Metanet 0ths Thread

[golf]

Brilliant! I can't believe that nobody had seen that possibility before.

[TheRealOne]

took 92-4 0th by over 2 seconds with a nice innov, hard to believe there was so much time left in that one.

=O

I have nothing clever to say. Absolutely incredible. With innovations like that the highscore community could use you. I hope to see more from you. Your NUMA speedruns are always great, but maybe it's time to step up to the big show.

EDIT: For those of us who have been around since the old days, remember when people thought it was maxed at 106.125 and the board was filled with 20 of those. HAHAHA.

[ToeFaceKiller]

took 92-4 0th by over 2 seconds with a nice innov, hard to believe there was so much time left in that one.

=O

I have nothing clever to say.

That's one tight squeeze!! ha ha .. oh my.

Anyways yes, amazing find Pony!

[ska]

amazing innov there, Pony... but TRO, I barely think i remember when there were 20 106.125 scores... kryX had always had the 0th, legit or not from as long as I could remember...

[EddyMataGallos]

Haha wow thats awesome Pony! :O Unbelievable nobody saw it, thats one great innov =D

[Izzy]

Wow, Iooking at that, I'm sure you can sqeeze 3 seconds out of 59-1. :O

[TheRealOne]

Wow, Iooking at that, I'm sure you can sqeeze 3 seconds out of 59-1. :O

Even though Raif only beat you by .425? I can't wait to see that innovation.

Also anyone else wanna see Raif beat the first drone going up and then the second drone even earlier on 92-4? lol I hope that is possible. Doubt it though.

EDIT: I wonder if xaelar has seen this yet. I am assuming so, but I am sure he is not enthused. He wen't from having 0th with a frame perfect, maxed, run, to 2.100 seconds back...

[ska]

Wow, Iooking at that, I'm sure you can sqeeze 3 seconds out of 59-1. :O

TRO, I know you're a sick motherfucker and all, but Izzy's comment smacks of 21st century sarcasm of the Gullibullony Region.

[vankusss]

21-0 with route change
PS: used that account to not take another spot

[ska]

21-0 with route change
PS: used that account to not take another spot

how thoughtful... also, cool route switch up... that level has had a lot of path changes in its time...

[vankusss]

It was hell of a thoughtful brave activity.

Took Lim's 32-3 with cleaning and better end.

[TheRealOne]

It was hell of a thoughtful brave activity.

Took Lim's 32-3 with cleaning and better end.

Very nice run. Every corner push was done perfectly. I actually really enjoyed watching that run. It was very clean and the fact that it didn't contain any crazy tricks actually made it very entertaining. Ballsy move on that second to last fall really cutting that corner hard and barely missing the mine. And the final drone dodge looks great. Awesome run overall. A very solid improvement, nicely done.

I am telling you, xaelar and you should erase Lim from all of the 0th positions. Nothing against Lim, it would just be for the lols.

[vankusss]

Very nice run. Every corner push was done perfectly. I actually really enjoyed watching that run. It was very clean and the fact that it didn't contain any crazy tricks actually made it very entertaining. Ballsy move on that second to last fall really cutting that corner hard and barely missing the mine. And the final drone dodge looks great. Awesome run overall. A very solid improvement, nicely done.

I am telling you, xaelar and you should erase Lim from all of the 0th positions. Nothing against Lim, it would just be for the lols.

Heh thx.
I'll give that Lim-erasing project a try over the summer probably, though I would prefer some new levels to play and create routes for. I'm sure it would bring some new players.

[vankusss]

98-0 with my old route
98-2 with dunno if new route (it might have been used in past)

on the other note pony took 5-3, i like that route

EDIT: also ep 98 with 2 missed gold :/ => crappy runs, but gives me another ep ownage with asterisk, i guess

[vankusss]

95-1 with lololol route

[TheRealOne]

98-0 with my old route
98-2 with dunno if new route (it might have been used in past)

on the other note pony took 5-3, i like that route

EDIT: also ep 98 with 2 missed gold :/ => crappy runs, but gives me another ep ownage with asterisk, i guess

95-1 with lololol route

I have been away since I just started my new job. It is second shift so I am not on the computer much anymore. I missed some awesome stuff here. 98-0 is great. I actually like to watch your run more than Analu's. That ending is harder though with your route. It has to be timed instead of just working out.

Pony's 5-3 is awesome. A great route change. Someone has to go for that extra piece of gold. Kryx can be beaten.

Your 98-2 is great too. That is very similar to the old route, though with some minor differences. Very well executed. I doubt there is much more in that run for someone to beat you. Your 95-1 route is actually extremely well done. your section on the right side was so much fast going up than going down like Lim does. Excellent work.

[ska]

Your 98-2 is great too. That is very similar to the old route, though with some minor differences. Very well executed.

Yes, I distinctly remember an older highscorer (I initially thought spect but upon reflection of older NHigh files I suspect it's more likely I was thinking of Brett_Sully, Seifer or maybe even sammage!? It's possible a lot used the 'reverse' route prior to my arrival, but i thought of it as more of a slower alt route... nice to see it can be faster, if only just... nice runs anyway, van, especially 95-1... never would have seen that coming... i did entertain the idea, but in practice my runs were whole seconds slower than the 0th at the time so I dismissed the idea... you, on the other hand, have implemented some clever tactics in that run.. so props.

[vankusss]

Thx, I was probably more surprised about 95-1 than you. I noticed now, that dark was using the reversed route, too, but he didn't notice my begin, which cost him 0th. When I was doing the run I thought everyone is going right, though (checked only last few spots and top ones).

[vankusss]

ep 61 from hendor, with 1 missed gold
nothing special, just took advantage of the new routes

EDIT: also ska brought some competition to 95-1, so it's now .775 faster than old route, which is quite a lot
and according to poll results, what's the plan? I would prefer some kind of competition, where there isn't a playoff, that means you can do incredibly well on all maps, but then you just face someone in semifinals who finds a better route and everything is lost. Sure it adds some kind of prestige to be in semifinals, but isn't really fair in a global view. The only thing how to make it OK is to have NHL playoff system (best of 7) but that's just way too much for 1 comp, since it would run several months probably. The other thing is, that league would run as long if not longer. We'll see how Nerratic (or how it's spelled) works out, but as I see it, it's kinda 'hurray let's do something without thinking it through'. I still don't see the aim of that one, or how the winner is determined.

[TheRealOne]

ep 61 from hendor, with 1 missed gold
nothing special, just took advantage of the new routes

EDIT: also ska brought some competition to 95-1, so it's now .775 faster than old route, which is quite a lot
and according to poll results, what's the plan? I would prefer some kind of competition, where there isn't a playoff, that means you can do incredibly well on all maps, but then you just face someone in semifinals who finds a better route and everything is lost. Sure it adds some kind of prestige to be in semifinals, but isn't really fair in a global view. The only thing how to make it OK is to have NHL playoff system (best of 7) but that's just way too much for 1 comp, since it would run several months probably. The other thing is, that league would run as long if not longer. We'll see how Nerratic (or how it's spelled) works out, but as I see it, it's kinda 'hurray let's do something without thinking it through'. I still don't see the aim of that one, or how the winner is determined.

Honestly the problem with bracket competitions is that if you have a lot of people you need a long time. Or if you do "best of" type rounds you also need a lot of time.

I was thinking of a different type of competition, but there isn't really one winner and it is/could be an on going game, so it may end up like battle lands. But what I was thinking is make a competition like "super mario video quiz" if you don't know what that is youtube it. But basically what happens is someone (usually the competition host) thinks of a challenge to be completed, now this can be anything. Like complete level A with out getting item B. Or complete level A with the least amount of jumps. So if this happens we will need some brain storming of cool ideas of challenges.

The way scoring works is that there are points associated with each challenge and players accumulate points base on how many of the challenges they are able to complete. The challenges that are just "complete this challenge" are worth a set number of points and any and all who finish the challenge by the dead line recieve those points. Other challenges are Timed challenges. Where you have to complete whatever challenge is presented, but you are also completing against the others players. The points associated with that challenge are then divided up based on how fast you were compared to the other players that completed it.

It is an interesting game I think people would like it because every challenge is different, so people who are good at innovating, highscoring, speedrunning, route building, ... etc. will have an equal chance of being the best. Also it gets people thinking so I am partial to this type of game.

Just for a more concrete example of what a challenge may look like. "Complete level 54-4, opening exactly 7 locked doors (the exit does not count as a door), this is a timed challenge in frames." I will always make sure to differentiate between times in seconds or frames because if it is timed in seconds the player with the most time remaining on the clock after completing the challenge will win, ie. gold comes in to play. If timed in frames think of it as speedrunning, complete the challenge in the least number of frames possible.

So what do you think? Anyone want to play that?

[ska]

I know where you're coming from with the video quiz, as I do subscribe to Super Mario 64 video quizzes, although I do not actively participate, chiefly because they are elite players and I like to use a console for SM64. We need a competition with stability, integrity, competition and most importantly: fun factor.

[vankusss]

According to ska's post, a new poll is up!

TRO I would for sure play that, though we need to find out how many such challenges are possible to come up with. We might need help from mappers, so a topic/irc discussion needs to be started somewhere where both groups tend to occur. Or something like that. Maybe some rules for those challenges, dunno.

[ska]

reclaimed 95-1 by a frame with a 'minivation'. .550ish with one missed on a couple of occasions so I don't expect to hold it for long...

[vankusss]

9-2 with innov

[EddyMataGallos]

phew finally took 65-2, finally another 0th ;)
btw i like how 95-1 is evoluting, also good innov at 9-2