Hip-hop

[maya]

The genre itself is no better or worse because of the people involved. The genre is better or worse based on the actual music. Since everyone is going to have differing opinions on that, there's no way you can say "this is a bad genre" or "this is a much better genre", etc. Personally, I hate rap, but I can understand why some people like it.

i disagree as i think the fans can sometimes reflect that type of music with their views. A lot of metal fans are quite aggressive and that is how the music sounds, a lot of rappers treat women like objects and that is how they talk about them in their lyrics as well.

[Tanner]

One of the most popular indie music groups right now are called MGMT and their single, Electric Feel, can only be described as disco. Every genre has it's followers.

[PALEMOON]

Furry Ant: Not all rap has lyrics like that. You've obviously never listened to quality rap. I recommend: KRS-One, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic Five, and Common. That should be a good starting point.

you forgot Blackalicious :)

[maya]

Furry Ant: Not all rap has lyrics like that. You've obviously never listened to quality rap. I recommend: KRS-One, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic Five, and Common. That should be a good starting point.

and i know not all rap is like that, thats why i said "i find SOME (not all) of the lyrics are meaningless".

because i can appreciate rap without those kind of lyrics.

[SlappyMcGee]

The reason disco isn't as popular today as it used to be is that disco wasn't a broad enough genre to write music in. They basically wrote most of the catchy hooks and danceable melodies by the early seventies, and then ABBA broke up. The very spirit of disco lives on today by virtue of music being produced for people to dance to, whether it be new rave or dance-punk or whatever.

Disco was defined by the people who listened to it, at least in my opinion. They all wanted to dance the night away, and that culture still exists today, albeit in a different way. To say that rap won't survive is also to say that nu-metal won't survive, that hip-hop won't survive, that none of the genres rap has touched will survive. And rap has touched a whole lot of genres.

The only reason people still listen to "rock" supposedly more than other previous genres is because rock is such a bland genre, basically everybody and their shoegazing brother can be considered a rock band.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

The reason disco isn't as popular today as it used to be is that disco wasn't a broad enough genre to write music in. They basically wrote most of the catchy hooks and danceable melodies by the early seventies, and then ABBA broke up. The very spirit of disco lives on today by virtue of music being produced for people to dance to, whether it be new rave or dance-punk or whatever.

Disco was defined by the people who listened to it, at least in my opinion. They all wanted to dance the night away, and that culture still exists today, albeit in a different way. To say that rap won't survive is also to say that nu-metal won't survive, that hip-hop won't survive, that none of the genres rap has touched will survive. And rap has touched a whole lot of genres.

The only reason people still listen to "rock" supposedly more than other previous genres is because rock is such a bland genre, basically everybody and their shoegazing brother can be considered a rock band.

How many different ways can you think of to ask a shawty ta git lo?

[SlappyMcGee]

The reason disco isn't as popular today as it used to be is that disco wasn't a broad enough genre to write music in. They basically wrote most of the catchy hooks and danceable melodies by the early seventies, and then ABBA broke up. The very spirit of disco lives on today by virtue of music being produced for people to dance to, whether it be new rave or dance-punk or whatever.

Disco was defined by the people who listened to it, at least in my opinion. They all wanted to dance the night away, and that culture still exists today, albeit in a different way. To say that rap won't survive is also to say that nu-metal won't survive, that hip-hop won't survive, that none of the genres rap has touched will survive. And rap has touched a whole lot of genres.

The only reason people still listen to "rock" supposedly more than other previous genres is because rock is such a bland genre, basically everybody and their shoegazing brother can be considered a rock band.

How many different ways can you think of to ask a shawty ta git lo?

Well, if Lil' Wayne's sales figures are any indication, 2.4 million times as well as pounds upon pounds of critical recognition.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

Well, if Lil' Wayne's sales figures are any indication, 2.4 million times as well as pounds upon pounds of critical recognition.

Why are we bringing sheeple's opinion into this?

[Borealis]

If we're talking mainstream, I stay as far away as I can from it. But alternative/underground hip-hop has really been growing on me in the past few months. Names like Zion I, Haiku d'Etat, Aesop Rock and Cannibal Ox if you were wondering.

[Nonoke]

There is nothing wrong with hip-hop or rap music. You can't be against the entire category just because many of today's songs are about violent and nasty things. There are some good rap songs, and they have nothing to do with violence, gangs, whores, or anything else you'd expect from today.

[otters]

Well, if Lil' Wayne's sales figures are any indication, 2.4 million times as well as pounds upon pounds of critical recognition.

Why are we bringing sheeple's opinion into this?

According to the sheeple on iTunes he sounds like he smokes "about a thousand joints" before every song.

[Lachesis]

huhhh....
Well, if you want my opinion:
The reason Lil' Wayne so many goddamn albums is that he raps about more than "super-soaking hoes", shooting up rival gangs, being a gangster, livin' in da hood and making songs just to promote a dance move.
Also, in my opinion, Almost all rap/hip-hop today is just the same thing over and over, just different wordings.

[Yoshimo]

If you were to tell the general American public in the 70's that disco was flippin' retarded, not a whole lot of people would listen then, but decades later it's an embarrassing part of the history of our culture.
I think we might have a similar sort of situation here.

Disco is awesome. While I've not been alive back then, I listen to disco nowadays. It's sweet.

Also, I almost never listen to rap, you can barely even consider it music. A lot of people say that rap is one of their favorite genres, but I would just consider it rhyming fast-talking essay's about street/gangster stuff.
It's not all bad though, as two of my friends got together and made a really cool anti-drug rap. It was pretty cool.

P.S. Tsukatu, you and I have opposite opinions on pretty much everything, weird.

[wolfgang]

Disco was defined by the people who listened to it, at least in my opinion. They all wanted to dance the night away, and that culture still exists today, albeit in a different way. To say that rap won't survive is also to say that nu-metal won't survive, that hip-hop won't survive, that none of the genres rap has touched will survive. And rap has touched a whole lot of genres.

This. Music is rarely identified as disco these days, but it's influence has bled into a bunch of other genres. Rap is a much broader genre than Disco, the only concrete element being the vocal delivery, every other facet of the music is open to evolve.

Also, I almost never listen to rap, you can barely even consider it music. A lot of people say that rap is one of their favorite genres, but I would just consider it rhyming fast-talking essay's about street/gangster stuff.
It's not all bad though, as two of my friends got together and made a really cool anti-drug rap. It was pretty cool.

Seriously, that's just a terrible opinion. Hell, all you had to do was read the thread to learn otherwise.

[noops]

As I've stated before, I'm probably the only black person I know who dislikes rap. Like, actually dislikes. Give Muse, The Decemberists, Arcitc Monkeys, Of Montreal, all that goodness, and loads more, any day.

But, like with literally everything, I can appreciate it. My mom (Caucasian) can't get enough of it. Though, the stuff she listens to is Christian, so it's not labout sex, drugs, guns, etc. My dad (African-American) is a rapper, but a small time one, I guess you could say. His stuff's not too hardcore, but then again, I haven't listened to it in a long while.


The only rapper(s) I can actually enjoy are a couple of DJs (Danger Doom), and maybe the Beastie Boys.

[Kool]

Atmosphere... personally i think slug pieces together rap in a very refined way.

although he does have his moments about sex,drugs,violence. my sig, haha :p
but he overall has a distinct care of the beauty of life that he incorporates in his music. imo

also aesop rock, their the shit too ;]

anyways i can can go on all day about rap artists, but overall beauty is in the eye of the beholder and thats all there is to it. :p

[bobaganuesh_2]

As I've stated before, I'm probably the only black person I know who dislikes rap. Like, actually dislikes. Give Muse, The Decemberists, Arcitc Monkeys, Of Montreal, all that goodness, and loads more, any day.

But, like with literally everything, I can appreciate it. My mom (Caucasian) can't get enough of it. Though, the stuff she listens to is Christian, so it's not labout sex, drugs, guns, etc. My dad (African-American) is a rapper, but a small time one, I guess you could say. His stuff's not too hardcore, but then again, I haven't listened to it in a long while.


The only rapper(s) I can actually enjoy are a couple of DJs (Danger Doom), and maybe the Beastie Boys.

ever hear of k-os?