broken, you can flag it, and it will be checked later. Be careful not to accidentally flag many legit runs though, doing that repeatedly could bring some trouble to you (I think).

8. I think thats the first half of your 1. question, so the answer is there, in the first half of my answer to your 1. question.

And finally I doubt you have played N for over 10 years, or maybe more, since it was released 9 years ago, 8 for the final version. Doesnt' really matter though, just being picky. Welcome to the community.

[panstromek]

Thanks for welcoming! :) looks like I counted it wrong. I don't know release date, I just remember some time when I played it for the first time.

1. Thanks, but even if I take it, theres no way how to play episodes for highscores (like in 1.4), that was good thing. Splitting full game to the episodes doesn't make any sense, it is useless, when they cannot be played for higscore. Anyway, I think that this new way is stupid and I can't imagine any real reason, why it was changed.
2. Thanks for this explanation, this doesn't come to my mind. Not as bad as i thought, this make sense, but only if you know it :).
6. Survivals can have scores. In holiday chalenge it was possible, It is just that time you have at the end.
7. Thanks, I thought it is something like that. And Flaging a level means that this level is not working, am I right? (if it is not a picture one or something like that)
8. In 1.4, it was possible to play replay after every attemt. And in highscores, there was normally your best times of each level and also replay for it. I don't see the point of taking it out.

[Tekeur]

7. Flagging a run means marking it as bad or cheated. If you ever find a run that seems to have been cheated (I mean, having been done by a cheater, NOT having been done using a glitch or bug or something like that, which is legit), or thats just simply broken, you can flag it, and it will be checked later. Be careful not to accidentally flag many legit runs though, doing that repeatedly could bring some trouble to you (I think).

Well I hope it won't bring me trouble because I often hit the "flag" button instead of the "watch" button... They should ask for confirmation each time you hit the flag button, or maybe I'm just too clumsy :P

[EddyMataGallos]

Thanks for welcoming! :) looks like I counted it wrong. I don't know release date, I just remember some time when I played it for the first time.

1. Thanks, but even if I take it, theres no way how to play episodes for highscores (like in 1.4), that was good thing. Splitting full game to the episodes doesn't make any sense, it is useless, when they cannot be played for higscore. Anyway, I think that this new way is stupid and I can't imagine any real reason, why it was changed.
2. Thanks for this explanation, this doesn't come to my mind. Not as bad as i thought, this make sense, but only if you know it :).
6. Survivals can have scores. In holiday chalenge it was possible, It is just that time you have at the end.
7. Thanks, I thought it is something like that. And Flaging a level means that this level is not working, am I right? (if it is not a picture one or something like that)
8. In 1.4, it was possible to play replay after every attemt. And in highscores, there was normally your best times of each level and also replay for it. I don't see the point of taking it out.

1. Yeah, episodes highscores have been deleted, which doesnt make them pointless as their presumed difficulty is that they have to be completed in one go, with the timer not resetting every level. Could be hard for new players on N1.4, although on N2.0 it doesnt really present any real dificulty.

6. I doubt it, since the holidays challenge was not a survival. Im afraid you dont know what a survival is. Its just a map with enemies and NO exit, which purpose is just to try to stay alive as much as possible. Now you can see how the Holiday challenge was far from this, it was just what is called "arcade mode" in N2.0, a bunch of levels and the timer doesnt even reset when you die.

8. Yeah I know, I already answered to that, and I really dont know why the got rid of both those features, they were really useful and cool.

[999_Springs]

2: divide by 60 to get your score in seconds
3: they changed it so that a map needs to have a certain number of votes (i think 5) for it to be counted as rated, just like we did on numa for v1.4
5: it's whole word search only and it appears to work for words of three letters or more, maybe m&r will improve on the search function. yeah i agree that it's a bit primitive
6: it's called arcade mode not survival, and m&r haven't created a leaderboard for it yet, maybe they will do later, but they have to first fix the glitch where you quit after dying and restart with the same time you had earlier
8: that's a suggestion

also for map profiling, for v1.4 we had numa for custom user profiles and nreality scoreboards for scores and completion statistics. maybe you know this already. m&r are still trying to see how they can improve v2.0 but they're really behind on schedule because they keep procrastinating on everything and it's annoying, but be patient

edit: eddy stop posting when i'm posting ugh

edit edit: so apparently i heard that all the members of take that are really small in real life except for howard who's sixteen feet tall and uses mirrors to make him appear the same height as the rest of the band... wat

[panstromek]

Thanks

6. Yes, I meant arcade mode, I thought that it is called survival, too (someone has named it like this somewhere), sorry for misunderstanding.

And yes, I know Numa, I meant something included in the game. Someone wrote it in this thread before me, it is nothing new. I'm just getting nervous because a play it every day and everyday i see again what I miss in the game. Then I see the forum and pages but it seems to be sleeping for me :). Sometimes I see awesome created level and I would like to say good word to author but there's no way how to do that.

[MiBeM]

Recently played through all the episodes of 2.0, and also did a couple highscores (literally a couple, two actually) with the name Molenator. I liked a few things and also disliked quite a few things.

Likes:
-high framerate, smooth gameplay
-bounceblocks are much better than before
-fun and challenging levels in the user level columns

Dislikes/criticisms:
-not sure if high-speed cornerjumps are impossible or just ridiculously hard to pull off, haven't been able to do one myself. (could be just super hard because the framerate is higher so there's less time you're actually touching the corner before you bounce off) In my opinion cj's were a pretty important part of speedrunning and highscoring on a lot of levels and I would like to see them made possible/easier again somehow.
-preferred the old leaderboard layout and the top 20 instead of top 10 (it was a bit easier to get to top 20 and feel really good about yourself but the competition for higher spots was still very tough)
-sometimes after I use the resume game button the timer glitches so that when you die it doesn't reset to what you had at the start of the run and instead just keeps going down until it hits 0 and you die
-metanet levels were less challenging, less diverse and less fun to speedrun than in the original
-lack of speedrun mode which I would personally enjoy a lot more than highscore (obviously this was an issue with the original as well)

N v2.0 was overall an enjoyable experience and a technical improvement to v1.4, but I still enjoy Nreality more because of speedrun mode and better levels.

I'll give it a rating of 8/10.

I know I'm a bit late with this "review" but I haven't been actively looking at the N forums in a while and only a couple of weeks ago discovered the existence of 2.0.