Map Pack- Memoir Of the Ancients
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well, at least we have several two-year people. i don't like the number of newer mappers on the list. what sort of filter, if any, are we going to use? i mean, how are we going to determine who is worthy of joining and who isn't? i would suggest a time limit: everyone who has been here for 8 months or more, with exceptions of course.
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What about, the person is officially deemed worthy by an admin or someone with similar role here, like Blizz or Dave. Seems more effective than some numerical garbage, at the price of inflating egos.
Whether they'd be bothered to help this thread or not is another question.
Whether they'd be bothered to help this thread or not is another question.
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I propose that ChaoStar do the choosing on a map-to-map basis, not by author. We can all submit our five to ten maps, then he (and others, if necessary) can go through them, and determine whether they get to go in the pack or not. This way, PALEMOON has as equal a chance of getting his maps rejected as any new user does.
By the way, ChaoStar, I think you should have hashed this idea out a little more before opening it to the general public.
EDIT: I don't know who you've already invited, but I suggest Pheidi and Hooz. Also blackson.
By the way, ChaoStar, I think you should have hashed this idea out a little more before opening it to the general public.
EDIT: I don't know who you've already invited, but I suggest Pheidi and Hooz. Also blackson.
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really, I was recruiting the authors by their maps, it will be like PALEMOON will make a map of the demanded quality in 30 minutes, where some other author will take an hour to two hours.flagmyidol wrote:I propose that ChaoStar do the choosing on a map-to-map basis, not by author. We can all submit our five to ten maps, then he (and others, if necessary) can go through them, and determine whether they get to go in the pack or not. This way, PALEMOON has as equal a chance of getting his maps rejected as any new user does.
By the way, ChaoStar, I think you should have hashed this idea out a little more before opening it to the general public.
EDIT: I don't know who you've already invited, but I suggest Pheidi and Hooz. Also blackson.
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I took that role on.GTM wrote:What about, the person is officially deemed worthy by an admin or someone with similar role here, like Blizz or Dave. Seems more effective than some numerical garbage, at the price of inflating egos.
Whether they'd be bothered to help this thread or not is another question.
also, about the age limit, (no pun intended) I was really aiming for ~2 year people. OR this could be some sort of massive collab, one map at a time... (?)
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The two year limit has not worked so far, unfortunately.ChaoStar wrote:I took that role on.GTM wrote:What about, the person is officially deemed worthy by an admin or someone with similar role here, like Blizz or Dave. Seems more effective than some numerical garbage, at the price of inflating egos.
Whether they'd be bothered to help this thread or not is another question.
also, about the age limit, (no pun intended) I was really aiming for ~2 year people. OR this could be some sort of massive collab, one map at a time... (?)
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though, some people have been mapping long before they have joined the forums/numa.
And some people have just been around, not really joining until a little while ago. Some people like me, have been here since there were 3 columns in N.
And some people have just been around, not really joining until a little while ago. Some people like me, have been here since there were 3 columns in N.
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Here's my list of the relatively ancient:
1. PALEMOON
2. Shortshift
3. martyr
These guys have been around longer than many others on the list, and they consistently make good maps. There are others that do the same on the list, but aren't nearly as old. I guess the rest of the mappers will be considered ancient in a few years.
Anyway, this is an original project, I don't think I've seen anything like it.
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1. PALEMOON
2. Shortshift
3. martyr
These guys have been around longer than many others on the list, and they consistently make good maps. There are others that do the same on the list, but aren't nearly as old. I guess the rest of the mappers will be considered ancient in a few years.
Anyway, this is an original project, I don't think I've seen anything like it.
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Wait, so if there is going to be an age limit, does that mean I'm not in anymore? I understand completely, if so. Based on the majority of feedback I receive on NUMA, I make decent/good maps, but I've only been here for 3 months.
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well, how old is ancient?Izzy wrote:Here's my list of the relatively ancient:
1. PALEMOON
2. Shortshift
3. martyr
These guys have been around longer than many others on the list, and they consistently make good maps. There are others that do the same on the list, but aren't nearly as old. I guess the rest of the mappers will be considered ancient in a few years.
Anyway, this is an original project, I don't think I've seen anything like it.
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no. there technically is no age limit.maxson924 wrote:Wait, so if there is going to be an age limit, does that mean I'm not in anymore? I understand completely, if so. Based on the majority of feedback I receive on NUMA, I make decent/good maps, but I've only been here for 3 months.
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Will anyone vouch for me? My average rating is above a 4 including my unrated maps... I just don't get much publicity. Please, could someone check out my maps and say if I'm allowed to join?
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If it's just five maps, I can get you something eventually. The next time I'm in a good mapping mood, I'll try to work on this. Thanks for inviting me. :)
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In case I'm allowed to submit, here are some of the maps I've been working on that I like:
If you guys all like them, I may submit some to NUMA. I'm also working on a drone-based jumper and a chaingun speedrunning map, but I don't think they're near as good as these yet.
If you guys all like them, I may submit some to NUMA. I'm also working on a drone-based jumper and a chaingun speedrunning map, but I don't think they're near as good as these yet.
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I'm really glad to be included in this, but honestly, I don't think I should. People like me, karma, ganteka, maxson, etc. all shouldn't be allowed in this. I've been here longer than the 3 names that proceed me, but I've only been here since August 2007. Ancients or even oldies should be at least a year old before coming to this list and that is the purpose of the mappack (in my personal belief).
I'll get my maps up soon. If ChaoStar thinks as I do, then so be it. My maps shall not be included (and neither should many other people who have joined).
I'll get my maps up soon. If ChaoStar thinks as I do, then so be it. My maps shall not be included (and neither should many other people who have joined).
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I'm 8 months old and I really want part in this. My first map is almost done too.Lightning55 wrote:I'm really glad to be included in this, but honestly, I don't think I should. People like me, karma, ganteka, maxson, etc. all shouldn't be allowed in this. I've been here longer than the 3 names that proceed me, but I've only been here since August 2007. Ancients or even oldies should be at least a year old before coming to this list and that is the purpose of the mappack (in my personal belief).
I'll get my maps up soon. If ChaoStar thinks as I do, then so be it. My maps shall not be included (and neither should many other people who have joined).
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If there are 99 people participating already, sign me up as the 100th. I'll make my 5 maps.
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Okayyy,
Either we sort the pack by age, or I'm not sure what to do, because frankly..
I dont know more than half these authors and ive been gone for two years.
Therefore they arent ancients..
wither age limit or the prior.
anddd i'll help sort
Either we sort the pack by age, or I'm not sure what to do, because frankly..
I dont know more than half these authors and ive been gone for two years.
Therefore they arent ancients..
wither age limit or the prior.
anddd i'll help sort
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I just read the entire thread and played all the maps so far. I would like to make some comments. (56k warning)
That's all for now. Expect some new potential maps from me soon.
- If there's an age limit, my oldest map (not the first I uploaded to NUMA) was posted on 2/22/06 (that's 22/2/06 for the non-Americans), so I think I'm good in that respect. I'm still a D-List neditor.
- I interpreted the first post to mean that we would be making this pack for the future neditors, to show them what maps were like at this time. Sort of like a time capsule. However, everyone seems to think that this is going to be made by older neditors for the current ones. I don't know what ChaoStar means, just throwing my 2 cents in.
- While I'm on the topic of "age," I think that all entrants be put to the test that the newer mapmakers are being put to. Quantity ≠ Quality. Okay, maybe not all, but most. Perhaps all Dronie winners could be exempt, or something like that.
- Going over the list at this point, roughly 1/7 of the participants I didn't recognize. This is probably because I usually don't pay attention to that sort of thing.
- You didn't invite gloomp‽
- Some good neditors made forum accounts just for this pack. That's a good sign.
- I think that the episodes should be oldest first. I understand that this isn't fair, but look at the alternatives. Ordering them by difficulty is too complicated, because what is difficult to one person may not be difficult to another. Ordering them by quality is not a good idea either, because you would want to stop playing if the pack got progressively worse.
That's all for now. Expect some new potential maps from me soon.
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Okay. Some things should be said.
First off, I don't think you should just be able to submit maps to NUMA with the tag moa to make it a Memoir map. I think it should be a serious mappack, and everyone should submit their five maps as attachments in the thread (or PM them to ChaoStar) and then the rest of the pack mappers should playtest and give feedback, and then the original author will tweak, revise, possibly the same process again, then NOT SUBMIT TO NUMA. This should be a mappack where maybe one map from every author is submitted as a taster and people have to download the rest of the pack and play it as a whole.
Secondly, I got the idea that this pack was being made by the authors of today for the authors of tomorrow. As in, eventually we will be ancient, and this is for the mappers of that time to look at and go, 'Hey, there's some cool stuff by some authors from a long time ago in there'. But I do believe quality should be sorely tested. I'd say, in all honesty, that my best maps are probably good enough for this, but I know for a fact that I've created some shit that I would not want included in a mappack. So this should be a heavily playtested, and it should be a lengthy project, not just something where everyone whips off five maps then is done.
That's my two cents. I want it to be great. That's basically what those two things will lead to.
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First off, I don't think you should just be able to submit maps to NUMA with the tag moa to make it a Memoir map. I think it should be a serious mappack, and everyone should submit their five maps as attachments in the thread (or PM them to ChaoStar) and then the rest of the pack mappers should playtest and give feedback, and then the original author will tweak, revise, possibly the same process again, then NOT SUBMIT TO NUMA. This should be a mappack where maybe one map from every author is submitted as a taster and people have to download the rest of the pack and play it as a whole.
Secondly, I got the idea that this pack was being made by the authors of today for the authors of tomorrow. As in, eventually we will be ancient, and this is for the mappers of that time to look at and go, 'Hey, there's some cool stuff by some authors from a long time ago in there'. But I do believe quality should be sorely tested. I'd say, in all honesty, that my best maps are probably good enough for this, but I know for a fact that I've created some shit that I would not want included in a mappack. So this should be a heavily playtested, and it should be a lengthy project, not just something where everyone whips off five maps then is done.
That's my two cents. I want it to be great. That's basically what those two things will lead to.
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Thank you.ChaoStar wrote:EDIT- KlanKaos is definitely in.
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I agree with KlanKaos, but that's not why I'm posting. Does using someone else's tileset count as a collab, or can we not submit them?
Somewhat related question: Remember the period of time when we could have near-infinite tags on our maps? If we change one of the tags now, does it cut it down to 5 tags?
Somewhat related question: Remember the period of time when we could have near-infinite tags on our maps? If we change one of the tags now, does it cut it down to 5 tags?
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KlanKaos, I agree with you on both accounts. This will be HUGE in numa history IF WE ACTUALLY TRY. Very good points.
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Thank you both.
bufar, I think if you separate words in a tag with spaces, it takes them as separate tags. So you could theoretically have infinite tags.
bufar, I think if you separate words in a tag with spaces, it takes them as separate tags. So you could theoretically have infinite tags.
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i agree with kaos's first statement. i no longer think it should be based on age. instead, it should be based on the quality of the maps submitted to the pack. kaos, you are correct in saying that everyone who submits to this pack will be canonized as ancients depending on how well remembered this pack is. i would like to add that because of that, we should go for as high quality a pack as possible, both so that the pack can be well remembered, and so that we don't indellibly print an unworthy mark on history. to repeat, we should judge the maps, and we should judge them on quality. we should judge them by a high standard. i think that maybe a quarter of the people on that list are probably not going to produce good enough maps for the pack. i don't want to hurt any feelings, but again, we must preserve the best, if that is truly our goal (which it seems to me to be)
on an unrelated note, i can vouch for minion_of_pi and erik_player. both demonstrate that age is almost completely irrelevant to quality.
on an unrelated note, i can vouch for minion_of_pi and erik_player. both demonstrate that age is almost completely irrelevant to quality.
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I already submitted one of my maps to NUMA, but I took off the moa tag.
Also, am I allowed to be in this thing or not?!? Half the people are like, "oh, you have to be at least 2 years old" or have 60 rated maps or something, so I'm confused.
Nvmd, thanks yungerkid :D
Also, am I allowed to be in this thing or not?!? Half the people are like, "oh, you have to be at least 2 years old" or have 60 rated maps or something, so I'm confused.
Nvmd, thanks yungerkid :D
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