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Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (04:07)
by Pheidippides
Gah, this happened to me toward the end of the school year. Couldn't access the forums. I was /not/ happy. I just went on at home, but I don't know how to help you in your situation. Unless you just do it covertly. Use Firefox's TabMix Plus to recycle your tabs if you have to close it do to a sudden appearance of a parent? That's about all I've got, unless you want to go direct to your parents and assert that you can be responsible with the computer for a few non-school items.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (04:12)
by blackson
Go to google
Type in FRESH NEW PROXIES
Click on the first result, the google group
Click on the current date
And there you go, 10 new proxies

If you don't know how to use a proxy then, well, you can't be helped.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (05:20)
by t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư
Inspired wrote:In other news I need a new avatar, any takers?
http://forum.therealn.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2714

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (05:47)
by Ampersand
Inspired wrote:Today is a sad day. My school's internet picked up on a stray swear word and decided to ban NUMA (http://www.nmaps.net) for offensive material. ;_; Only the other week it also banned the forums also for containing offensive material. ;_;

The thing that annoys me most is that technically I am not allowed on the computer at home for non school related stuff so school was the only place. If you could help me to get onto NUMA and/or the forums I would be much obliged, sadly proxy sites are out of the question....


In other news I need a new avatar, any takers?
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (07:51)
by Tunco
In my school, it was always closed, forums and Numa.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (08:07)
by Tunco
Inspired wrote:Tunco I don't know whether to trust that link as it looks to be a proxy site which I have said won't do.
Oh, I'm using for years, and trust it, but you don't? Well, logic. :/

And, you nearly don't have any chance of passing those internet blockers without proxies, but that's just imo.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (08:27)
by a happy song
Tunco123 wrote:
Inspired wrote:Tunco I don't know whether to trust that link as it looks to be a proxy site which I have said won't do.
Oh, I'm using for years, and trust it, but you don't? Well, logic. :/

And, you nearly don't have any chance of passing those internet blockers without proxies, but that's just imo.
You're missing the point. He can't implement Poxy servers at school. At least that's what I'm assuming. These kind of privileges tend to be blocked along with everything else or the kids would just negate the issues with a quick google search.


I reckon your best bet would be to either appeal directly to whoever is in charge of your computer lab and try to reason with them by showing them the sites in question, or confronting your parents and asserting your responsibility. I don't see any technical fix for this that's not going to get you in trouble.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (08:34)
by a happy song
Inspired wrote:
I reckon your best bet would be to either appeal directly to whoever is in charge of your computer lab and try to reason with them by showing them the sites in question, or confronting your parents and asserting your responsibility. I don't see any technical fix for this that's not going to get you in trouble.
Hmm, yeah maybe I will have to create a thread of sorts that is school work related that could help my side of the argument.
I wouldn't try to be so devious, your parents could see through it and it could damage your efforts. But then you know how your parents think best, so if you think it'll work that way then give it a shot.

What are their exact reasons for not letting you use the computer for recreational activities?

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (08:42)
by MattKestrel
If you're rich, get a blackberry or something. o_O Getting it without your parents knowing would be another matter enitrely, though.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (08:53)
by EdoI
You should be able to get on the Internet with your cellphone that pretty much everybody have.
However, if you don't have a cellphone, I'll also guess that the computer is in your room, and then it wouldn't be a problem to ocassionally sneak in.
If your parents are often in the room where the computer is get Opera, it has a bin to get back any closed tabs. At the moment someone gets in, close the tab and wait. Also, you can hide Opera into the tray, which can also be helpfull.

Just wondering, how do you access to the Internet now?

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (11:02)
by Brocerius
Could you use a flash drive with your schools computers?

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (11:38)
by Zephyr
My school has always had a stupid filter, but about a year ago some students discovered this thing called Peacefire started by a nice guy named Bennett Haselton. He makes a new proxy site every now and then whenever they are blocked. Example: He makes a proxy site, say http://garbagemart.com/ (One of the actual sites), a few days/weeks later it is blocked by the web filter companies, at that point he mass emails everyone on his email list (You must sign up) the name of the new site (http://rubyfat.com/) , which takes a few more days/weeks to be blocked. This method has proven to be quite efficient against blocking companys.
You can sign up for his mass website URL emails at the Peacefire website or any of the proxys that you are able to access. The latest bypass site is http://www.stupidreader.com/
Bennett Haselton does not spam you, I know this because I have been using his proxys for over a year now.
Sometimes putting https:// instead of http:// at the start of the URL also gets you past the filter, and if you have a USB drive you can try taking a different internet browser to your school and running it from your USB, that also might get you through.

If you are doing things you aren't meant to be doing at home when your parents are home there's a handy program called Bosskey, pressing some keys (that you can set) switches you to a different desktop right away, that way you won't be caught doing anything as long as you have good ears and reflexes. You can store it on your USB if you don't want people to find it by accident. Using bosskey takes you to a COMPLETELY different desktop, nothing minimized will show up or anything.

If these methods don't work, I can't really help you.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (12:29)
by Mae
Yeah, my school blocks every half goddamn decent site, including NUMA and the Forums. And proxies. I actually have no idea why they do, but then again...
Ampersand wrote:GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY.
Hehe, it's all your fault.

My lil trick is to replace the "http://" in the address bar with "https://". Surprisingly, it works! Or at least it does with Megaproxy; I honestly haven't tried on any other site. The thing with Megaproxy, however, is that there's a quota on how much you browse, beyond which this proxy does not go :[ But then again, that would only be a problem after I cap that quota on all sixty-two computers :]

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (20:03)
by smartalco
I'm still curious as to /why/ you can't use a proxy?
Other then that, I remember a few several years back (got damn, middle school has been over 5 years ago), my schools filter could be got around by finding the IP of the domain you are trying to get to, and using that instead of the domain name. To find the IP, just go to the command prompt, and type 'ping <url>' (without the ' and <>'s). Then enter the resulting ip in your browser. This was just on my middle schools rather pathetic filter, which could be got around in quite a few different ways, anything more advanced will probably block this method as well, but I suppose it is worth a shot.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.17 (20:33)
by T3chno
Who doesn't love censorship?

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.18 (16:12)
by otters~1
Lucky bastard. Everything's always blocked at my school. I've got a guy on the inside though... working on some sabotage.

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.18 (17:08)
by Mae
Techno wrote:Who <CENSORED> love <CENSORED>?
Who <CENSORED> love <CENSORED> <CENSORED> it?

-Love, Blizz

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.19 (09:10)
by Drathmoore
Interestingly enough, my brother had a similar encounter with our school. However, this was to do with the BNP's website. Something about him having to research politics in PD, and coming across this site being banned (anyone in the UK, and possibly outside of it as well will know why). And then he got the ban lifted, by arguing that the school was therefore altering the pupil's political views, which is against the Human Rights Act, or something daft like that.

Back on topic, I can see why the forums would be banned. Various experiences with GTM have confirmed this. Several times I've been having to research some Chemistry, with Matt next to me on the forums. Seeing as this is pair work, I can't exactly go on the forums, and have to work my arse off to get the work done.

Thanks GTM.

But, this leads to an interesting disscusion/debate. Of which would be something like "How far should schools control the internet access of it's pupils", or "Should schools block websites, or allow students to have free access to the web; yet punish them for going onto sites they shouldn't be on".

Re: School Internet.

Posted: 2009.06.19 (11:19)
by MattKestrel
Haha. This is going to be a long summer. :P