Metanet 0ths Thread

[EddyMataGallos]

Wow sick runs there macro! :D Definitely gotta try out that route when school gives me some free time.

[TheRealOne]

FINALLY!
69-4, i'm extremely happy with this

Incredible. I you killed it. Honestly the start of the run was the sloppiest piece. You did have once single spot of hesitation or stutter stepping. Going with the history theme look at Lim's lead on this level back in 07. And now another huge improvement. The community will get over 72k TLS no problem with runs like this. Keep 'em coming.

Ep 69 is rife for the taking, not in the sense that any of the 0ths are bad, but these levels are all really long and certainly have more innovations left. I would love to see a perfect Ep on this one. Although you sure just made it a hell of a lot harder throwing down that run van.

But in any event here is a 5+ second innovation for 69-3 to get the ball rolling.
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Great runs Macro. At one point or another Ska, van, and I had all tinkered with that route after van took the 0th with his and my route. We were all so concentrated on trying to get the top two groups of gold in the middle and make it back to the right dome at the bottom (which I still think is possible by the way) that no one ever thought to get go to the left dome and jump and forth.

[vankusss]

Thanks. Thought macro had to be a boob and lower the lead - at least he missed a gold lol.

Eddy thx for the tables, was really interesting.
List of biggest leads (all time) is pointless I think, you can't compare what was 5 years ago with what it is now. Maybe we can start one now (not including current table - the first 0th that comes from now is at the top of the list - for example let's put 61-2 there - will be reasonably hard to beat).
TRO I thought about ep 69, but then you look at -2 and you're like 'naaaaah i'll pass'.
I remade that 69-3 into userlevel:
$69-3###900000000000000000000060000000000000000000000000;<00;1=0;1=0;1=0;1=000011000000000000000000087118000000000000000000111111111111111111111<0111111111111111111111101MI61MI61MI61MI61MI61=0I0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001LH71LH71LH71LH71LH00701111111111111111111111011111111111111111111110111111111111111111111101111111111111111111111011190000000000611111110:1=00000000;=00111900600000000;=00000011100000000;=00000000001110000000000000000000011100000000000000000000111000000000000000;=00011100000000000;=00000001110000000;=00000000000111000000000000000000001110000000000000000000011100000000000000;=00001110000000000;=00000000:1=000000;=000000000000000000080000000000000000000007|5^300,36!12^216,132!12^288,156!12^288,252!12^216,228!12^216,324!12^288,348!12^288,444!12^216,420!12^216,516!0^252,132!0^252,156!0^252,228!0^252,252!0^252,324!0^252,348!0^252,420!0^252,444!0^252,432!0^252,336!0^252,240!0^252,144!12^312,516!12^288,576!12^312,552!12^228,420!12^276,444!12^264,348!12^276,348!12^276,252!12^240,408!12^264,456!12^228,516!12^240,528!11^144,564,168,564#
According to my runs with the old route, your new route is "only" 60 frames faster. What did you mean with those 5 seconds? Like you can do faster ending?
61-2 = well done, like TRO said, everyone missed that possibility. 5.5 seconds over the original 0th heh.

[macrohenry]

Took 58-1 from Lim with an innovation on the right. ;)

What about one "leader list" for 2-3 years each?

[EddyMataGallos]

Again nice run :D Pretty clean now. As for the leader list, its true it would be way too subjective to compare old boards with new boards. Probably the most fair way of doing it would be starting right now as van said, since the decision of including or not previous years with the reason of them being close in difficulty to todays standard (i.e. 2012) would benefit ones and be prejudical to others.

[vankusss]

Woah macro, you're on a steak (haha pun) here :D
I'll add to the mix with 99-4, though the idea was not mine (Hendors probably? he didn't make it into 0th though)

[TheRealOne]

I remade that 69-3 into userlevel:
$69-3###900000000000000000000060000000000000000000000000;<00;1=0;1=0;1=0;1=000011000000000000000000087118000000000000000000111111111111111111111<0111111111111111111111101MI61MI61MI61MI61MI61=0I0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001LH71LH71LH71LH71LH00701111111111111111111111011111111111111111111110111111111111111111111101111111111111111111111011190000000000611111110:1=00000000;=00111900600000000;=00000011100000000;=00000000001110000000000000000000011100000000000000000000111000000000000000;=00011100000000000;=00000001110000000;=00000000000111000000000000000000001110000000000000000000011100000000000000;=00001110000000000;=00000000:1=000000;=000000000000000000080000000000000000000007|5^300,36!12^216,132!12^288,156!12^288,252!12^216,228!12^216,324!12^288,348!12^288,444!12^216,420!12^216,516!0^252,132!0^252,156!0^252,228!0^252,252!0^252,324!0^252,348!0^252,420!0^252,444!0^252,432!0^252,336!0^252,240!0^252,144!12^312,516!12^288,576!12^312,552!12^228,420!12^276,444!12^264,348!12^276,348!12^276,252!12^240,408!12^264,456!12^228,516!12^240,528!11^144,564,168,564#
According to my runs with the old route, your new route is "only" 60 frames faster. What did you mean with those 5 seconds? Like you can do faster ending?

My statement is very misleading. I meant it to state that I think there is at least 5 seconds left in the map with route changes through out. That innovation is one of them to "get the ball rolling" on others. My apologies. I was thinking that this was probably worth about 2 seconds, but i guess I overestimated that a bit.

[vankusss]

My statement is very misleading. I meant it to state that I think there is at least 5 seconds left in the map with route changes through out. That innovation is one of them to "get the ball rolling" on others. My apologies. I was thinking that this was probably worth about 2 seconds, but i guess I overestimated that a bit.

As it happens, I was trying to find a faster beginning for 69-3 few days ago, and found nothing. I'm really doubtful there is something faster, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

[EddyMataGallos]

Wow a crapton of 0ths are falling today! Great job van & macro :D. I wish I had time to join you today guys, playing in company is always funnier.

[vankusss]

Wow a crapton of 0ths are falling today! Great job van & macro :D. I wish I had time to join you today guys, playing in company is always funnier.

No no no we don't want YOU! :D I actually enjoy having the 0th stand, you know, at the top and not under you :D (kidding ofc!)

EDIT: 58-4, crappy run, but the innov is worth like 30+ frames. I'm sure Eddy will retake this one so I'll leave the cleaning to him.

[EddyMataGallos]

Haha :P Nice 58-4, though my participation will have to wait a few days (even weeks! o.O)

[ska]

I don't get why you guys don't do what I do in the bottom right on that level... it's not even that hard..

[EddyMataGallos]

Well if you ghost it its actually not that faster, actually van ties you there. But I guess you can save some frames there still.

[macrohenry]

Took Ep 90. ;)

[vankusss]

my participation will have to wait a few days (even weeks! o.O)

Oh that sucks.
@ska: it doesn't help, the middle bottom drone is a bottleneck. I can still die on it even with my current route if i'm too fast.
macro at first I was like, 9 frames lead for an episode run, but then I realised what were the levels :P

[DJ_M]

No one mentioned anything about Eddy's 598 top20s.

[golf]

No one mentioned anything about Eddy's 598 top20s.

Congrats to macro for making it onto the board there.

[macrohenry]

No one mentioned anything about Eddy's 598 top20s.

Congrats to macro for making it onto the board there.

Thanks. :D I was so frustrated because I got .450 twice before I did my .475 run.
Btw, I have all 499 level top-20s now. ;)

[EddyMataGallos]

No one mentioned anything about Eddy's 598 top20s.

Took 90-3. Back to my 599, hopefully it will last longer now.

Found some free time and also retook 58-4 by 1.350 using vans innov and a new ending.

Oh, and well done on your 499 level scores macro! I saw you were at 498 not so long ago. Now the episodes is the easiest part!

[TheRealOne]

No one mentioned anything about Eddy's 598 top20s.

Took 90-3. Back to my 599, hopefully it will last longer now.

Found some free time and also retook 58-4 by 1.350 using vans innov and a new ending.

Oh, and well done on your 499 level scores macro! I saw you were at 498 not so long ago. Now the episodes is the easiest part!

Um.... Did you not realize that you just took 90-3 0th?! Or are you just that good that you can be so nonchalant about it? Now I am on the bubble if Macro improves. That is one of my very few top-20s.

Also 58-4 is sick, you crushed the ending. I think that is the best triple, climb, and exit I have seen on that level.

[golf]

Once again, a pair of great runs from Eddy. This just proves that nothing is safe...

/me goes to hide 0ths in Fort Knox

[Pheidippides]

that 58-4 ending i dont even

also 2 frames behind L3X's cheated run on 90-3 is cool i guess

also macro and vankusss and other peeps have been tearing shit up lately

i cant believe how much room for improvement you guys can still find in this relatively ancient game

yes i read this thread and watch all your demos

stupid highscorers it's not like i like you guys or anything

i wanted to enter emulator this month so im posting like a collab between flag and gloomp and palemoon

am i doing this right please help

[otters~1]

IS HE DRUNK

[TheRealOne]

You two had better run along before people find out that you actually still play the game. That is reserved for us weirdos in the highscore thread. lol.

[EddyMataGallos]

Thanks a lot guys, really kind as usual. I was pretty excited after taking 90-3, but didn't want to exaggerate on my comment or something :P Pheidi, its pretty cool that actually more people do still care about highscoring.

I had all of today for free time, so I played some more N. Retook Ep90 from macro, including taking 90-1 with the hard route beating all cheaters ;) I sadly screwed the ending on 90-2, but didn't want to reset. Also retook 61-2, sorry again macro ;)

Took Ep2 including improving my 2-4 by 0.5, I think. Also took 7-2 with a lil innov and 45-3 by cleaning.