N League

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.05.31 (21:11)

Is anyone care about N anymore...? Seriously... Why here aren't any official leagues like in a Soldat!? Watch http://sctfl.net! Can't we make so great community like there!? This community dies or even died! I would be pleasure to help with creating something like this... But community don't care about it...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.05.31 (21:38)

You're kinda comparing apples and grapefruits here. Soldat is multiplayer game, whereas N is single-player with score sharing system.
Our league are highscoring boards, and now and then there are competitions. They aren't held really often since there is only a small player base.

Anyway, who are you? Haven't seen you anywhere never.

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.06.01 (04:41)

vankusss wrote:You're kinda comparing apples and grapefruits here. Soldat is multiplayer game, whereas N is single-player with score sharing system.
Our league are highscoring boards, and now and then there are competitions. They aren't held really often since there is only a small player base.

Anyway, who are you? Haven't seen you anywhere never.

Pretty much it. Well said van, but I do love this kid's enthusiasm. If you are looking to run a contest of some sorts I am sure people will join. I will. Or if you have a revolutionary way we can play this game please let us know, we're all ears.

Having said that; if we had multiplayer co-op like N+ has and we had even 100 levels some seriously awesome teams would be formed and that would awesome for the highscores, especially in the number of views.

Personally I say we bring back battle lands and make a thread for it. That way we can all talk shit and post scores when we beat others. Those levels will be built up with some good highscores and speedruns. This game was actually pretty awesome. Thanks to Unreality it has highscore, speedrun, and underclock versions. It is constantly running and doesn't need a person to run it. If people all knew how to add the tag at the end of the map data more people would play. We should also make a, not binding, but general courtesy, not to make simple challenge or chimney maps. I feel I had a direct hand in ruining that game by just making chimney maps to completely wipe out bufar. So yeah, lets bring back Battle Lands.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.01 (07:58)

http://srl.sctfl.net

I was thinking about create some table like this http://srl.sctfl.net... Best map-creators from NUMA will support us. They will be giving maps for qualifications... Than the best 8 or 16 players will be added to table like this one http://imgh.us/sctfl16v2.png... There will be new maps for any 1v1 battle...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.01 (08:30)

Nonemoticoner wrote:http://srl.sctfl.net

I was thinking about create some table like this http://srl.sctfl.net... Best map-creators from NUMA will support us. They will be giving maps for qualifications... Than the best 8 or 16 players will be added to table like this one http://imgh.us/sctfl16v2.png... There will be new maps for any 1v1 battle...

Something like that requires a lot of time for managment. If you're up to it, do it, but please don't let it die once you start it.
Also reviving battle lands might be a good idea.

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.01 (08:30)

Nonemoticoner wrote:http://srl.sctfl.net

I was thinking about create some table like this http://srl.sctfl.net... Best map-creators from NUMA will support us. They will be giving maps for qualifications... Than the best 8 or 16 players will be added to table like this one http://imgh.us/sctfl16v2.png... There will be new maps for any 1v1 battle...

Something like that requires a lot of time for managment. If you're up to it, do it, but please don't let it die once you start it.
Also reviving battle lands might be a good idea.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.02 (08:43)

Ok, i can do it... But anyone can offer me some support like sub-domain http://league.ninjarobotyeti.com... Do anyone know good some admins on NUMA, because they will have to promo league and encaurage map-makers to create some maps for this contest...

Sorry, but... Can you explain me what are battle lands...? :)

http://www.nmaps.net/user/Aidiera · Postby **aids** » 2011.06.02 (09:04)

Nonemoticoner wrote:Ok, i can do it... But anyone can offer me some support like sub-domain http://league.ninjarobotyeti.com... Do anyone know good some admins on NUMA, because they will have to promo league and encaurage map-makers to create some maps for this contest...

Sorry, but... Can you explain me what are battle lands...? :)

Battle Lands info is here: http://forum.droni.es/viewtopic.php?f=4 ... &sk=t&sd=a

You won't get a sub-domain. You'll have to set it up off-site. Many of our users do that. NUMA is rather tricky to worth with, since the operator (Arachnid) hasn't been available to make changes. You can try talking to toasters, the current admin, and see if he'll make an announcement on the forums though.

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.02 (10:16)

First of all you should write down rules and the whole system, all the details, so they can be discussed and improved.
Don't do it in the style like 'maps->playing->happy league'.
The sub-domain or hosting questions should really be solved as the last. You need support from people and something to show them. Or something like that.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.02 (16:30)

vankusss wrote:First of all you should write down rules and the whole system, all the details, so they can be discussed and improved.
Don't do it in the style like 'maps->playing->happy league'.
The sub-domain or hosting questions should really be solved as the last. You need support from people and something to show them. Or something like that.

I've just wanted to know what i'm standing on! I need to be sure that my work wont be wasted...

I will think about these battle lands later... Also, i'll try to create league's rules this weekend...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.02 (16:58)

Nonemoticoner wrote:I've just wanted to know what i'm standing on! I need to be sure that my work wont be wasted...
I will think about these battle lands later... Also, i'll try to create league's rules this weekend...

Yea, you have our support. If it's any good it won't be wasted.
Also you don't have to think about battle lands. Just to be clear, it's running already, we were just thinking about bringing more attention to it.
Looking forward to the rules.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.02 (21:32)

Well, we can use those battle lands like a score submiter... But I will have to get their website's code, because i want to make separate battle land only for league...

Postby **otters~1** » 2011.06.02 (23:52)

Soldat! Soldat was cool!

What's "N"?

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.03 (07:08)

Nostromo wrote:Soldat! Soldat was cool!

What's "N"?

Talk about or leave this topic, please...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.03 (12:10)

Nonemoticoner wrote:Well, we can use those battle lands like a score submiter... But I will have to get their website's code, because i want to make separate battle land only for league...

I just have to ask, how old are you?

Because in general, do you honestly think Unreality will just hand over the source code of his site to you to do what you want? Seriously, I (and I think this is the case for most people) still have no idea who you are.
I'm not saying you should stop, just keep things in the 'reality' zone, don't plan something that's not possible.
Separate battle land for league? Am I missing something?
I don't see how battle lands could work as score submitted.

My advice: show us some thought-through rules and system, please.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.03 (18:20)

okay, i'll try to make something this weekend... And i'm machina - noone in N and someone in Soldat...

EDIT: Started creating Rules of league... It will be done today!

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.04 (12:31)

Ok, got something to start... Get download, it looks better in docx...

N League Rules (beta 1.0) by machina

N League Rules (beta 1.0)

• Before signing yourself up for the league, please make sure you have read all the rules and understand them. If you have any questions or concerns, contact one of the administrators or post in the forums.

League Format
• The league will be held on two stages: Qualifications and Finals
• All participants of league will be added to general table. Their results will be shown there.
• Qualifications will take one month. There will be 15 maps to pass. The maps will not be added at the same beginning of league. Administrators will be added them daily. So, participants won’t get last map earlier than 15th day of league.
• All results from 15 maps will be summed up and 16 players with the best times will be promoted to Finals. Not passed maps will be counted with time: 0.
• All promoted players will be randomly added to Finals’ Bracket.
• In Finals’ Bracket, there will be 15 battles between all players and there will be 15 maps for any of them. 1 battle = 1 another map.
• First part (1/8) of Finals will take 3 day. Secondly, Quarter Finals will take next 3 days. Than Semi-Finals will take 3 day, too. The Final will take 4 days.

Registering Restrictions
• If you want to join N League, you will have to create account on league’s forums. Than (while sign ups are open), you have to confirm your participation in a topic given by administrators in an announcement.
• Players have to use their nicknames used in N game.

Demo Submitting
• The participants’ results will be built by demos. Players can add their demos following links added by administrators on forums.
• Players can submit only 2 demos to 1 map. Second submitted demo will be their last to that map and marked like final.
• Demos cannot be shared anywhere more, because they can be stolen. Also, players sharing them will be banned.
• All demos have to be submitted before deadline date.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.06 (14:08)

Emmm...? you don't care anymore...?

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.06 (14:23)

Nonemoticoner wrote: League Format
• The league will be held on two stages: Qualifications and Finals
• All participants of league will be added to general table. Their results will be shown there.
• Qualifications will take one month. There will be 15 maps to pass. The maps will not be added at the same beginning of league. Administrators will be added them daily. So, participants won’t get last map earlier than 15th day of league.
• All results from 15 maps will be summed up and 16 players with the best times will be promoted to Finals. Not passed maps will be counted with time: 0.
• All promoted players will be randomly added to Finals’ Bracket.
• In Finals’ Bracket, there will be 15 battles between all players and there will be 15 maps for any of them. 1 battle = 1 another map.
• First part (1/8) of Finals will take 3 day. Secondly, Quarter Finals will take next 3 days. Than Semi-Finals will take 3 day, too. The Final will take 4 days.

Demo Submitting
• The participants’ results will be built by demos. Players can add their demos following links added by administrators on forums.
• Players can submit only 2 demos to 1 map. Second submitted demo will be their last to that map and marked like final.
• Demos cannot be shared anywhere more, because they can be stolen. Also, players sharing them will be banned.
• All demos have to be submitted before deadline date.

That sound exactly like BLUR 4 with a lot more maps. Also did you ever heard of NReality? In the current version, moh would won, since there is no mdb/fbf protection.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.06 (15:04)

Idk what's "BLUR 4", "moh", "mdb/fdf"...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.06 (17:25)

Nonemoticoner wrote:Idk what's "BLUR 4", "moh", "mdb/fdf"...

Then it's probably not a good idea for you to run a competition, even if that means there is none at all.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.07 (06:30)

Okay! Let community remember your decide like "We don't need league"... Cya!

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.07 (10:27)

Nonemoticoner wrote:Okay! Let community remember your decide like "We don't need league"... Cya!

I'm not the community's spokesman, everything I said was just my opinion. But given that I'm basically the only one responding to you in this thread, it might be so.

Postby **Nonemoticoner** » 2011.06.07 (14:27)

So, why are you banning my idea and help what i'm trying to give this community and game itself...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.06.07 (14:49)

Nonemoticoner wrote:So, why are you banning my idea and help what i'm trying to give this community and game itself...

As I said, I have no right to forbid you anything, but yours system has some serious flaws and I'm not in a mood of explaining them to you, since everybody who is anyhow active in N playing knows them. For example, why would we need to manually submit demos, when there's NReality?
I just have mixed feelings about this. How can we trust you that you'll run it to the end? That you won't abandon it in the middle, when you run out of enthusiasm? Competition like this takes A LOT of time to manage. Are you sure you can choose good maps? Etc.

Somebody else should throw their opinion, since I just feel like practicing my english with no other effect.

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