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Postby crescor » 2010.07.01 (09:45)

It seemed (to me) that the original description of the book was only pointed at people who want to euthanize themselves (as you said).

After alot of thought, I think i changed my mind.
There would undoubtably be misuse of the book, and that should be avoided in any way.
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Postby Ar » 2010.07.03 (21:26)

No store should ever carry such a book.
Wait. No.
No AUTHOR should ever WRITE such a book.
That is not a topic that should be published.
Thats just not right.

If someone wants that book in your library, you ask why the hell they want it.
I know if I sold that book to someone and found out they were dead from suicide, I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
So I say no.
That book shouldn't be bought.
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Postby crescor » 2010.07.03 (21:37)

Ar wrote:No store should ever carry such a book.
Wait. No.
No AUTHOR should ever WRITE such a book.
That's just stupid, because THAT'S cencoring. Euthanasia has become an aspect of this life, wheter you want it or not. I think euthanasia itself (not with all the misuse etc.) is a good thing. You can't just ignore it.
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Postby Luminaflare » 2010.07.04 (01:33)

crescor wrote:
Ar wrote:No store should ever carry such a book.
Wait. No.
No AUTHOR should ever WRITE such a book.
That's just stupid, because THAT'S cencoring. Euthanasia has become an aspect of this life, wheter you want it or not. I think euthanasia itself (not with all the misuse etc.) is a good thing. You can't just ignore it.
To be perfectly honest censoring can be bad if overdone (example: China) but in moderation it's not a bad thing (example: Nothing overly violent or sexual in nature on daytime TV). How to commit suicide guides definitely fall in the should be censored bracket. Also on that note it also depends on how you censor, blocking it completely or just limiting it (china - daytime TV respectively), something like that should only be available from specialist places not public book stores and libraries, what happens if a kid gets a hold of this book somehow?

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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.04 (01:53)

Luminaflare wrote:... what happens if a kid gets a hold of this book somehow?
Almost certainly nothing. Or was that rhetorical?
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.04 (02:16)

I'm with Luminaflare here. I completely unironically would like to add: "There ought to be limits to freedom!"
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Postby Luminaflare » 2010.07.04 (12:22)

hairscapades wrote:
Luminaflare wrote:... what happens if a kid gets a hold of this book somehow?
Almost certainly nothing. Or was that rhetorical?
It wasn't, from what I understand this is essentially a step by step guide to commit suicide painlessly, a kid probably won't know what euthanasia is and damned if they don't try out what the book says before asking their parents.

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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.04 (12:46)

Luminaflare wrote:
hairscapades wrote:
Luminaflare wrote:... what happens if a kid gets a hold of this book somehow?
Almost certainly nothing. Or was that rhetorical?
It wasn't, from what I understand this is essentially a step by step guide to commit suicide painlessly, a kid probably won't know what euthanasia is and damned if they don't try out what the book says before asking their parents.
Oh come on. Are these the same kids who are out in the shed eating fertilizer? Or crossing a four lane highway without looking? Or licking electrical sockets while in the bath?

The chances of this hypothetical child being able to get their hands on this book, having enough interest to read something far above their reading level, being able to procure whatever supplies are necessary and then to carry out the instructions all without anyone with any responsibility noticing are about as likely as any of the other situations I've described. I think you've been watching too many G.I. Joe dubs.
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Postby Luminaflare » 2010.07.04 (20:24)

hairscapades wrote:
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hairscapades wrote:Almost certainly nothing. Or was that rhetorical?
It wasn't, from what I understand this is essentially a step by step guide to commit suicide painlessly, a kid probably won't know what euthanasia is and damned if they don't try out what the book says before asking their parents.
Oh come on. Are these the same kids who are out in the shed eating fertilizer? Or crossing a four lane highway without looking? Or licking electrical sockets while in the bath?

The chances of this hypothetical child being able to get their hands on this book, having enough interest to read something far above their reading level, being able to procure whatever supplies are necessary and then to carry out the instructions all without anyone with any responsibility noticing are about as likely as any of the other situations I've described. I think you've been watching too many G.I. Joe dubs.
1) I don't think GI joe was ever even on TV in england.

2) Why would anyone have electrical sockets in the bathroom?

3) True the chances of it actually happening are low but it is still possible and kids do try to cross four lane highways without looking. Also I don't just mean stupidly young kids, that book is probably in their reading level, also how do you know it requires any hard to get materials? as it stands we're still arguing about something we can't really check the content of.

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Postby crescor » 2010.07.04 (21:06)

Luminaflare wrote: as it stands we're still arguing about something we can't really check the content of.

I know, I'm sorry. I still haven't got the book, the first person that has borrowed it still hasn't returned it (uhoh) but I reserved it and as soon as it's back I'll read it.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.04 (21:46)

crescor wrote:I still haven't got the book, the first person that has borrowed it still hasn't returned it (uhoh)....
Hahahaha! That's awful.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.05 (01:44)

Luminaflare wrote:
2) Why would anyone have electrical sockets in the bathroom?
Electric Razor??
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Postby blackson » 2010.07.05 (04:06)

crescor wrote:I know, I'm sorry. I still haven't got the book, the first person that has borrowed it still hasn't returned it (uhoh)...
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.07.06 (05:38)

Luminaflare wrote:2) Why would anyone have electrical sockets in the bathroom?
I could name twenty reasons, probably. Hair dryer being one, ironing board being another.
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Postby Luminaflare » 2010.07.06 (15:56)

SBD wrote:
Luminaflare wrote:2) Why would anyone have electrical sockets in the bathroom?
I could name twenty reasons, probably. Hair dryer being one, ironing board being another.
Like there are literally no electrical sockets in bathrooms in the UK, I think it's against building regulations.

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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.07.06 (16:08)

Luminaflare wrote:
SBD wrote:
Luminaflare wrote:2) Why would anyone have electrical sockets in the bathroom?
I could name twenty reasons, probably. Hair dryer being one, ironing board being another.
Like there are literally no electrical sockets in bathrooms in the UK, I think it's against building regulations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical ... ed_Kingdom

Yeah, how strange that is.
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SlappyMcGee wrote:
Luminaflare wrote:Like there are literally no electrical sockets in bathrooms in the UK, I think it's against building regulations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical ... ed_Kingdom

Yeah, how strange that is.
That's weird. What are these 'special pull-cord ceiling switches and "shaver sockets" with built-in isolation transformers'? Do they allow Britons to use electrics like chargers and hair dryers in their bathrooms like normal people?
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Postby Tanner » 2010.07.06 (17:16)

The only electrical appliances allowed in British bathrooms are CCTV cameras.
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Postby Luminaflare » 2010.07.07 (00:39)

TELESYNC wrote:
SlappyMcGee wrote:
Luminaflare wrote:Like there are literally no electrical sockets in bathrooms in the UK, I think it's against building regulations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical ... ed_Kingdom

Yeah, how strange that is.
That's weird. What are these 'special pull-cord ceiling switches and "shaver sockets" with built-in isolation transformers'? Do they allow Britons to use electrics like chargers and hair dryers in their bathrooms like normal people?
To be fair there really are not many bathroom electrocutions though.


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