The "Real" N

[Donfuy]

Hell, I love you.


You "internet" boys make me sad :(

[Luminaflare]

Hey when this set of drama is over and we're in the lull between the next one we should novelise the last 5 years of the forum. Best seller I tells ya.

EDIT: Oh and on the trust thing? I've had the offer open for numerous metabuddies to come over to my house for a holiday, Blizz almost took up the offer, Pops -did- and a member most of you probably don't remember or even know of (AzMiLion) is organising with me for us to both end up in each others respective countries one day. This doesn't sound like much compared to two of you living together but keep in mind one member flew over 1000 miles to go somewhere that might not have existed, A bit harder to turn back than getting off of a train (No offense Dave/Blizz).

[SlappyMcGee]

Blizz namedropped AF and not me. I quit forever.

[Kablizzy]

Blizz namedropped AF and not me. I quit forever.

I've postcard chatted with this man's woman. I have seen Slappy's nipples. Both of them.

[Donfuy]

I have seen Slappy's nipples. Both of them.

Who...who hasn't!?

[SlappyMcGee]

I have seen Slappy's nipples. Both of them.

Who...who hasn't!?

I have a metarevelation. Any photo you've seen of me shirtless is really just a photo of half of me mirrored over.

[Donfuy]

Does that mean there's a possibility you actually only have one malformed nipple?

_________

:3 :3 :3 joking!

[Chase]

Incoming tower post! I was discussing about this on IRC but I just have too much to say and IRC doesn't cut it.

This community is a great community, regardless of what's just happened with blue_t it doesn't matter. This is because we're so tightly knit that the best members will only go somewhere else if we crumble. And then we'll just migrate back to Forumer if ninjarobotyeti dies. It doesn't matter who you are blue_t because in the end, your personal life isn't what makes us decide what you're like. It's how you come across as a person, many of the members respect you and while you were on staff that means everything in a community. If the members respect the staff that means that they will break the rules less and generally creates a nicer community.

I've been with you guys for around four years now, and this was the first community I signed up for (hell I even asked permission from my parents to sign up then because I was only 14 and hadn't done that before). The community at the time had some great members, and were very welcoming. Now four years on the community is just as great, the older members have moved on and new ones have come to take their place. IRC has expanded to a greater number of users than before, floating around the 50 mark (rarely got above 30 when I remember).

There's a reason I'm still with this community today, and that's because you're all great people to hang out with and talk to. You guys are continuously funny and have some good laughs. Even if we do jokingly insult each other you guys know not to take it too far, and that's the great thing. I don't think I've found such a good group of people in one place anywhere else.

You guys are awesome, and I toast to the Metanet Community. Live long and prosper!

[squibbles]

You know, I have one thing to say about how we've all come out of this as a group.

[SlappyMcGee]

You know, I have one thing to say about how we've all come out of this as a group.

I hope the community never accepts these kind of posts as substitute for images.

[Rhekatou]

In a way it's almost like finding out a good friend has been stealing things from you for the last 5 years.

As an aside that has actually happened to me.

I've been in both places.
He stole from me, and when I realized it I started stealing my stuff back. Then he crossed the line, I punched him in the face, and we never really talked again. That was in 3rd grade, and I just saw him yesterday at the library o.O

[Snuggletummy]

This entire fucking topic really makes me sad. I mean seriously, so much fucking drama, is that all you guys like to do with your time? Fucking bitch and moan about people lying? So, grow some fucking balls, and man the fuck up. Stop whining like little bitches about people making themselves look like something that they clearly aren't. Which, by the way, everything I've said is the truth, as liers can burn in hell for all I care. Also, to smartalco. About the whole "I could care less if you all die" speech you pulled out of your ass. You're so fucking sweet. So when you're belly up in your shithole of a grave, I'm going to personally shit on it and top it off with a giant bucket of piss, and hey, let me give you a proper introduction to this post.

WELCOME TO THE INTERNET

Also, about the trust thing, I completely trust LF, AzMiLion, and a few others. Just because a few people make a mistake doesn't mean the whole damned community is shit. So like I said before, grow the fuck up people.

[Spawn of Yanni]

Everything that needs to be said has been said.

[SlappyMcGee]

No way! If that were true, the thread would naturally die.

Watch it die!

[Kablizzy]

bumpin 4 lulz

[Rhekatou]

bumpin 4 lulz

Post stealer.
You've betrayed me.

[Kablizzy]

Mods: Leave the reported post up. I want to make sure it stays there for impact. Thanks. <3

[SlappyMcGee]

Mods: Leave the reported post up. I want to make sure it stays there for impact. Thanks. <3

Well, okay, but only because you say so.

[Yoshimo]

So I've been in this community for around one and third years, and I've grown to /respect/ Dave. Then I started using IRC, meeting people I hardly new were metanuts, and getting more involved in the forums and NUMA. At this point, I've grown to know and like Dave, sort of as a role model to some little kid that happened to find a person to look up to, which is exactly the case, including the little kid part. I was really pumped up when I heard Dave and Blizz were moving in together, "I'm part of /this/ community...!". Then they just left, I was sad for a day or two, then got over it. I learn about this, I'm not affected much, why? Well, I dunno, no matter what anyone says, Dave is still a good person, a respectable figure, sure as hell not a good role model though. I know he's alcoholic, but he's not some drunkard who's life revolves around downing beers. He's a good guy, is all I'm saying, one that I've known for a year.

And also, pretty much anyone who uses Vent can testify that I'm no older then thirteen. You guys can still speculate upon my gender though, but I can't think of a reason saying I'm a guy when I'm a girl will benefit or amuse me in any way.

[smartalco]

Also, to smartalco. About the whole "I could care less if you all die" speech you pulled out of your ass. You're so fucking sweet. So when you're belly up in your shithole of a grave, I'm going to personally shit on it and top it off with a giant bucket of piss, and hey, let me give you a proper introduction to this post.

Snugs, you might want to read a little closer. I actually said exactly the opposite of what you claim I did. Here is a direct quote from my first post in this thread.

This isn't to say I wouldn't be sad if you all died

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

I should shorten this post, because it's obnoxious, but it got to the point where I may as well have been stream-of-consciousness-ing the thing, and now I'm too lazy to read what the hell I just wrote. Normally I go through this process and then trim out the unnecessary details, but I've been making a sincere effort to get more sleep these days, and my bedtime is in negative three minutes. And if I start proofreading, I'll spend another hour here.

Or were you just looking for a chance to brag about your emotional disconnect? I mean, there isn't even anything unusually emotional going on here, and you've said very little that hasn't already been said. All I see here is the typical high dramatics from senior staff along with some generic comments from the plebs. It's all just business as usual, including your post there which fulfills your typical role in the community.

To be honest, I started skimming after page 1.
But hey, if I've unconsciously kept true to my role in the community, then all is well, isn't it?

Emotional responses aside, this shit is genuinely surprising. Two people (more if you're Blizz) have lied to us consistently for years.

Here's a true story from my life that describes almost exactly how I feel. Thank you for reminding me of it.
I went to the same middle school as my brother. He was two years older than me. The third person in this story is a girl who was a year younger than him (and therefore a year older than me). She was uncommonly ugly, and generally had few redeeming features. I wasn't friends with any of her friends or anything, so the most we cared about each other was that we knew who the other one was. I learned later on that she had a thing for my brother when we were all in middle school, but didn't particularly care when I heard that news. Years later, when I'm in high school, I'm invited to another school's dance by a friend, and lo and behold, it's the school this chick ended up going to. She asks me to dance a slow dance, so we're all close and everything, and we're just chatting. I lose focus almost immediately and start scoping out the hotties, while unconsciously giving her backchannel ("yep", "uh-huh") as she talks. All of a sudden, she puts her mouth right up to my ear and whispers, "I still do!" And then *BAM*, she separates from me and vanishes into the crowd, leaving me bewildered and alone on the dance floor. So I wander off, trying to figure out what she might've been talking about, when a couple of skanks come up to me and ask me if what they thought happened totally just happened. It was clear that they weren't fans of hers. "So did she seriously ask you out? You want us to tell her no for you? :D" And then I piece together that she had feelings for me in middle school and that she was still a-crushin'. If I may remind you -- I have absolutely no attachment to this person, and didn't expect her to have one for me, either. I didn't give a shit about her company or our conversation. I didn't care who she liked or didn't. She was just any other person to me, which put me in a position of total apathy when she made the dramatic gesture she did.
What did I do? I chatted up the skanks a bit, hung out a bit longer with the friend who invited me, and then I went home. Haven't seen her since. Wouldn't care if I did or didn't.

But anyway, in that moment when I realized that she had basically confessed her fondness for me, I felt almost exactly the same way as I feel right now. And that can be summed up with, "uh-huh, that's great."

So no, I'm sorry, people lying on the internet happens too frequently to be interesting. Dave was pretty nutty from the start, so I don't see how this is much different from any fake revelation he's made about his fake life of a faker. Though I guess I can't really comment on Borealis, since you say he's posted mostly about Music and I've hardly ever set foot in that forum. I just knew that he said he was, like, in his 30's once, and that he spoke a lot of languages. That's really all he made available about himself outside of those venues, really. Imagine you're hanging out in a lounge and chatting with friends, when this dude you don't know who has been sitting there for four hours jumps up and exclaims, "I've fooled you all along! My name is really Alec, not Alex!" You'd look at him a bit, blink a few times, and resume your conversation with your friends, wouldn't you? Them's the shoes I'm in.
See also: GIR as a turkey

Point being, when a guy is lit aflame and running down the street if your small Californian (?) home, you would be the guy going, "I saw this coming. This isn't surprising at all." while everybody else would be trying to put out the flames.

If he was playing with petrol for five years, I'd be laughing my ass off, yeah. I mean, I'm not malevolent enough to set the dude on fire. But if I pass by and he's already on fire? I'm getting marshmallows.

Suki neglects to realize that I engaged in this bluffery for five whole years, had a dude move in with me permanently under the auspices that I was this guy, had that guy live with me two months before it became interesting--not even necessary, but interesting--for me to divulge him my almost-every secret. This is big shit, but we can all look cool and shrug it off like Suki's /b/tard buddies--and I should hope we can do that. I never really thought it necessary to create drama with the news. I actually experienced what top scientists call remorse.

Probably because it wasn't relevant to what I was talking about? My focus is on drama in online communities, not a biography on Dave. If that is your real name!!

These lies were borne with Sisyphean solemnity until the moment I thought it fair to let a few friends take in the irony of the way I was double-acting for the people. Again, not for my amusement, but because I was locked there anyway. And it gets me off to amuse other people. I mean, for a time, I wasn't visiting Metanet. I was living there. And it was no small act. It's something I could novelize. If you reviewed every post of mine--the community's most frequent poster, by a wide margin--a guy that could be the poster child for posters--you'd see a delightful tapestry woven for your amusement.

This is the heart of it.
I already feel like a retard for spending as much time as I have here, even though I understand that it was necessary for my personal growth (in the areas of my life that did grow because of my time here, anyway). But why on Earth would you be proud of pouring in your heart and soul? It sounds to me a whole lot more like you're rationalizing an addiction. And scarily enough, I'm not even sure you realize you're coming off that way.

When you say that we should "never make any emotional attachment to a place where people can lie so easily", I think you neglect to realize that people--including myself--were also lying in real life, in many capacities. And still do. I said, and I still contend, that I'm not one to quickly "put myself out there", on the Internet or anywhere else. So I wasn't forthright with details about myself earlier on--many people aren't. Those people aren't necessarily liars. But I am! But that doesn't make me a bad person, all around. Just bad in that regard.

Nah, I thought I addressed that nicely when I said it was so easy to lie online. Cuz it is. Evidently. People can lie in person, too, but I'm much better at spotting liars in front of me than liars online. As is any human, I should think.

On the Internet, a lot of people change their personality, and act more outgoing or somesuch. (You, for example, have some sort of "Internet Suki" that's not at all like you, and we're not entitled to insult).

That was your own invention, remember? We talked about this. I brought up ice cream. The single phrase that made you diagnose me with DID was "I'm nicer in person." Hell, I could've said it over the radio or from behind a podium and it'd've carry the same weight.

We still cam together.

HOT.
How much do you charge?

Otherwise, how would a person of my upbringing have a near-encyclopedic knowledge of...

• "80's music": Grew up in the 80's.
• "business lore": Worked in the business sector for at least a year.
• "life experience shit": Spent time alive.
• "how to deal with relationships": Been in a relationship.
• "drugs, crime": Lived below middle class.
• "anime": Nerd.

You've described an awful lot of people, dude.

I didn't want to be pummeled by the fact you view your dismissal as somehow better than everyone else's dismissal.

And holy shit, I didn't want your life's fuckin' story. (You'll notice I'm contentedly ignoring most of what you said.) I skimmed through the thread after I saw a few people bitch, made what I thought were some fair assumptions, and then dumped a half-assed Suki rant. But my dismissal is better than everyone else's by virtue of being mine. And to you, details about your little adventure over the last five years are something you think I'm interested in, because you sure did unload a whole mess of 'em.
(On that note, sorry if I skipped over a few other things you meant for me to read, because I'm having difficulty devoting my energies to reading that post in detail, too.)

If you're really better than all of us--who have forged lasting connections during the last five years--then post up a self-satisfactory image joke; don't soapbox yourself to complete strangers whose opinions don't matter to you.

Well, for one thing, I don't need you to think something is awesome for me to think it's awesome. There's plenty of shit that amuses me that I keep to myself, and I don't need to explain it to other people in order for me to find it more enjoyable. And for another, those opinions of yours that don't matter to me are not validation for any wit I think I have. I don't need to see you acknowledge anything I say; I need only go through the motion of putting it up for you to see. Then I can say, "I think that's awesome, and I wrote it, and I said it openly. That's a win for me." The only reason I stick around for responses to what I say is for the interest in getting some more perspective.

I'm wondering if, Suki, you can directly relate your success at things with how much you invested concern into them.

Of course I can. For one thing, I did just say that I owe a considerable amount of progress in my theological and social interests to my time spent here. And in my real life, I can only think of a few other people who realize that getting what you want requires working for it. The difference is that I never expected anything aside from some narrow interests of mine to benefit from online activity, and from my admittedly limited perspective, I don't see that what you've gained is worth the effort you seem to have put into it. I pegged Blizz for the type to put life in a headlock and start making it his bitch some day, and I'm happy that it happened. It's all well and good to me that you were relevant to that, but you couldn't say that he wouldn't have done just as well or better on his own. At the very least, I wasn't capable of doing anything that would meaningfully help him, nor anyone else here, so I'm not exactly kicking myself for not involving myself more.

Bottom line is, it's great that you think you got something worthwhile out of this. I'm real happy for ya. You accused me a number of times of trying to be cold and impersonal, when in fact that's simply something I leave to personal connections. It's not even an effort -- if I can't see your face, then genuinely connecting with me is an exercise in futility. Not because I try and dutifully punish myself for straying from some code I made, but because that's just how I am. Nothing is easier than following your own nature.

I was gonna say more, but I forgot it. I think it was about wasting time instead of teaching myself things, and the accumulating pile of books and shit to teach myself that I'm going to look at meaningfully after I finish this sentence. There, I did it. It was like right out of a movie.


EDIT: OH!! I remember what it was:
If I could find some way of turning the phrase "Ive been lieing too you" into a meme, that would make my year. I envision it as coming out of nowhere in a close and endearing conversation, and revealing some utterly retarded fact that will nonetheless totally destroy the relationship. "I'm a horse" would be a prime example.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

Double-post, activate!

Snuggletummy's post was reported for abusive language. That made me lol.
Eat a dick, Skyling.

[Kablizzy]

You'd look at him a bit, blink a few times, and resume your conversation with your friends, wouldn't you? Them's the shoes I'm in.
See also: GIR as a turkey

Then go away and resume your "Not Caring" stance. It's not working very well for you at the moment. I'm actually kinda regretting giving you that pity admin spot. kinda.

[t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư]

You'd look at him a bit, blink a few times, and resume your conversation with your friends, wouldn't you? Them's the shoes I'm in.
See also: GIR as a turkey

Then go away and resume your "Not Caring" stance. It's not working very well for you at the moment. I'm actually kinda regretting giving you that pity admin spot. kinda.

I'm not going to please you 100% of the time. (I'll do my best, but baby, it was the liquor that time, I swear.)
You want a diverse team with diverse opinions? You're welcome.

[Kablizzy]

You'd look at him a bit, blink a few times, and resume your conversation with your friends, wouldn't you? Them's the shoes I'm in.
See also: GIR as a turkey

Then go away and resume your "Not Caring" stance. It's not working very well for you at the moment. I'm actually kinda regretting giving you that pity admin spot. kinda.

I'm not going to please you 100% of the time. (I'll do my best, but baby, it was the liquor that time, I swear.)
You want a diverse team with diverse opinions? You're welcome.

My ego tells me that I want a bunch of baby Blizzes running around conquering things for me. Call it vain, but diversity is overrated when you're this awesome.