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Postby Nexx » 2009.03.28 (08:13)

I just found this and it's quite nice. It feels a little more cluttered than Hermes, but it's nicer overall, so I'm going to leave it on. Thumbs up from me! Good work, guys! :)

Potential bug: All pinned threads in which I have posted show the "read" (lighter) icon that indicates the thread has been read.
Chase wrote:We know about that one too. But I don't know how that can be fixed. It's a custom plugin so...
Shouldn't LV be able to help with that?

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Postby Nexx » 2009.03.28 (17:41)

(Sorry for the double post, but I felt this would be too long for an edit to the first post.)

In regards to this:
Chase wrote:Right, Stop bringing up issues that have already been brought up. This is really getting annoying and now you should only post a bug that has not yet been found.

You hear?
You've got 2 options:
(1) Either make some sort of running Bug List showing all bugs discovered (and preferably also their fix status), or
(2) Expect and tolerate us bug-reporters giving overlapping reports.

Without some sort of Bug List, people who are just discovering this topic can't know what's been discovered and what hasn't. You should not expect people to read through a 7-page thread to see if one or two issues have been brought up before they post themselves. Tbh, that is what I did, but it was annoying. (I was curious about the rather obvious black boxes around member names, but after seeing the quoted post above, I decided to look for the answer instead of asking. It took a fair amount of looking to find it.)

So yeah, I say make a definitive list for all to see. :)

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Postby Chase » 2009.03.28 (19:22)

Generally most of the information has already been posted in the thread already Avarin, and then gets posted again. This is generally the user's fault for not reading to begin with, but still I'll run a list. Also the Pinned threads are fine to me, maybe it's just your end at the time, check back in a while.

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  • Search Box Stretches Abnormally
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Postby Tunco » 2009.03.28 (20:32)

Chase wrote:Tunco, I'd like to see you make something like this, have fun.

This is Beta 1, Beta 2, otherwise known as ChromeWide, is coming soon.
But,hey,nobody said you this will be easy.
And I can't wait for the update,I might use it after the update.
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Postby Nexx » 2009.03.28 (20:42)

Chase wrote:Generally most of the information has already been posted in the thread already Avarin, and then gets posted again. This is generally the user's fault for not reading to begin with, but still I'll run a list.
You really expect everyone to read through a 6-page thread just to see if their bug has been mentioned yet? Well, you shouldn't. You ask for bug reports, and people will give them to you. If you don't set up an organized system for handling that, of course it will get annoying. In any case, surely such a list will also help you guys with debugging, no?

But anyway, thank you for making a list. Though I would advise you to move it to the first post. (Sorry if I'm annoying, I'm just trying to help out!)
Chase wrote:Also the Pinned threads are fine to me, maybe it's just your end at the time, check back in a while.
Example: I just made a comment in the NReality main thread (and no one else has yet posted). Meanwhile, I haven't checked the Map-Rating Thread in ages. They both have the same icon:
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I also don't understand why some of the thread titles are black while others are gray. Both of the ones in my above example are gray, while others on the list are black. This seems like an intentional feature, so that's why I'm asking rather than saying it's a bug.

Lastly, on page 5, GForce mentioned dashed underlines on links. For me, there aren't any underlines at all - links just look like normal text. Is this intentional? In any case, I definitely think it should be rectified in some way.

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Postby Chase » 2009.03.28 (22:11)

The black ones you haven't viewed, while the grey ones you have. Also most people don't read the first post, as this thread was originally the dev thread.

Can I ask, what browser are you using?
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Postby smartalco » 2009.03.29 (00:06)

Chase wrote:The black ones you haven't viewed, while the grey ones you have. Also most people don't read the first post, as this thread was originally the dev thread.
I'm actually annoyed by this, as generally when looking over threads, I'm looking for if their are new posts. Obviously if you haven't ever read the thread, there will be new posts. If you have read the thread, and their are new posts, the only difference between them and the threads you have read with no new posts is roughly a 10x20px area that doesn't have very much contrast.
ie: make all thread links the same color, and enlarge the arrow
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Postby Nexx » 2009.03.29 (05:56)

Chase wrote:The black ones you haven't viewed, while the grey ones you have.
Well I've viewed all of the ones on my screenshot, considering I've made posts in all of them, so it can't be that simple. I thought it might be "viewed recently", but I haven't posted in some of the gray threads in a long time. So I still don't understand.
Chase wrote:Also most people don't read the first post, as this thread was originally the dev thread.
When I found this thread, the first thing I did was read the first post. Furthermore, you have already gone through the trouble of editing your first post to say "EDIT: Post your bugs here people. etc etc" But whatevs, if you don't want to put it there that's your prerogative.
Chase wrote:Can I ask, what browser are you using?
Firefox 3.0.8

Also, do you still contend that pinned topics that you have posted in show "new posts" and "no new posts" icons correctly? If so, would you mind providing a screenshot? I'd just like to see what it looks like.

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Postby KinGAleX » 2009.03.29 (06:27)

A couple extremely minor things, which I'm not sure may be done.

1. Is there a possibility for adding a Mark Forums Read button to the View New Posts page?
2. When viewing a topic or View New Posts, there's no indication of which page of the topic I'm currently on, in the "1, 2, 3 ..." series of pages at the bottom right. Any chance a different colour may be used for the active page? I realise it's pretty trivial, as you can look to the left to figure it out, but I can't say I'm used to that.

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Postby Chase » 2009.03.29 (14:24)

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  • 1. There's something like that on the Index if that's what you mean, or for individual forums?
  • 2. Next to the upper Add Reply button and lower Page Numbers (For me) it seems that it says Page 1 of 7. But I see what you mean, maybe italicising it or something would help.
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I realise I've been acting a bit of an ass with this, probably because of the fact that the original people who have been posting have been bringing up very trivial things about the skin which are not essential, this has made be very annoyed that people want things fixing so their sig looks right for example. As you can imagine Pembie, or myself don't want people complaining about something because of such a small thing like that. Also here's a screenshot from Firefox 3.0.7 (The update hasn't been installed yet). When you post in a thread the icon continues to be grey, when someone else posts in a thread after you do or you haven't viewed the most recent post, it will become more saturated. Also I don't know where you're getting that line from either... I have had problems with the skin on my side for some odd reason which clearing the cache does nothing about, it's very odd.

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Postby smartalco » 2009.03.29 (17:45)

Avarin wrote:Well I've viewed all of the ones on my screenshot, considering I've made posts in all of them, so it can't be that simple. I thought it might be "viewed recently", but I haven't posted in some of the gray threads in a long time. So I still don't understand.
I believe, and Chase would have to confirm here, that the thread links are just the two different styles in the CSS doc dealing with links that have been visited and links that have been not. Since the title only links to the index page, the link will only show up gray if you have visited the index page and it is still in your browsers history. If your browser only keeps its history for 2 weeks, then after 2 weeks, the link will turn black.
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Postby Nexx » 2009.03.29 (20:39)

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You're still not quite understanding the problem. In your screenshot above, there are no icons with:
(1) a red "flag" (indicating the thread is pinned),
(2) a piece of gold (indicating you've posted in it), and
(3) a darker, more saturated color (indicating there are new posts).

All the icons in your picture (and on my end as well) lack at least one of those characteristics. From my end, mostly it's just (3) that's missing. But then that's the important one. :P

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Postby Chase » 2009.03.30 (10:53)

Wait a minute, are you browsing newest posts? That may explain it.

Check in a subforum normally, see what happens then.

Also, all icons have said red flag, the threads I have posted in have the gold piece, and the threads I have read are faded. So I don't know where you're coming from either.
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Postby smartalco » 2009.03.31 (20:03)

Just a little nitpick that may or may not have to do with the skin at all (I think it is just forum wide)
Is it really necessary to know the minute that someone joined the forums in the info under their avy? 'Sep. 26th 2008' would be enough info on mine, joining at 3:35pm is kinda irrelevant, just noticed this as on most, the line wraps, forcing the next part of the info down some
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Postby Nexx » 2009.04.01 (02:50)

Chase wrote:Wait a minute, are you browsing newest posts? That may explain it.

Check in a subforum normally, see what happens then.
It's the same. :(
Chase wrote:Also, all icons have said red flag, the threads I have posted in have the gold piece, and the threads I have read are faded. So I don't know where you're coming from either.
Hm. I don't know how much plainer I can make it, but I'll give it a go.

There is a pinned thread. I post in it. Someone else posts after me. I do an egosearch ("View your posts"), and next to that thread I see an icon. That icon should have a flag, a gold piece, and be dark.

In your image (I won't bother reposting it again), judging by the icons only, the are only two types of threads that you're seeing: pinned ones that you've posted in that don't have new posts, and pinned ones that you haven't posted in that do have new posts. There are no pinned threads that you've posted in that also have new posts (judging only by the icons). Now perhaps that's true of the threads in your screenshot, but it's not true of most of the threads in my screenshot.

Is that any clearer?

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Postby Chase » 2009.04.01 (17:17)

Ok I've posted in a thread that's pinned (Desktop thread). I will look at that later to see what's happened to it.
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Postby Sniperwhere » 2009.04.01 (22:03)

It's rather horizontally challenged, but that may just be the computer I'm using.

Other than that, looks awesome.

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Postby Chase » 2009.04.05 (21:36)

Yeah I see we're missing the New Post Pinned Posted Already Image. It will be added to v1 when it's released (The original beta was v0.5, this is v0.5.5)
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Postby Nexx » 2009.04.05 (22:43)

Chase wrote:Yeah I see we're missing the New Post Pinned Posted Already Image. It will be added to v1 when it's released (The original beta was v0.5, this is v0.5.5)
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Postby Rikaninja » 2009.04.08 (01:50)

Also does the diagonal clip thing mean pinned? I never realised what they meant on any skin. The skin is coming along nicely, good to see you (Chase) and Pembie working on this exceptionally well. I've already used to it even though I'm not using Chrome the whole time I'm on the forums.

1. The only thing that I have trouble with is the thread icons. They are too complex and messy, and for someone who has been using the simple icons off Hermes it all seems to hard to understand. I am saying this because I am a rookie, and there are a lot of rookies out there with using new skins. The icons are hard to read and I have to refer to the LEGEND at the bottom of the page every time I scroll the forums, the gray and black text isn't helping either.

2. KinGAleX mentioned th problem with scrolling pages. Chase, I think that problem could also be referring to when you are browsing pages in a forum looking for a thread to click on. Sorry if that's what he meant aswell.

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Postby Nexx » 2009.04.08 (06:16)

Rikaninja wrote:1. The only thing that I have trouble with is the thread icons. They are too complex and messy, and for someone who has been using the simple icons off Hermes it all seems to hard to understand. I am saying this because I am a rookie, and there are a lot of rookies out there with using new skins.
It's not just you, Rikaninja. The complexity of the icons is a big much, even without that missing icon. Hermes icons are just so straightforward - I love 'em.

Anyway, I figure I should give more specific feedback, so I'll give it a shot even though it's been a while since I looked at the skin. I would advise you to keep the locked and pinned elements as small as possible while still standing out. As a big "view my posts"-er, I think most of the icon should be devoted to "new" or "not new", but the other elements (pinned and locked) should still stand out enough to be clear at a glance for browsing threads that are new to the user.

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Postby Chase » 2009.04.08 (13:28)

Well the clip icon is actually meaning there's an attachment. It's identical in Hermes.

Also I tried to keep the colour scheme of the icons as similar to the old forums as possible, obviously a few changes had to be made but I improved on the old icon set. Those who never were a part of the old forums may see this as a drastic change.
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Postby Tunco » 2009.04.10 (19:41)

Yes, it's nice but I want to tell you about some other things.
I'm going to make a list here for easier reading.(edited post.)
1.Quoting
One of the most things that annoy me is that when you are going to quote, there is no scrolling part, it just shows all of the posts before you at your page.It's bad when you're going to quote a post on another page, and very annoying.
2.Legend
And the Legend part.It's very complicated, topic titles, you have to look to the Legend every time. And one proble with the Board İndex.When you look to the "Statics" and the "Bithdays" part you can see that the font is too big. Make the font small.
3.Board İndex
Another problem with the Board İndex page is, when you look to Numa sign and Metanet sign(the Big "M") it's way too big.What I suggest you is to make it smaller. And the user legend part. Admins, Global Mods, Mods, and Registered Users. The user names it self is bigger than the name of the user groups in legend part. The names of the users is on the name of the user groups.( a little,when you look carefully ). And it's very annoying that the name of the registered users on the board index is bigger than the Registered "Users sign". I think you should make it (the Registered Users sign and the Legend sign) big as the "Statics" and "Birthdays" part so it would look nicely. Or you can do it in another way, make the "Statics" and "Birthdays" sign smaller, same size as the "Legend" and "Registered Users" sign.

And I'm not try to make this post bigger but I have another problem.

This may be like personal opinion, but I think a lot of people will think like that. The "Display Topics From Previous" ; at right of it, there is some choices for sorting.It looks not very good middle of the dark part.White and soft black does not looks like in my personal opinion. And same as the legend part, when you click on a topic ( news, exc...) the legend part's colour is not looking nice with the soft black.

I hope this was helpful.Maybe some of them were my personal opinion, but I wanted to tell.Nice skin, just need to be fixed.
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Postby T3chno » 2009.04.10 (22:16)

Dear god...organize that wall of text please. Perhaps into a list for easier reading. O_o

Also, I think the sign of the "M" if perfect. It's the logo and should stand out so.
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Postby Tunco » 2009.04.10 (22:33)

Techno wrote:Dear god...organize that wall of text please. Perhaps into a list for easier reading. O_o

Also, I think the sign of the "M" if perfect. It's the logo and should stand out so.
Next time, I will organize.
And the "M". At least you can make it smaller, because there are 2 "M" 's.At top and bottom. It doesn't looks nice.

Edit: Techno , it's edited and easier to read now.
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