Suicide

[otters~1]

I say it's interesting because the reporter who went to meet him expected him to be serene and benevolent, much like Richie is, but they found out he was actually pretty grouchy and didn't ever open up to anyone about it. He doesn't at all give the guys a cup of tea--he scolds them, kinda. It's strange.

This is an amusing juxtaposition of Western and Eastern cultures and temperaments.

[Zephyr]

One of the students at my school suicided recently, he was a few years above me but I know his brother, all I know is that suicide usually brings pain to those still alive, not happiness.

[Rose]

I'm confused and suspicious regarding "happy pills", or more accurately people telling me that they're happy on happy pills. Y'see, I've been on happy pills, and I've had talks with my prescribing physicians about happy pills about what they'll do, and I've gone on to live through the expectations those talks gave me... and I feel I can say confidently that one thing they most definitely do not do is make you happy. They're not stimulants; they are anti-depressants in the most strictly literal sense of the word: they reduce the presence of depressing thoughts by reducing your thinking altogether, under the assumption that you think more often than not thoughts that depress you. They're not bear snuggles and lollipops, but zombie-mode pills. This is why, for example, particularly extroverted people have an increased risk of attempting suicide on anti-depressants -- they are even more depressed in zombie mode than they were without them.
Fortunately, in my case, depression happened to be a mis-diagnosis for the issues my family thought deserved therapy and medication. The final verdict turned out to be ADD, which I'm even more suspicious of, although I didn't remember the full justification that my therapist gave because it ended up blurring into the typical sort of mumbo-jumbo you hear from lazy physicians these days who just jump at the prescription pad the moment they hear the first symptom. His appearance should've clued me in, really. The clinic was pretty low-key and surrounded by all these yoga and chiropractic places, and he had one of those stupid beards that New Agey people wear. I don't know why people think that goatee/moustache style is actually appealing, or makes them look attractive. I guess for some older men that was just what the view of attractive men was when they were young, even though it's so silly now. Obviously, I can only speak for my own generation, but I can't imagine his younger family members not making fun of it, like a daughter of his or something. So he must not have had a daughter my age, otherwise I actually probably would have seen her at some point in his office when I came for my sessions, although it'd be weird to try to pick her up while I'm basically admitting to psychological problems by seeing her father in the first place. Although my brother once picked up a girl while he was in the emergency room, and she didn't even know what he was in there for, so it could have been something terrible. I guess he kept his injury hidden well enough that she didn't see it... which makes you wonder how many people have injuries they hide but walk around with in plain sight. Like, I know my back is almost always in some minor pain, especially when I sit around for a while not moving, like when I'm hunched over a keyboard for hours on end or something. It's hard to believe that chairs and other furniture that aren't ergonomical aren't much worse sellers simply because you'd think people wouldn't buy them if they weren't comfortable, but I guess most people these days are more concerned about appearances than comfort. It's like women and shoes, except on a non-gender-specific level. How long has that been a trend, exactly? Foot binding has been huge in China for centuries, as I understand it, so it's probably been a while. Although God help us if China meaningfully influences other cultures internationally, even if the Middle East probably has the most harmful social norms today. I really do feel sorry for the women there. Ever since the rise of patriarchal societies, women have just had Kablizzy-league luck in every society that followed that example. I think I'd consider myself a feminist, to be honest.
Anyway, my point is, shows like Sex and the City are misguided perversions of any sensible sort of feminist movement, since it only strengthens the harmful stereotypes that need to be done away with in order for women to truly be regarded as equals in our presently patriarchal societies. The Western fashion industry does not "empower" women, but only drives our expectations for them toward a caricature of our already misguided societal views of them.

from the frequent change in focus of this post I can believe that you've been correctly diagnosed with ADD.

His entire post was a joke ._.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

His entire post was a joke ._.

Not the entire post. Just the second paragraph onward.

[ninja143]

Well,
As a child growing up I battled against Depression of the most serious kind. I went from Clinical Depression to Manic Depression in a span of 2 months. I went through 3 psychologists, and even a person who had the same issues as I did from my church. In this time I was so depressed and didn't care, i wanted to end my life. I did attempt to kill myself once and still feel the effects of it now even. When I was diagnosed with Clinical Depression i was given medications to start helping me to heal from the imbalance they thought I had. I changed medications 5 times in a span of a year. I went from going to the doctors every week to every other week and each time I was given new medications. each time I was given a higher dose, each time made sicker. It got so bad being on the drugs that I didn't care anymore. I just wanted to go some place and hide from the pain emotionally and physically. while on the medication i had heartburn, neasea, vomiting, nightmares. It got so bad that i had to go to the hospital once because i felt so sick, nothing was found of course so i was sent home. But i knew that the medications were what caused it. and at that point i said i cant do this anymore. during this time I was talking to the friend from the church. I have never been more mad and hateful towards any other person in my life. I thought he was a good person to talk to, one week he went on vacation and said to call him on a specified day. I did, and got no response.I tried a few times other days and still got nothing. After that I spoke to someone who knew them and she had told me she had spoken to them since they'd gotten back. I found out that he was ignoring my calls and didn't want to see me ever again. So I said I am not going to be like him with depression. I am going to be better than him because he was a jerk. So I took myself off medications knowing that I was stronger than he was. I have been off of medications for 3+ years.

[Vyacheslav]

Woah. Deep.

EDIT: Just remembered one of my professors would always say, "Remember, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem." Then he'd smile at us with a thumbs up.

[Tanner]

Well,
As a child growing up I battled against Depression of the most serious kind. I went from Clinical Depression to Manic Depression in a span of 2 months. I went through 3 psychologists, and even a person who had the same issues as I did from my church. In this time I was so depressed and didn't care, i wanted to end my life. I did attempt to kill myself once and still feel the effects of it now even. When I was diagnosed with Clinical Depression i was given medications to start helping me to heal from the imbalance they thought I had. I changed medications 5 times in a span of a year. I went from going to the doctors every week to every other week and each time I was given new medications. each time I was given a higher dose, each time made sicker. It got so bad being on the drugs that I didn't care anymore. I just wanted to go some place and hide from the pain emotionally and physically. while on the medication i had heartburn, neasea, vomiting, nightmares. It got so bad that i had to go to the hospital once because i felt so sick, nothing was found of course so i was sent home. But i knew that the medications were what caused it. and at that point i said i cant do this anymore. during this time I was talking to the friend from the church. I have never been more mad and hateful towards any other person in my life. I thought he was a good person to talk to, one week he went on vacation and said to call him on a specified day. I did, and got no response.I tried a few times other days and still got nothing. After that I spoke to someone who knew them and she had told me she had spoken to them since they'd gotten back. I found out that he was ignoring my calls and didn't want to see me ever again. So I said I am not going to be like him with depression. I am going to be better than him because he was a jerk. So I took myself off medications knowing that I was stronger than he was. I have been off of medications for 3+ years.

Wait, so why were you depressed? You stopped being depressed, essentially, because you wanted to. Were you depressed for the same reason?

[ninja143]

We did have essentially the same reason for depression, my family has a history of it on my dads side. and so did this guy as well.
I didn't want to be depressed anymore, i didn't want to be weak minded anymore, i didn't want to be like him.

[Tanner]

We did have essentially the same reason for depression, my family has a history of it on my dads side. and so did this guy as well.
I didn't want to be depressed anymore, i didn't want to be weak minded anymore, i didn't want to be like him.

Well, that's sort of what I'm saying. If your dad's side of the family has a history of depression then it's likely some hereditary neurochemical problem and has nothing to do with being "weak-minded". I guess what I'm wondering is whether you think you were just being weak-minded (read: you were depressed because you choose to be) or if you think it really does have something to do with family. Third choice, of course, is something happened to you in the past to cause this depression. You didn't mention that in your post, though, so I don't think that's the case.

[ninja143]

mostly the reason i had depression was because i did feel weak minded, and the other was that i had no friends going through school. everyone that i knew knew me from elementary, which was an awkward time for anyone but i never really had any friends and i grew up faster in the mind than the kids around me. my sisters are older than me and i always wanted to spend time with them but was always pushed away for being too young. so i thought that if i was more mature they would accept me better. so kids thought i was weird because i didn't do the same things they did, i didn't think the same way they did. this in there minds made me weird and hated. so in junior high it got even worse, and i was disliked even more. this caused me to be depressed. and was heightened in high school due to the fact that i was forced to do Marching Band even though I didn't like doing it. i was forced by my parents to go to practice and see the people that didn't like me, i was forced to sit next to people that hated me. So there were many things that also went into this.

[SlappyMcGee]

I feel like your post is a "If only more people who were depressed didn't want to be depressed anymore!"

Which makes me legitimately question whether you were "depressed" or just really weak willed. Like, maybe a really ludicrous extension of a placebo effect? Ergo "I know that depression runs in my family and I feel bad. My body will throw some chemicals in there for good measure."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_pregnancy

[ninja143]

well since we did go to a few doctors who all confirmed it was depression as well as tested for imbalances yeah i would say that I have had depression. I just instead of being weak to it, I finally over came the weakness and was determined not to be that way anymore. i still have depression i just don't let it get to me.

[Tanner]

well since we did go to a few doctors who all confirmed it was depression as well as tested for imbalances yeah i would say that I have had depression. I just instead of being weak to it, I finally over came the weakness and was determined not to be that way anymore. i still have depression i just don't let it get to me.

Madeline Drake: [to her son Bobby] Have you ever tried... not being a mutant?
— X2: X-Men United

Joyce Summers: [to her daughter Buffy] Have you ever tried... not being the Slayer?
— Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 2, "Becoming"

ninja143: [to herself] Have you ever tried... not being depressed?
— Metanet Forums, July 08, 2010

[SlappyMcGee]

well since we did go to a few doctors who all confirmed it was depression as well as tested for imbalances yeah i would say that I have had depression. I just instead of being weak to it, I finally over came the weakness and was determined not to be that way anymore. i still have depression i just don't let it get to me.

Right, but you're missing the meat of my post. I'm not saying that you didn't have a chemical imbalance. I'm saying that maybe you were the subconscious cause of the imbalance as opposed to the other way around.

In cases of hysterical pregnancy, women get so excited about the prospect of being pregnant that their hormones actually change in response to that and emulate pregnancy.

"Hysterical Depression". Coined.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

well since we did go to a few doctors who all confirmed it was depression as well as tested for imbalances yeah i would say that I have had depression. I just instead of being weak to it, I finally over came the weakness and was determined not to be that way anymore. i still have depression i just don't let it get to me.

Madeline Drake: [to her son Bobby] Have you ever tried... not being a mutant?
— X2: X-Men United

Joyce Summers: [to her daughter Buffy] Have you ever tried... not being the Slayer?
— Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 2, "Becoming"

ninja143: [to herself] Have you ever tried... not being depressed?
— Metanet Forums, July 08, 2010

Barney Stinson: [to his friends] Whenever I'm depressed, I stop being depressed and be awesome instead.
— How I Met Your Mother

The problem with depression is that you don't have the motivation to not be depressed anymore.

[ninja143]

How do you know? Are you a doctor? Because I know more about myself and whats going on with my body and emotions than you do. There are people who have decided and have become strong willed enough to overcome the depression that consumed them. I dont think you know everything there is to know about depression, you dont know how it feels, what it does, how alone you feel with it. Please dont criticize and scrutinize. Suicide is a very real problem anymore due to the economy, so back off, please. I'm sure that Inspired intended this to be something that was delicate in nature due to the topic.

[SlappyMcGee]

Suicide is a very real problem anymore due to the economy,

You are confusing suicide and depression with sadness. Please grow up.

[Rose]

The problem with depression is that you don't have the motivation to not be depressed anymore.

This.

[origami_alligator]

Suicide is a very real problem anymore due to the economy, so back off, please.

Suicide has always been a real problem. The economy can be a factor of suicidal thoughts and attempts but it has no direct correlation. Suicide in general has little direct correlation with anything; usually it is a long process that takes years to manifest itself properly in a way that causes someone to feel like there is no hope. People who will commit suicide today probably aren't thinking about the state of the economy. They are probably thinking of their burden to their families and friends. They want to lift that burden. Maybe being unemployed could have something to do with it but that will never be the sole reason that a person would take their own life.