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Postby Lenny » 2008.12.10 (00:04)

Most people have heard Viva La Vida. Nominated for seven Grammys, including "Song Of The Year", and now the second-best selling song on iTunes this year, it's a pretty big deal.

However, in recent news, Coldplay is being sued by Joe Satriani for copying "substantial original portions" of his all-instrumental piece from 2004, "If I Could Fly".

So, what do you think? There's a brilliant comparison video on Youtube, which overlaps the two songs to show similarities. Check that out here.

Alternatively, just look up either song on YouTube and you're sure to find a video.

There are also news articles on MTV, and Yahoo News, not to mention hundreds of other sites if you just look it up on Google.


So, what do you think?

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Postby a happy song » 2008.12.10 (00:12)

The world is a tiny place, so tiny that every now and then people will produce creative works that a similar enough to be compared in this way.

The main melody is quite generic anyway, I'm pretty sure these aren't the first two guys in the history of everything to use it.

All I really know is that album makes sounds that induce involuntary feverish and violent spasms whenever I'm unfortunate enough to be in local proximity to them.
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Postby TribulatioN » 2008.12.10 (00:13)

Ah yes, the great Coldplay scandal version 2.0.
I still think that it's purely coincidental or just Chris Martin and Co. getting inspired to the extreme.
I take Coldplay's side in this.

Version 1.0.

Coldplay's Viva La Vida vs. Creaky Boards' The Songs I Didn't Write
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Postby wedgie » 2008.12.10 (02:05)

The similarities are almost identical. Coldplay are a bunch of bumholes anyway so I side with Satriani on this. It might bring them down of their ridiculously high pedestal that they seem to think they sit on.

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Postby capt_weasle » 2008.12.10 (02:33)

God forbid two songs sound similar. I think everyone is overreacting.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2008.12.10 (03:06)

Thank god Pachelbel is no longer alive. He'd be suing half of the music industry by this point.
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Postby T3chno » 2008.12.10 (05:54)

I think Vanilla Ice would know what to do here.
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Postby Lenny » 2008.12.10 (06:46)

Tsukatu wrote:Thank god Pachelbel is no longer alive. He'd be suing half of the music industry by this point.
Hahaha. That's true, although once the song is over 20 or something years old the creative commons licence on it expires - however the producer may choose to renew it as I assume happens with a lot of modern music.

And as to the Creeky Board scandal, I saw about that as well, though I think that was just the writer of a small band trying to get himself more known.

Anyway, personally I think I may be on Satriani's side in this, because it just sounds so similar. Now all he has to do is prove that they heard it... hmm.

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Postby wolfgang » 2008.12.10 (07:02)

Someone actually told me that this predated both the Satriani and Coldplay songs (I can't really verify that). Just an interesting addition either way.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G57CgtX-BsI

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Postby T3chno » 2008.12.10 (07:13)

Heh.
Rock royalty vs pop paupers

Coldplay

* Chris Martin is widely considered one of the most influential musicians of his generation, and was acclaimed as "heir apparent to Bono" on the band's last tour in 2006.

* Coldplay boast 447,546 friends on MySpace and 222,985 fans on Facebook.

* Coldplay are signed to Parlophone, part of EMI.

* Chris Martin is married to the actress Gwyneth Paltrow.

Creaky Boards

* Andrew Hoepfner's biggest endorsement so far comes from a New York free paper, The Village Broadsheet: "His songs hit on a strange-but-perfect kink-swing tradition"

* Creaky Boards have 1,873 friends on MySpace. They don't bother with Facebook.

* Creaky Boards are still looking for a record deal.

* Andrew Hoepfner's marital status is unknown.
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Postby capt_weasle » 2008.12.10 (07:30)

I think it's funny Creaky Boards based their evidence on the fact they "thought they say Chris Martin in the crowd." And George Lucas stole my idea for a lightsaber when he was at my school's film festival when I used a light bulb for a sword in my movie. Jerk.
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Postby a happy song » 2008.12.10 (07:31)

Techno wrote: * Chris Martin is widely considered one of the most influential musicians of his generation, and was acclaimed as "heir apparent to Bono" on the band's last tour in 2006.
And their music didn't make me despair enough. The Bono reference says it all...
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Postby 乳头的早餐谷物 » 2008.12.10 (09:35)

I think I've now heard four different songs that Coldplay are claimed to have plagiarised for Viva La Vida.
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Postby Atilla » 2008.12.10 (10:46)

maestro wrote:I think I've now heard four different songs that Coldplay are claimed to have plagiarised for Viva La Vida.
My theory is that time has formed a stable loop and they all plagiarised each other in sequence.

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Postby Lenny » 2008.12.10 (12:39)

maestro wrote:I think I've now heard four different songs that Coldplay are claimed to have plagiarised for Viva La Vida.
What's the fourth? I only see the one Techno posted, the Creaky Boards one, and Satriani's version.
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Postby Deathconciousness » 2008.12.10 (12:57)

I'm fairly sure this will go the way of the Cat Steven's (Father & Son) vs The Flaming Lips (Fight Test) case, and there will be royalties rewarded, but it will be partial and settled outside of court.

But i could be wrong. As much of a dissenter that i am of Coldplay, i dislike Satch far far worse.
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Postby wedgie » 2008.12.10 (13:04)

I think that in all fairness, some riffs will inevitably sound very similar or even identical to other songs.

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Postby Skyling » 2008.12.10 (20:50)

Hey, maybe Coldplay should just make original music!
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Postby a happy song » 2008.12.10 (21:34)

Skyline wrote:Hey, maybe Coldplay should just stop makeing original music!
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Postby Lenny » 2008.12.11 (00:09)

Snap. :D

I'm not sure, though. I don't listen to their music, but I hear they're pretty well liked. You can never have all of the market.
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Postby Zephyr » 2008.12.27 (08:40)

I heard on the radio a week after viva la vida was released that some band thought viva la vida was plagiarising their song too, they said they saw coldplay in the crowd at their concert, and at first they were pretty happy (famous band going to your concert? Who wouldnt be). Until viva la vida was released, and they got pretty pissed at coldplay too.
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Postby Lenny » 2008.12.27 (09:40)

z3phyr wrote:I heard on the radio a week after viva la vida was released that some band thought viva la vida was plagiarising their song too, they said they saw coldplay in the crowd at their concert, and at first they were pretty happy (famous band going to your concert? Who wouldnt be). Until viva la vida was released, and they got pretty pissed at coldplay too.
Mhmm. Check out what Tribulation said earlier, which is what I think you're referring to.
TribulatioN wrote:Ah yes, the great Coldplay scandal version 2.0.
I still think that it's purely coincidental or just Chris Martin and Co. getting inspired to the extreme.
I take Coldplay's side in this.

Version 1.0.

Coldplay's Viva La Vida vs. Creaky Boards' The Songs I Didn't Write
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Postby Zephyr » 2008.12.27 (23:45)

Yeah, something to do with creaky boards :)
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[13:51:01] <WorldCupE> WHAT
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[13:51:12] <WorldCupE> how
[13:51:12] <Zeph> everyone wears out halfway through the match
[13:51:15] <WorldCupE> ._.
[13:51:17] <WorldCupE> you
[13:51:19] <WorldCupE> aren't
[13:51:20] <WorldCupE> here
[13:51:24] <WorldCupikaze> I think the broadcasters lowered the volume for certain frequencies
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[13:51:38] <WorldCupikaze> STOP IT ZEPH
[13:51:46] <WorldCupE> he's in #n
[13:51:49] <WorldCupE> but not here
[13:51:58] <Zeph> that nz guy wasn't fouled
[13:52:05] <WorldCupikaze> DUBBLE YOO. TEE. EFF.
[13:52:05] <WorldCupikaze> STOPIT
[13:52:29] <WorldCupE> I don't think Zeph can read what we say
[13:52:38] <WorldCupikaze> No
[13:52:41] <WorldCupikaze> But it still happens
[13:52:46] <WorldCupE> xD
[13:52:47] <Zeph> holy shot I'm vibrating to 1950s relaxing jazz
[13:52:58] <WorldCupE> ZEPH
[13:53:01] <WorldCupE> CAN YOYU HEAR ME
[13:53:20] <WorldCupE> donfuy
[13:53:23] <WorldCupE> have you seen this
[13:53:35] <Donfuy> i can't
[13:53:43] <WorldCupE> can't what
[13:53:47] <WorldCupE> Zeph isn't here
[13:53:48] <WorldCupikaze> WHAT's GOING ON
[13:53:51] <WorldCupE> but is speaking
[13:53:51] <WorldCupE> D:
[13:53:58] <Donfuy> can't see what huh?
[13:54:06] <WorldCupikaze> IT'S THE APOCALYPSE
[13:54:10] <Donfuy> where's zeph o_o
[13:54:18] <WorldCupE> precisely
[13:54:21] <WorldCupikaze> Exactly
[13:55:21] <WorldCupikaze> call wide
[13:55:24] <Zeph> Pooh
[13:55:28] <WorldCupikaze> EH?
[13:55:37] <WorldCupikaze> OOOOOOOOoh
[13:55:38] <Zeph> amazing slide tackle saves day
[13:55:48] <WorldCupikaze> WHY ARE YOU TALKING YOU AREN'T HERE
[13:56:53] <WorldCupikaze> call wide
[13:57:02] -->| Zeph ([email protected]) has joined #Worldcup

[13:32:33] |<-- Zeph has left irc.mountai.net (Quit: Zeph)
[13:32:43] <WorldCupE> ZEPH D:<
[13:32:44] <Zeph> fucking irc app
[13:32:47] <WorldCupE> O_O
[13:32:50] -->| Zeph ([email protected]) has joined #Worldcup

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Postby aids » 2008.12.28 (03:58)

I side with Coldplay. I mean, what are the chances that Chris Martin would've heard The Creaky Boards' song?

here are some other song rip-offs.

plus, another reason to hate Nickelback.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2008.12.29 (03:37)

The Satch is a good guy, and an excellent musician, but I doubt Coldplay listens to him.
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