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I was thinking the other night that in this modern world of ours, can a nerd really be a nerd? For example, Facebook millions of people use it and even online video games like WOW and mw2 have fans from children to adults to the people ypu though never player a video game in their life. I know heaps of people at my high school/college that play games(even girls(not to be sexist)). so what are your thoughts?

IS THERE A REASON WHY IT'S SO BOLD AND BIG SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK.

Yes, but the definition has changed significantly. Now it's ambiguous in a different way.

oxidiza wrote:I was thinking the other night that in this modern world of ours, can a nerd really be a nerd? For example, Facebook millions of people use it and even online video games like WOW and mw2 have fans from children to adults to the people ypu though never player a video game in their life. I know heaps of people at my high school/college that play games(even girls(not to be sexist)). so what are your thoughts?

I like this style of OP.

Anyway, I heard a definition a while back that I think is relevant. A nerd is somebody specialized in a particular thing-- star wars nerd, computer nerd, 1700's in France nerd -- but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films. And with the boon of the internet, everybody wants to believe that they are an expert and that they are deep into the shit that interests them. Which is why every other iPod has a band you would never expect that person to listen to, like a regular person with Lady Gaga, weezer and Jay-Z also having an MF Doom album.

So, in sum, I believe that the internet has perhaps made things that are geek fodder maybe cool again, or maybe just let people feel like they are cool when they are into them.

http://www.xkcd.com/747/

fawk wrote:http://www.xkcd.com/747/

That's really not what we're discussing here.

Edit: well, I guess the alt text is of a little relevance.

I know, just making it clear what's what.

SlappyMcGee wrote:Anyway, I heard a definition a while back that I think is relevant. A nerd is somebody specialized in a particular thing-- star wars nerd, computer nerd, 1700's in France nerd -- but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films. And with the boon of the internet, everybody wants to believe that they are an expert and that they are deep into the shit that interests them. Which is why every other iPod has a band you would never expect that person to listen to, like a regular person with Lady Gaga, weezer and Jay-Z also having an MF Doom album.

So, in sum, I believe that the internet has perhaps made things that are geek fodder maybe cool again, or maybe just let people feel like they are cool when they are into them.

In fawk's defense, I also thought that xkcd comic was the source Slappy was referring to.

ghoulash wrote: In fawk's defense

This has never, EVER, been said. Ever.

I love you.

ghoulash wrote:
SlappyMcGee wrote:Anyway, I heard a definition a while back that I think is relevant. A nerd is somebody specialized in a particular thing-- star wars nerd, computer nerd, 1700's in France nerd -- but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films. And with the boon of the internet, everybody wants to believe that they are an expert and that they are deep into the shit that interests them. Which is why every other iPod has a band you would never expect that person to listen to, like a regular person with Lady Gaga, weezer and Jay-Z also having an MF Doom album.

So, in sum, I believe that the internet has perhaps made things that are geek fodder maybe cool again, or maybe just let people feel like they are cool when they are into them.
In fawk's defense, I also thought that xkcd comic was the source Slappy was referring to.

I reveal that I am Randall Munroe!

I'm more of a geek than a nerd. Geeks are > nerds.

SlappyMcGee wrote: Anyway, I heard a definition a while back that I think is relevant. A nerd is somebody specialized in a particular thing-- star wars nerd, computer nerd, 1700's in France nerd -- but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films.

I had always been told that's how nerd was to be used. Geek on the other hand I had no idea. That's kind of interesting.

but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films.

So geeks are basically hipsters? I've been called nerd/geek many times in my life but I am farrrrrrrr from a hipster.

Ugh. Geeks are NOTHING like those cocky, arrogant, pretentious, and useless hipsters.

SlappyMcGee wrote:Anyway, I heard a definition a while back that I think is relevant. A nerd is somebody specialized in a particular thing-- star wars nerd, computer nerd, 1700's in France nerd -- but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films.

I'm familiar with a different set of definitions.
nerd: someone who puts a high value on and is successful in academia
geek: someone with exceptional aptitude for and/or knowledge of a specific topic, e.g. computer geek, math geek
dork: a socially inept person, esp. one whose frequent social blunders are related to his geekery
dweeb: a dork who is also annoying and physically frail

I am e) All of the above.

I... Enjoy Suki's definitions. Interestingly enough, I had some sort of idea that those were somewhat accurate.

Also I would say that I'm maybe a nerd with a touch of geek, and a little peppering of dork.

Huh. By Suki's definitions I am none of the above.

ＭＡＸＸＸＯＮ wrote:
but a geek is somebody who embraces subcultural things in general-- hipster music, anime, Herzog films.
So geeks are basically hipsters? I've been called nerd/geek many times in my life but I am farrrrrrrr from a hipster.

Actually, a dork is a whale penis.

that's interesting, pavel.

Everybody is a nerd with atleast something. If they arn't they generally just tend to be pretty dull.

A geek is what i think your talking about; those weird people that arn't really socially accepted. It is very much still a relevent term because they are still freakin' everywhere.

I'm a number geek according to Suki.

1729 is 10³+9³, and also 12³+1³.

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