The Dronies 2008 Votes!

[wolfgang]

Two nominations? That's a big suprise, thanks for whoever nominated me.

Voting was fun, there are some great maps up there.

[Rule]

don't talk about your own maps wulfgang tssss.
Kidding, they are awesome.

[Pikman]

I looked back to past years to compare, and by far, this year's nominations are of far lower quality in every category.

[PALEMOON]

I looked back to past years to compare, and by far, this year's nominations are of far lower quality in every category.

yes isn't everything better in nostalgia land?

[Condog]

I looked back to past years to compare, and by far, this year's nominations are of far lower quality in every category.

Please don't ruin what is supposed to be a nice thing.

[amomentlikethis]

TILESET OF THE YEAR

• Drunkship of Lanterns by wulfgang

How on earth did an N-art map make this catagory?
Surely a Tileset is something a playable map can be made out of, no?

[Skyling]

Surely a Tileset is something a playable map can be made out of, no?

No.

[amomentlikethis]

Please explain to me the difference between a Tileset of this style and an N-art?

[lord_day]

A tileset is a map with no visible objects. An N-art is a map made for artistic value. A map can be both a tileset and an N-Art.

[a happy song]

Surely a Tileset is something a playable map can be made out of, no?

Like this?

[Condog]

Surely a Tileset is something a playable map can be made out of, no?

Like this?

Haha, awesome.

[Eiturlyf]

I smell upcoming tower posts.

[lord_day]

Some recent users have uses the voting form as a medium to complain through. Please do not do that. Any complaints and / or issues should be dealt with here or through PM's to me or Skyline.

And to those users who did complain, and you know who you are, you didn't submit any nominations, so you have no room to complain.

That said, get your votes if you haven't! Voting closes on 30th December.

[SkyPanda]

Amlt makes a very good point- playability is something that tilesets have traditionally been judged on. That said, the dronies don't specify criteria, people nominate and vote on their own criteria. There's no need to be disrespecting a fair comment on the way maps are judged, its just the time and place to bring it up is a little awkward.

[amomentlikethis]

...you didn't submit any nominations, so you have no room to complain.

I didn't submit any nominations because from experience of last year and the year before, the Dronies are pretty much forum and IRC controlled. Considering I don't really use either, all but one of my nominations wouldn't have made the overall list.
The only one of these nominations I actually agree with is astheoceansblue for Mapmaker of the Year.

[a happy song]

Amlt makes a very good point- playability is something that tilesets have traditionally been judged on. That said, the dronies don't specify criteria, people nominate and vote on their own criteria. There's no need to be disrespecting a fair comment on the way maps are judged, its just the time and place to bring it up is a little awkward.

Any tileset can be made playable with a few edits. That's the entire point of them. They're starting blocks to work with, not absolute, making slight edits is all part of the process to making it fit to your personal vision.

I have to edit almost every tileset I use to make it work for my specific vision. Anyway, I only removed around 8 tiles to produce a playable map from the tileset in question, that's hardly a deviation worth getting in a huff about.

[Pikman]

And to those users who did complain, and you know who you are, you didn't submit any nominations, so you have no room to complain.

There were nominations?

[lord_day]

I didn't submit any nominations because from experience of last year and the year before, the Dronies are pretty much forum and IRC controlled. Considering I don't really use either, all but one of my nominations wouldn't have made the overall list.

Wait, what? That makes no sense. Skyline and I control the Dronies, and the maps with the most nominations go through to the voting stage. It has nothing to do with whether or not you use IRC or the forums

There were nominations?

Yes. They were advertised alot.

[amomentlikethis]

I didn't submit any nominations because from experience of last year and the year before, the Dronies are pretty much forum and IRC controlled. Considering I don't really use either, all but one of my nominations wouldn't have made the overall list.

Wait, what? That makes no sense. Skyline and I control the Dronies, and the maps with the most nominations go through to the voting stage. It has nothing to do with whether or not you use IRC or the forums.

IRC situation -
Player 1: I haven't nominated any maps yet.
Player 2: I nominated these maps: *list*.
Player 1: Oh wow, I like those maps, I'm going to nominate all the same xD

Forum situation -
Player 1: I nominated these maps: *list*.
Player 2: Ha, those were cool, I nominated some of those too!

Not using IRC/Forum situation -
Player 1: *Nominates*.
Everyone else: *Nominates maps heavily based on other nominations as above*.
Player 1: Oh look, none of my maps got through. I wonder why...

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Dronies used to be heavily controlled by the Top Rated maps as well, but that hasn't really been possible this year.

[Spawn of Yanni]

the Dronies are pretty much forum and IRC controlled. Considering I don't really use either

IRC situation -
Player 1: I haven't nominated any maps yet.
Player 2: I nominated these maps: *list*.
Player 1: Oh wow, I like those maps, I'm going to nominate all the same xD

And you most certainly would know.


I'm begging you please, here, Amlt, please stop being a massive cuntdouche to the community. Don't generalise the good peoples of the IRC, and don't pretend you're better than all of them.

[lord_day]

The situations you listed haven't happened. Definitely not on the forums, and not that I've seen on the IRC. People are generally quite secretive about their nominations and votes.

And what Yanni said.

[amomentlikethis]

Well all I've gained from coming here is a few flames.
Remove my votes for atob, my opinion obviously isn't wanted here.

Cya.

[Spawn of Yanni]

-Damn right- your opinion isn't wanted if this is how you present it. I hate to drive someone away like this, but you pop up out of nowhere and immediately make it your business to ruffle feathers.

No one likes a whiner. You could've well approached this entire couple of days from a whole other direction which wouldn't have gotten the entire forum on your back.

[ska]

everyone fuck off, stop overreacting, amlt/masterjmd has been here longer than most, including me. Maybe he doesn't make complete sense to you but the way you treat your veteran members is much worse. I really don't care if you come down on my for saying this but please, can you show some respect..

[a happy song]

The only thing that AMLT has offered this community outside of NUMA is a stubborn and egotistical nature that subscribes to a humourless and pedantic ideal.

Time spent does not automatically equate to respect due.