Stalking 101: How to not talk to girls

[Destiny]

The point is that you wouldn't be having these kinds of problems if you were 20. ;)

*Ahem*

Did Suki just get owned? I think he did.

*Bows to smartalco*

[Vyacheslav]

smartalco = God.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

Dude, meeting people and finding action when I want it is not a problem for me, and neither do I have high school-league angst about girls.

[smartalco]

Right, you just have college angst about not being able to find a meaningful relationship.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

Yeah, well I don't even have to listen to you because you're not my real mom anyway.

[origami_alligator]

Well, they're still teenage love problems. And guess what they're real.
Would it make a difference if I was 20 (therefore no longer a teen) with love problems?

Yes, because by 20 you should know better than to complain about girls not noticing you.

[smartalco]

Yes, because by 20 you should know better than to complain about girls not noticing you.

Because at that age, you just bend over and take it.

[origami_alligator]

Yes, because by 20 you should know better than to complain about girls not noticing you.

Because at that age, you just bend over and take it.

Or you give it to someone who is bending over, but my point is there are two kinds of people in this world and you have to choose which one you're going to be.

[Fol67]

Incoming wisdom teeth, they hurt so bad it's like a trainwreck in my skull, that and I don't even have any dental insurance, and I still have 9 months til' I join the Marine Corp, so until then I have to just tough it out I guess, can hardly study for finals, or take a dook for that matter.

[Donfuy]

Written at around 11pm, May 31st 2010

Listening to Nirvana...not even know what song it is. The PSP's under my table and I feel like it's not important to see what song is playing. Not now. Mom took my cables from the computer. I don't dare to find them. I'm scared. I don't even care for grammar. If anything's wrong, gimme a call. Wait. Oh yeah, I lost my cellphone at the beach. And my other one is broken. My netbook's broken too. Another Nirvana song. I don't even know what to write. What to think. What to believe. Home should be comfy. It isn't. Not now. I feel bad for thinking that I'm going to post this to a forum. I can't send to my friends. What would they call me. How would they tag me. Yet another adolescent "depression". Sure, internet will do it too, but at least I'm far away. Far away. Heh. Funny. That's how I feel about my future. Well actually my prospect of future is not far away. It's non-existant. What do I wanna do? silence invades my brain. Kurt's talking about soul. Soul. Soul? What soul? Have I lost it? Not yet. Am I insane/mad? Not yet. My hand hurts. Today I was at the McDonalds and noticed that I was shaking. My hand was shaking as I picked up the fries. I tell her to stop shaking. She wouldn't. What's happening to me? What am I afraid of? I don't think there's much more to lose now. I have my friends. Friends. Do I really have them? Do they really care about me? Wait. Does anyone? "Sure. Your parents.". Obvious answer. "Don't worry, your friends worry about you. There are people who believe in you". Hope, this is what is is. Hope. Nothing but hoping that they care. Everyone. Let's suppose they do. How much would cost them to show it to me? Theeeere you go. "Haha an adolescent who thinks people should give him more attention. Oh man never seen that happen ever". My mom... I dunno if I should tell you this. To anyone. To anyone. Well fuck it. She flew away from home. Some hours ago. In rage. "YOU. ARE KILLING ME." she cried as she destroyed everything in her path. This is not funny. I dunno where she is. We don't know. My brother doesn't seem to care. My dad tries to hide. I try to hide. I can't stop thinking about what I am. My identity. What should I do. Comfy in Nautica. Yeah of course you are comfy. You found what you wanna do. Innopportune fucking Bear. I envy everyone who does something. Who have motivation. Have goals and FIGHT for it. Three exams ahead. Haven't studied. God how I hate studying. How I would love to be one of those guys. The guys who seem to not be making an effort to study. I envy those too. That'd be all I want. Fuck love. Not lucky? Not apt? Right now it's just a distraction. Maybe it's a distraction cause I spend so much time wanting people to love me. Love me .What a good movie title. Tacky. I bet there are a lot of movies with that title. I saw Amélie yesterday "The Great Destiny of Amélie" I think the movie was called. What a fucking beautiful movie. Probably the best I've seen. I feel like smoking. Some mins ago, before I started writing, I was smoking. What a selfish being I am. I hate being it. Thinking always about Me me me. "Give /me/ love people!". What are you talking about you try and you do give love to other persons. That's what I try to think. Mom calls me selfish for not studying. Cause I'm hurting her. Why should she be the reason for me to study? PRIDE! Hey, Pride and Fight. An awesome song by AnCo. Gonna play it brb. My eyes are semi-open. Just what's needed. Not even the bass motivates me. I don't see future there. And my parents don't seem to care. I like this girl. I dunno if she likes me enough. I dunno if she cares. It's a weird class I'm still trying to fit in. We're always laughing when we talk. Me and that girl. I have no idea if she feels anything. "bla bla ask her bla bla nothing to lose" I don't know her enough. Haven't been with her enough. I think she has a boyfriend already. Oh hey I'm envious again. I really don't know where to turn. Study? What for? Entering Uni? Bah. I hate when I sound suicidal. Cause I'm too afraid to die. That must mean something, right? Maybe there's

H
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inside my heart

awesome part of this song
and I'm out of paper
if i don't post this by the time I get internet, either i'm dead or fixed!

[/spoiler]

Morning June 1st 2010

It's horrible. Can't find strength. Still listening to Nirvana. Still dunno what song it is playing. Oh please how do you skip days. Please. Tuesday's a devil. At home. Nothing to do. I smell like tobacco. Feel powerless. Thought I would be better today. I am not. Kept trying to postpone this moment for some months. Pretending to be okay is the best way. Last time I was..."bad", I didn't. That's probably why this time's so wronge. Ashamed. I wanna turn this around but it feels like it's no longer possible. Impossible. Gah why do I have to be in this stereotype. It's way too common. And there are two ways in these cases. Wait, no. Three ways. Continue to pretend it's all okay (harder and harder as time passes), fixing this and live a happy life forever or... the wrong way. This last way is way too selfish. Maybe if I did it I would be just what people would expect. Heh. Si it's like this order from easier to harder: Pretend > wrong = fix. Mom's back. She say's she's gonna go away. She doesn't want to suffer for us. "You're not worthy of my suffer", she says. She's totally right. Street Flash by AnCo. Cobwebs by AnCo. "I'm not going underground. Are you going underground". If I had my computer right now, pretending to be okay would be much, much easier. I look myself in the mirror. Heh I look like a regular guy. Look I can even smile like a regular dude. "She's gonna have a baby". AnCo. Best song.

Transcribed as it is written on two papers.

First intent was to post this in free writing, as this obeys to the "rules" of that topic. That intent was obviously wrong.

[Pheidippides]

I'm not sure what to say, Donfuy, but you know the dudes at Metanet are here for ya. The fact that we have this thread proves that much. A couple thoughts after reading yours:

1. You say you're not comfortable at home. I think this is almost definitely why you have trouble studying. Is there a library nearby? I know /I/ can't study in my room. Circumstances are admittedly different, but all the same, I can't focus. I find the library is a great place to study; surrounding myself with books and other people who are reading/working seems to put me in the right frame of mind. Maybe you can ask some of your friends and classmates to join you so you can study/bond together. Aside from at practice, I spent the most time with my teammates this year in the library, and that time was both productive and enjoyable. Studying can become significantly easier just by changing your venue. If nothing else, it'll get you out and about for a while and perhaps help you relax.

2. As a very impatient person myself, I can completely sympathize with your impatience over this girl. I agree that if you don't know her well enough yet, don't ask her out. Once you've spent enough time with her, though, don't /keep/ waiting. As I said a few posts/pages ago, you'll probably never be totally ready for it, but that doesn't mean you should let an opportunity go by. You'll have us rooting for you.

I hope this is helpful to you. Good luck.

[otters~1]

Get out of the house, Donfuy. Since you aren't comfortable there, can't relax, can't have fun -- go outside. Walk somewhere. Meet people, sit it the park, go to a library, jog, nap outside. Take it from someone who's experienced at dodging his parents after they've thrown him out ... best thing you can do is get away from it all.

Another thing you might try is less Nirvana. Cobain's music is unbelievably depressing; you're just feeding the cycle.

[Donfuy]

Go where? I live in a...farm. Away from the city. I don't have the driver's license. School's over today. I'll probably be at home till the exams.

So hum... yeah. Can't run from it.

[otters~1]

Go where? I live in a...farm.

That's fine. Actually that's perfect -- I assume there's some open country around your house, so explore it.

[capt_weasle]

It turns out my ex girlfriend *was* a prude. One of my friends thought she was one for the longest time, but I just reassured her with, "She's just never been in a relationship before, she'll get comfortable with everything." Well, two months after she dumps me I find out my friend was right. It turns out she didn't enjoy being intimate. She told my friend (mutual between the both of us) that she felt being sexually intimate was obligatory, and she was never actually turned on by *anything*. Hell, apparently she even tried pleasuring herself and she *fell asleep.* In the words of my friend, "Who the fuck falls asleep doing that!?" My ex, I suppose. So while I'm reassured I wasn't necessarily doing anything wrong, it meant that she never felt - over a year of dating, one "I'd like to marry you one day" conversation, and countless "I love you"'s later - close to me outside of a "best friends" zone. She lied to me. She told me communication was the most important thing in a relationship and when she thought our relationship was going downhill she never said a word. We could have worked things out. Talked more, hung out more. But she didn't think we could fix it. She was incredibly selfish. She's extremely Liberal yet she also describes herself and her family as being, "old-fashioned." She wants to be Ms. Independent takes-no-shit-from-men, yet at the same time wants them to cater to her every whim. I don't mind paying for a girl. I'm not stingy, I have a steady (ish) income. I can pay for meals, and I'm glad to do it. But when you expect it, when you tell me, "I'll pay for this meal (some random lunch at Subway) this one time, but don't expect me to offer very often," I die a little on the inside. You say you appreciate me paying, but I can see the hatred and judgment in your eyes if I hope you might offer to pay, because I just emptied my bank account paying for college. Also, don't tell me you never have money when a) you have a job, b) your school payments add up to about $500 a year (mine is around $5,000), c) You get $100 a month from your grandmother, and d) your parents pay for everything I don't (gas, car payments, groceries, trips to NYC that I can't go to because I can't afford it). Where the fuck does all your money go? You also complained to me about me never coming down on major holidays. You know what? You never went out of your way to see me and my family. Why the hell should I abandon my family on Christmas to come see yours? You never wanted to get involved with mine. Hell, you broke up with me the day before my mothers birthday. She was in the middle of chemotherapy. The last thing she needs is a torn up son on her birthday. I'm sorry I was never the clone of the man your sister married. I don't come from a wealthy family. I don't have the callousness to abandon my family on holidays for the sake of seeing yours. I would love to see your family, but not if it means I can't see mine and you won't see mine. Thanks for having that dream where I told you that, "Now that we aren't dating, I have so much more money!" because it's true. I'm not cheap, but I'm also not your fucking butler. I was your boyfriend. *Was*. Now I can move on and know that that isn't what a real relationship is. Perhaps the next girl I meet will actually love me and not be lying about it. Perhaps she won't pay for meals, but she'll appreciate that I do. Fuck, perhaps she'll actually enjoy being intimate with her boyfriend.

[Torex]

Man, I really don't like feeling like this. So, school ended last week. One of my friends, I really liked her. But I never had the guts to actually say anything to her since we were already such good friends. Now, we're going off into different high schools. Ever since the last day of school, I can't stop thinking about her. I kinda had a feeling that she liked me back, but I wasn't sure about this, and like I said, we were already good friends so I didn't want to say anything. Now that school's over, I feel bad about not doing anything, and I can't stop wondering whether she did like me back, and I can't stop listening to Lonely Day by System of a Down and Stop Crying Your Heart Out by Oasis. Also, I had a dream about her the other night, which really makes me feel like an idiot.

I don't know if anyone can say anything to console me, but I just felt like I had to tell this to someone who would listen.

[Vyacheslav]

Time is the best healer.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

Time is the best healer.

Patently false. Untreated wounds become infected and kill you faster if time has its way.
Or in better keeping with the metaphor of wounds for emotional stress -- taking an active part in resolving the issue is a better solution than waiting it out and hoping the problem solves itself.

[Kablizzy]

I'ma resolve my problem all over your face, Suki. Yes, that's a moneyshot reference.

[Destiny]

Man, I really don't like feeling like this. So, school ended last week. One of my friends, I really liked her. But I never had the guts to actually say anything to her since we were already such good friends. Now, we're going off into different high schools. Ever since the last day of school, I can't stop thinking about her. I kinda had a feeling that she liked me back, but I wasn't sure about this, and like I said, we were already good friends so I didn't want to say anything. Now that school's over, I feel bad about not doing anything, and I can't stop wondering whether she did like me back, and I can't stop listening to Lonely Day by System of a Down and Stop Crying Your Heart Out by Oasis. Also, I had a dream about her the other night, which really makes me feel like an idiot.

I don't know if anyone can say anything to console me, but I just felt like I had to tell this to someone who would listen.

Then you don't really have anything to lose if you ask her out now, right? It's only a different high school, after all.

[squibbles]

Man, I really don't like feeling like this. So, school ended last week. One of my friends, I really liked her. But I never had the guts to actually say anything to her since we were already such good friends. Now, we're going off into different high schools. Ever since the last day of school, I can't stop thinking about her. I kinda had a feeling that she liked me back, but I wasn't sure about this, and like I said, we were already good friends so I didn't want to say anything. Now that school's over, I feel bad about not doing anything, and I can't stop wondering whether she did like me back, and I can't stop listening to Lonely Day by System of a Down and Stop Crying Your Heart Out by Oasis. Also, I had a dream about her the other night, which really makes me feel like an idiot.

I don't know if anyone can say anything to console me, but I just felt like I had to tell this to someone who would listen.

Then you don't really have anything to lose if you ask her out now, right? It's only a different high school, after all.

I agree with Destiny 100% here. Go for it. Also, stop listening to Lonely Day. I did the same thing when I was bummed once, and I over played it so bad that I now can't stand any part of it, except that really awesome solo where both guitars are tremolo picking.

[Rose]

When you ignore the quite-frankly-stupid lyrics ("it's a day that I'll never miss"? Come on, Daron Malakian, you're better than that), Lonely Day is one of the best songs of all time. Also, capt_weasle, I've heard of asexual people like that, though as far as I know I've never met one. Sad to hear :(

[Destiny]

When you ignore the quite-frankly-stupid lyrics ("it's a day that I'll never miss"? Come on, Daron Malakian, you're better than that), Lonely Day is one of the best songs of all time. Also, capt_weasle, I've heard of asexual people like that, though as far as I know I've never met one. Sad to hear :(

People who reproduce with themselves?

O_o

[otters]

When you ignore the quite-frankly-stupid lyrics ("it's a day that I'll never miss"? Come on, Daron Malakian, you're better than that), Lonely Day is one of the best songs of all time. Also, capt_weasle, I've heard of asexual people like that, though as far as I know I've never met one. Sad to hear :(

People who reproduce with themselves?

O_o

A. Asexual. Not. People that have no sexual orientation.

[Vyacheslav]

Sexually apathetic?