Metanet 0ths Thread

[EddyMataGallos]

Very good 0th jp, when I saw the run I was expecting some more lead, might be because of the ending as you said, but the route is really clever.

Wow, such an awesome run! That will be hard to beat. Good luck, Eddy. ;)

Hehe, I'm pretty much retired from Metanet highscoring, just in case you hadn't already noticed from my lack of activity, but thanks for trusting in me :P Oh and btw props for the 599 Top-8 scores, thats pretty cool, I originally had several other goals in mind which at the end I didn't do, like 599 Top-5 scores and beating eru on TES, but I don't think I'll ever get around to do that, it requires effort that I don't dedicate anymore. You can do it though.

[TheRealOne]

Taken 58-4 with a new route. There's definitely a lot of time left as I went for a very safe ending, but more importantly this now puts me at an incredible...
10 0ths!
That's right, only about 100 to go to overtake macro!

You'll be surprised with how quick those 0ths can come if you keep coming up with innovations and route changes like this one and the others over the past few days.

[macrohenry]

Oh, btw, ska, I think you should go for an episode ownage on Ep09. You only need 09-3. That can't be tooooo difficult, right? ;)

EDIT: Took 25-4.

[EddyMataGallos]

Oh, btw, ska, I think you should go for an episode ownage on Ep09. You only need 09-3. That can't be tooooo difficult, right? ;)

EDIT: Took 25-4.

Yeah and take kryx down on the way :P Its pretty much his last takeable 0th, the other 3 are chimey levels (although Kool came pretty damn close on 32-1).
Oh and nice 0th macro, as usual ;)

[macrohenry]

Oh, btw, ska, I think you should go for an episode ownage on Ep09. You only need 09-3. That can't be tooooo difficult, right? ;)

EDIT: Took 25-4.

Yeah and take kryx down on the way :P Its pretty much his last takeable 0th, the other 3 are chimey levels (although Kool came pretty damn close on 32-1).
Oh and nice 0th macro, as usual ;)

25-2 is doable as well. Raif has a faster run on speedrun mode.

EDIT: Oh shit, I just tried 09-3 a bit and managed to tie kryX! D:
EDIT 2: Beaten!!! Take that, kryX! :P

[EddyMataGallos]

Oh, btw, ska, I think you should go for an episode ownage on Ep09. You only need 09-3. That can't be tooooo difficult, right? ;)

EDIT: Took 25-4.

Yeah and take kryx down on the way :P Its pretty much his last takeable 0th, the other 3 are chimey levels (although Kool came pretty damn close on 32-1).
Oh and nice 0th macro, as usual ;)

25-2 is doable as well. Raif has a faster run on speedrun mode.

EDIT: Oh shit, I just tried 09-3 a bit and managed to tie kryX! D:
EDIT 2: Beaten!!! Take that, kryX! :P

Oh yeah I wasn't taking 25-2 into account because it is legit, his only legit 0th (which Raif tied and then beat as you mentioned). I had just checked the cheated 0th list, but yeah you are right I forgot about 25-2. This is the list by the way:

02-2 Goo
02-4 Goo
09-3 kryX-orange
22-1 crappitrash
26-1 naem
26-4 L3X (Tied realtime)
27-4 ANGERFIST
32-1 kryX-orange
46-3 L3X
53-0 kryX-orange
87-0 ANGERFIST
89-0 crappitrash
90-3 kryX-orange

And props on taking that 0th down!

[TheRealOne]

Nice job Macro! That run is super clean. You join only 2 people who have ever broken 100 seconds on that map.

02-2 Goo
02-4 Goo
09-3 kryX-orange
22-1 crappitrash
26-1 naem
26-4 L3X (Tied realtime)
27-4 ANGERFIST
32-1 kryX-orange
46-3 L3X
53-0 kryX-orange
87-0 ANGERFIST
89-0 crappitrash
90-3 kryX-orange

I think the bold are all beatable especially 87-0, run to the left at the start... I have been saying that for years now. The ninja is not centered on the door, he is c-snapped to the left. It is a bit harder just because of those the chimney works out, but certainly doable and Raif's MBD shows that there is still like half a second left on that map.

[ska]

Oh, btw, ska, I think you should go for an episode ownage on Ep09. You only need 09-3. That can't be tooooo difficult, right? ;)

This is the second time I've been told to do that... Trust me, I tried... seeing that "minivation" with the bottom left wall slide gives me a little hope, though.

Nice job Macro! That run is super clean. You join only 2 people who have ever broken 100 seconds on that map.

Just on that, anyone else think mc_george's beginning is suspiciously tight? Compare it to KryX's FBF'd run in demo mode, and you'll see what I mean... I noticed it a while ago when I first took the episode 0th, but didn't want to make a scene about it...

[macrohenry]

Nice job Macro! That run is super clean. You join only 2 people who have ever broken 100 seconds on that map.

02-2 Goo
02-4 Goo
09-3 kryX-orange
22-1 crappitrash
26-1 naem
26-4 L3X (Tied realtime)
27-4 ANGERFIST
32-1 kryX-orange
46-3 L3X
53-0 kryX-orange
87-0 ANGERFIST
89-0 crappitrash
90-3 kryX-orange

I think the bold are all beatable especially 87-0, run to the left at the start... I have been saying that for years now. The ninja is not centered on the door, he is c-snapped to the left. It is a bit harder just because of those the chimney works out, but certainly doable and Raif's MBD shows that there is still like half a second left on that map.

I daresay 02-4 is beatable as well. Look at the screenshot below. Goo is the ninja and Eddy is the bubble. Goo makes these useless jumps during his whole run which make him lose frames. These add up on such a long run. I think if you clean the beginning even more and pick the extra gold on the left you might be able to beat Goo. It'll be extremely hard, but I'd say it's doable.
89-0 will be a challenge as well. We all know Kool for his awesome chimneying and his beginning and ending are clean as well(his beginning is even faster than crappi's). If he can't beat crappitrash, nobody can.

Just on that, anyone else think mc_george's beginning is suspiciously tight? Compare it to KryX's FBF'd run in demo mode, and you'll see what I mean... I noticed it a while ago when I first took the episode 0th, but didn't want to make a scene about it...

Yeah, that looks weird. But then I don't understand why he completely messed up the rest of the run.

Oh, btw: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EDDY! :)

EDIT: Took 46-3 and beat L3X. :) Also took 63-0, eru's last level 0th.

[eru_bahagon]

Fuck.

[macrohenry]

Oh, hi, didn't know you were still around. :)

[eru_bahagon]

Still checking from time to time. I was thinking of doing a bot to send me new 0ths by mails a couple of months ago but didn't. I've been quite lucky today to notice it. Nice run(s) by the way :)

To be honest I didn't expect players to reach such a high level, keep improving over the years, surpassing xaelar's total score by that much and be able to get so many fbf's 0th. I'm also glad you're bringing many innovations.

And happy b-day Eddy !

[alsojp27ace]

Damn, nice runs macro. It looks like there's still a few frames left in 46-3, you were quite a long way ahead of L3X before the chimneying.

Taken 82-3 with a different route, not really faster but I prefer it.

Happy birthday Eddy :)

[TheRealOne]

Damn, nice runs macro. It looks like there's still a few frames left in 46-3, you were quite a long way ahead of L3X before the chimneying.

Taken 82-3 with a different route, not really faster but I prefer it.

Happy birthday Eddy :)

Nice work Macro 46-3 is well done. JP is right there is certainly a bit left, but only a few frames. That should be a pretty secure 0th. 63-0 is pretty nice as well. The route on this map makes it really hard to get a good run because you need to just go for it an risk getting zapped on a good run. The timing is tough. I think you may be right Macro based on Eddy's 2-4 it can be done, but that will require one hell of a run.

Sad to see the Eru's last level 0th go down, but you should defend it =P

JP that run is pretty swanky. That map has one of my favorite routes in the game. Just such a fun run to watch.

[macrohenry]

Took 60-1 and 73-2. ;)

[EddyMataGallos]

Thank you guys :) I think you are right about 2-4 as well macro, taking the extra gold and some cleaning can give you the 0th, I remember golf suggesting me to try it, but at the end... :P I think that for most people, it would actually be harder to take 32-1 (which TRO did put in bold), except for those few that have been granted with super fast fingers.

Oh and impressive 0ths macro and jp, I'm not sure how close to me you are in TLS, but you must have been getting damn closer and closer lately hehe ;) Great job macro.

Oh and eru, nice to hear you still lurk around from time to time.

[TheRealOne]

Took 60-1 and 73-2. ;)

There has got to be a better way to end 73-2. That jump at the end because of the floorguard must be avoidable.

Eitherway great runs. I am sure Kool in none too pleased with 60-1.

[ska]

Took 60-1 and 73-2. ;)

There has got to be a better way to end 73-2. That jump at the end because of the floorguard must be avoidable.

Eitherway great runs. I am sure Kool in none too pleased with 60-1.

You can avoid it if you lure it right at the start of the map. Unfortunately, it wastes too much time for it to be of any use.

[TheRealOne]

Took 60-1 and 73-2. ;)

There has got to be a better way to end 73-2. That jump at the end because of the floorguard must be avoidable.

Eitherway great runs. I am sure Kool in none too pleased with 60-1.

You can avoid it if you lure it right at the start of the map. Unfortunately, it wastes too much time for it to be of any use.

I know it is possible to skip over the FG if you hit the corner beforehand just right. Similar to the ending you can get on 25-2. However I am pretty sure that with the ending as is that angle or speed is not achievable so I think reworking the ending would require changing how the last groups of gold are collected which would hopefully change how you can approach that last jump. That said I really can't think of anything off hand. Maybe there is a completely different route going clockwise around the map that is faster.

[ska]

I know it is possible to skip over the FG if you hit the corner beforehand just right. Similar to the ending you can get on 25-2. However I am pretty sure that with the ending as is that angle or speed is not achievable so I think reworking the ending would require changing how the last groups of gold are collected which would hopefully change how you can approach that last jump. That said I really can't think of anything off hand. Maybe there is a completely different route going clockwise around the map that is faster.

Well, if you find a "magic trajectory" - secundum 25-2 ending, I would be very impressed.

As for the counter-clockwise route... a drone seems to cause problems for me in the identical place as the standard clockwise route, weirdly enough... (I seem to recall trying this years ago and finding this, after trying it now.)

[macrohenry]

Took 93-3 (sorry, Dark :/) and 97-0 with an innovation.

[alsojp27ace]

Took 93-3 (sorry, Dark :/) and 97-0 with an innovation.

Nice runs. Improved that 97-0 innovation, and was also came up with a start for 96-4 that's just as fast but lets you get all the gold.
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This could possibly let you innovate the second half to return to the exit on the right and save quite a bit of time.

[macrohenry]

Retook 97-0. That was hard, your run was already very clean, jp. Nice 96-4 innovation, but I won't use it because I'm not patient enough for this level. :D

[alsojp27ace]

Retook 97-0. That was hard, your run was already very clean, jp. Nice 96-4 innovation, but I won't use it because I'm not patient enough for this level. :D

Retaken, I lost a lot of time at the end so its definitely beatable, but that took me way too long so I won't try to improve it again.

[macrohenry]

Retook 97-0. That was hard, your run was already very clean, jp. Nice 96-4 innovation, but I won't use it because I'm not patient enough for this level. :D

Retaken, I lost a lot of time at the end so its definitely beatable, but that took me way too long so I won't try to improve it again.

Retaken again. :P

EDIT: Took 77-0 with the old route, but still with a big lead. Also took Ep73 and Ep39. I actually pressed k during the fall on 39-4 when I realized that I had missed the gold, but nothing happened. Damn, I'd have loved to have those two extra seconds. :(