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Slappy, avert your eyes!

Yeah, I heard about this. I admit I laughed a little when I first read it, but really the dude is a douchebag.

Wait, these people are serious? If they hate the albums so much why don't they just stop buying them. Paying them more money to not make albums than you would ever pay to buy all their albums seems silly to me.

I don't think he was serious, not entirely anyway. No need to rage.

And I agree with him in that Pinkerton was the last truly great Weezer album. I love the first two, hands down two of the coolest albums of all time.

Green is good, but the rest pain me.

Making music makes Rivers Cuomo happy.

His music makes me happy, and many others.

Everybody who wants to mess with that is a cunt.

I just want a new Weezer album to love. I'm not saying they should stop, nor that the other albums are shit. I just don't like them and I want MORE WEEZER TO LOVE!

Man, I wish all of those bands that make music I like release those albums again. Because that, as a fan, is what I want.

a happy song wrote:I don't think he was serious, not entirely anyway. No need to rage.

I wasn't raging...?

=w= wrote:Man, I wish all of those bands that make music I like release those albums again. Because that, as a fan, is what I want.

Didn't say that.

Said I want something to love, not more of the same.

Blue to Pinkerton = drastic. Drastic would be good, if I thought it were actually good.

ＭＡＸＸＸＯＮ wrote:

a happy song wrote:I don't think he was serious, not entirely anyway. No need to rage.

I wasn't raging...?

Did I quote you directly?

It was more of a pre-emptive justincase.

=w= wrote:Making music makes Rivers Cuomo happy.

His music makes me happy, and many others.

Everybody who wants to mess with that is a cunt.

You could say the same about religion.
The problem is that Weezer fans are only hurting themselves, and often enough the family and friends around them.

Slappy, could you do something for me, please, as you seem to be the go to guy for all things Weezer.

Could you put together your favourite tracks from everything post Green, say, 8-10, and build me an album of what you consider the best to be?

I'd love to give some of this new material another shot, it might be a nice way to do it.

a happy song wrote:

=w= wrote:Man, I wish all of those bands that make music I like release those albums again. Because that, as a fan, is what I want.

Didn't say that.

Said I want something to love, not more of the same.

Blue to Pinkerton = drastic. Drastic would be good, if I thought it were actually good.

There are people, heathens, who love the Blue album but hate Pinkerton.


These people recognize how different the music was; loud, MORE cryptic, sad, and were driven away by that sound. These people frequently talk about how Weezer should go back to the days of Blue and Green. (and sometimes Red, but I think that's just for continuity's sake.)

There are others who believe that Weezer peaked with Make Believe, and thus, love Make Believe and the bonus tracks on all of the albums since. (Legit.)

I love Blue, Pink, Green, Mal, Make Believe, Half of Red, and Hurley. I don't like Raditude because the lyrics are all fun party rock and the guitars are sometimes overshadowed by synths. But when the guitars do get loud, I like it quite a bit. There are a few good tunes there.

But I recognize that each album is a very different exploration in the gigantic umbrella of power pop. Which is why I continue to not understand you people; you people who bitch about how he made two perfect albums and then fell down a downward spiral. There is absolutely no downward spiral. The albums do not go from one style to the current in a smooth progression. Green, for instance, was at least partly about minimizing their guitar sound, and then Mal was about Maximising it. Red was about internal collaboration; Raditude was also about collaboration, but with members outside the band.

It's just so frustrating to hear all of you guys say "MAN I WISH HE WOULD STOP MAKING MUSIC" or "WHY DOESN'T HE MAKE GOOD MUSIC?" His music is great, imo, and you people continue to act like assholes as if you have some moral superiority to those of us who like it, or because you happen to perceive this to be the majority of people's opinion (but look at the record sales on Make Believe, and shudder, bitches!). And if you really need to hear Pinkerton again, Pinkerton is coming out again on November 2nd.

And most of you haven't listened to the first Rentals album, which is at least as good as Blue.

And yes, atob, as soon as I get back to my apartment tonight.

Let me just say I in no way agree with the people saying they should stop. The link was posted as I found it amusing.

And this is entirely preference, I've simply not heard anything I from them since the first two records that I adore. Which I'm sad about, because I /adore/ the first two.

Again, I have no desire to hear Pinkerton again. I just want to hear something I can fall in love with in the same way.

Thanks Slappy, I'm look forward to it.

Well, since Slappy seems to be the most knowledgeable of Weezer stuff...

I've never heard them, but I might as well give them a shot. If you could pick one album that I should listen to, what would it be?

Blue or Hurley imho

ＭＡＸＸＸＯＮ wrote:Well, since Slappy seems to be the most knowledgeable of Weezer stuff...

I've never heard them, but I might as well give them a shot. If you could pick one album that I should listen to, what would it be?

Blue then Pinkerton, imo.

And not just because I think they're the best, they just contrast so well.

Don't do Pinkerton first. It took me years to like Pinkerton.

Blue it is. I'll try to get to it this week.

=w= wrote:Don't do Pinkerton first. It took me years to like Pinkerton.

Really, how come?

toasters wrote:

=w= wrote:Don't do Pinkerton first. It took me years to like Pinkerton.

Really, how come?

I found it really dark and not particularly fun, which are the traits I love now.

=w= wrote:

toasters wrote:

=w= wrote:Don't do Pinkerton first. It took me years to like Pinkerton.

Really, how come?

I found it really dark and not particularly fun, which are the traits I love now.

Huh, I liked it when I first heard it. The material is darker, but "The Good Life" and "El Scorcho" are super fun songs.

What a weird, asshole move.

I NEVER KNEW THAT WEEZER MADE "SAY IT AIN'T SO". I heard that song on Rock Band and like it. Getting Blue album today.

EDIT: I am listening to Sweater Song right now and I'm positive I've heard this on the radio before.

EDIT2: Done. I gotta say, despite the fact that I normally hate these kind of upbeat rock bands, this was surprisingly enjoyable.

Like:

My Name Is Jonas
Buddy Holly
The Sweater Song
Say It Ain't So
Only In Dreams; this song made me sad though :(

Dislike:

No One Else
Surf Wax America

Neutral:

Everything else

Overall a very solid album IMO.

How can you not love In the Garage?

ＭＡＸＸＸＯＮ wrote:I heard that song on Rock Band and like it.

I hate people like you, sorry.