Which one's better? PS3, 360 or Wii?

[MattKestrel]

Damn, I thought this topic was lost forever...

... can someone lock this? It's seen all of the use it's going to have and any more posts would just be flamebaits/spam.

[SlappyMcGee]

"although PS3 does eventually recoup it's loses, it would take so long to do so that by then it would have become relatively obsolete... And with Live at £40 a year, that means the PS3 only becomes cheaper circa 2013"

This statement is sodding false. Compare prices to similarly marketed machines:
XBOX 360, 300 Dollars with One Game. Bringing that to a grand total of value to roughly 250 dollars.
PS3, 400 dollars with no game but 20GB more of hard drive space. Can't really quantify that, so we'll leave it at 400$.

Now, with XBOX LIVE being -fifty- dollars a year, and Playstation Network being free, it takes -three- years to recoup your losses. Which is not only within the life of the system if you start now, it's already happened if you jumped on the boat at launch.

Stop arguing price. Stop arguing efficiency of online service, because nothing you say is concrete. Like the native games more? Whatever. That's the only place you can argue.

[Luminaflare]

I may be a bit off on this but kotaku showed what percentage of games were over 85 on metacritic.

360: 13%

PS3: 17%

Wii: 4%

[Donfuy]

I may be a bit off on this but kotaku showed what percentage of games were over 85 on metacritic.
Wii: 4%

Haha, no surprise, the amount of ridiculous games for the Wii is... uhm... ridiculous.


On the other consoles,
As far as I know, Xbox 360 has more games available than the PS3, so doesn't the 4% difference have something to do with that?

[SlappyMcGee]

I may be a bit off on this but kotaku showed what percentage of games were over 85 on metacritic.
Wii: 4%

Haha, no surprise, the amount of ridiculous games for the Wii is... uhm... ridiculous.


On the other consoles,
As far as I know, Xbox 360 has more games available than the PS3, so doesn't the 4% difference have something to do with that?

A larger sample would only denote more accurate results.

[Drathmoore]

This statement is sodding false. Compare prices to similarly marketed machines:
XBOX 360, 300 Dollars with One Game. Bringing that to a grand total of value to roughly 250 dollars.
PS3, 400 dollars with no game but 20GB more of hard drive space. Can't really quantify that, so we'll leave it at 400$.

Now, with XBOX LIVE being -fifty- dollars a year, and Playstation Network being free, it takes -three- years to recoup your losses. Which is not only within the life of the system if you start now, it's already happened if you jumped on the boat at launch.

Stop arguing price. Stop arguing efficiency of online service, because nothing you say is concrete. Like the native games more? Whatever. That's the only place you can argue.

Over in America. In Britain, it's a bit different, but then again prices have changed a lot recently...

Anywho, I agree. No more arguing over price.

[PsychoSnail]

I may be a bit off on this but kotaku showed what percentage of games were over 85 on metacritic.
Wii: 4%

Haha, no surprise, the amount of ridiculous games for the Wii is... uhm... ridiculous.


On the other consoles,
As far as I know, Xbox 360 has more games available than the PS3, so doesn't the 4% difference have something to do with that?

A larger sample would only denote more accurate results.

Which would mean that the PS3 results are not as accurate.
Also, in this case, the absolute numbers rather than the percentages would be more useful.

[Luminaflare]

First the total amount of metacritic games for each platform.

Wii: 394

Xbox 360: 609

PS3: 323

Ok going by anything that is 75 or over on metacritic (In other words it gets a green review box)

Wii: 77

Xbox 360: 233

PS3: 144

85 or over

Wii: 19

Xbox 360: 60

PS3: 45

90 or over (As in the best of the best for said console)

Wii: 8

Xbox 360: 20

PS3: 13


Now for just 360 vs PS3 I'm removing cross platform games and comparing exclusives for 90+

Xbox 360: 9 (10 including GTAIV DLC lost and damned)

PS3: 4

[Atilla]

I may be a bit off on this but kotaku showed what percentage of games were over 85 on metacritic.

360: 13%

PS3: 17%

Wii: 4%

Which is fairly meaningless. Firstly, as has been pointed out, absolute numbers would be more sensible. Secondly, since the systems all have hundreds of games, there's a selection of good games regardless of which console you own. I've bought half a dozen games for the Wii since the start of this year, and they're all above 85 on Metacritic - it's not like I'm starved for good stuff. Then there's the fact that most of the highest ranking games on the XBox and PS3 also run on my PC, so their existence isn't really an argument in favour of either console for me. Oh, and those numbers don't take variety into account, so Guitar Hero 1, 2, 3, World Tour, Legends of Rock, etc. pump the count up even though they're pretty much a series of expansion packs for the same game. Finally, it's down to personal taste. I'd rather have Brawl and Mario Galaxy than, for example, NHL 09.

All this also assumes the Metacritic score is actually an accurate reflection of the game's quality. Out of curiosity, I looked at the 7th game for each system: Oblivion for PS3, Okami for Wii, Halo 3 for XBox. Review scores: 93, 90, 94. User ratings: 8.2, 9.1, 7.4, the opposite order to the reviews. That's quite a bit of variance, and only confirms my belief that review scores should not be taken as gospel.

[Luminaflare]

Just a couple of notes I guess: I'm not biased towards any console, I like them all and they all have their own advantages and disadvantages. As for the metacritic stuff It's not exact but it makes a good estimate not a good absolute, you most certainly have to take all reviews with a pinch of salt, for example a football game could get say 99 but if you don't like football or football games that doesn't matter it's still not the game for you but say you were looking for a good first person shooter seeing what has a high review average is a good idea because something with say a 1/100 is certainly worse than something with say 85/100. Metacritic is also not that useful for the newest games since there isn't enough reviews about to get a good average.

Either way a console shouldn't be decided whether it's better than another or not for its game library (I mean hell, you want a vast game library you get a PC).


I lost my train of thought...

[Alex777]

Xbox 360. Here is why. Cheaper, better exclusive games/DLC. Just to name a few.

[Drathmoore]

Xbox 360. Here is why. Cheaper, better exclusive games/DLC. Just to name a few.

Yay! Argueless opinion!

Either way a console shouldn't be decided whether it's better than another or not for its game library (I mean hell, you want a vast game library you get a PC).

Unless of course there's particular games for a system (i.e. Zelda, Mario for Wii). But in general, I perfectly agree with you.

And there's also the fact that the latest computers are more powerful than the three consoles combined. I get the feeling that if this topic had been PS3, 360, Wii or PC, then the PC would wipe the floor with everything...

[Luminaflare]

Unless of course there's particular games for a system (i.e. Zelda, Mario for Wii). But in general, I perfectly agree with you.

I just don't think a few games are enough to warrant buying a console, the entire reason I don't have a Wii is the lack of games that I like for it, there's about 10 or so.

And there's also the fact that the latest computers are more powerful than the three consoles combined. I get the feeling that if this topic had been PS3, 360, Wii or PC, then the PC would wipe the floor with everything...

Well, duh.

[Drathmoore]

Unless of course there's particular games for a system (i.e. Zelda, Mario for Wii). But in general, I perfectly agree with you.

I just don't think a few games are enough to warrant buying a console, the entire reason I don't have a Wii is the lack of games that I like for it, there's about 10 or so.

All I have to say is Halo 3.

[the_happy_taco]

all i have to say is they all have something good

wii-for little kids (not us)

xbox-featured games (halo, gta, *l4d* <---amazing)

ps3- beter detail, internet avalabitiliy, and larger community


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...and then theres me whos filty rich and has all 3 ^^

[Luminaflare]

Unless of course there's particular games for a system (i.e. Zelda, Mario for Wii). But in general, I perfectly agree with you.

I just don't think a few games are enough to warrant buying a console, the entire reason I don't have a Wii is the lack of games that I like for it, there's about 10 or so.

All I have to say is Halo 3.

...and? I never even bought Halo 3, I waited 3 years after 360 launch to buy the console. I have -never- bought a game console just for a few games that came out on it. I got my PS3 out of fanboyism though (I stopped being a sony fanboy a while back though).

all i have to say is they all have something good

wii-for little kids (not us)

xbox-featured games (halo, gta, *l4d* <---amazing)

ps3- beter detail, internet avalabitiliy, and larger community

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...and then theres me whos filty rich and has all 3 ^^

1) I'd like to see little kids play mad world or dead space extraction.

2) L4D is so much better on PC (Mostly because there is much less five year olds screaming at you over voice and you can set the graphics higher)

3) The PS3 currently for the most part has no better detail than the 360, hell the graphics card it has is worse, what it does have is 8 processors that no one has any idea what to do with. If by internet availability you mean actually browsing the net the Wii can do this too. Also just to finish this off the 360 has a much larger community.

[smartalco]

Thoughts on things:

Halo 3 really isn't that great, but I still play it quite a bit because I have friends who do, and we mostly just screw around (apparently I'm actually decent though, as I could lose the next 90 matches I play and still have a 50 win percentage)

L4D is roughly 18x better on PC, it would only be 14x, but several of us metanet guys have the PC version

yes, the PS3 and 360 have nearly identical graphics capabilities, despite Sony saying the PS3 is more powerful (which is true, but only in raw processing power, of which I can't think of a game that has actually made use of it)

LittleBigPlanet is the only PS3 exclusive I find worth playing, and by 'worth playing' I mean 'this game is so ridiculously fun, they should bundle this with every console and sales will double'

If you need a library of at least 10 games you like to find a console worthwhile, you get bored of games waaay too quick, I have 5 for my 360 (AC6, RB2, NFS:Carbon (which is crap btw, only spent $10 on it though), CoD4 (which I don't play that much really, also got it for $10), and Lego Indiana Jones/Kong Fu Panda (the bundled games)) (No I don't own Halo 3, but there are a dozen copies floating around my dorm floor, so I still end up playing a lot)

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[the_happy_taco]

lol

i just put random stuff cuz i like the ps3, pc, and the 360 (got the wii when it first came out and all the M stuff i got for 360, havent played the wii since lol)

i like the pc and the 360 about the same, idk why, i just do

same with l4d, i guess i like playing on my projector screen rather than on a computer screen (we have a theater room with a projector and full, built in, suround sound, and my dad doesnt want to buy a new computer, this ones 10 years old and im saving money for college to get a new one lololol)

so all around i dont think ones beter than the other, i like'm all =P

[Atilla]

Caring about ratings is for kids and parents. I don't even look at them when I'm buying - after all, I'm an adult, so what does it matter what the game is rated? I just want good games.

[the_happy_taco]

I have nothing to add to this discussion.

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[MattKestrel]

I have nothing to add to this discussion.

Haha, epic mod win.

I'd say ratings are pointless for me too, pretty much. Although, that said I haven't got a new 360 game since Christmas. Halo3, Burnout Paradise and GHWT are pretty much all I need.

[Luminaflare]

I've not bought a new xbox 360 game in ages either, last I got was a second hand copy of spider-man web of shadows, Albeit I did just get gears of war for free with my console repair. What I find is a good idea considering the short length of 90% of the SP games for the 360 is to sign up for an online rental service (Love Film or Swap Game in the UK) and rent most single player games. Don't rent stuff like Oblivion, GTA IV, Saints Row 2, Mercs 2 though since they tend to last much longer than an 8 hour campaign (For the non-observant all those games are free roam).

Next game I'm buying for my 360/PS3 (Not really decided on format yet) is Red Faction Guerilla. PS3: LBP.

[Exüberance]

I have an Xbox360 and a Wii, and have no intention of every getting a PS3.

Of course, I rarely ever play the Xbox or Wii, heh. Well, OK, I play Xbox360 a lot at friends' houses, and sometimes the Wii.

however the Wii is easily the best when you compare the game system to it's previous version. (that is to say the Wii is better compared to the indestructable box of win Gamecube than the Xbox360 is compared to the Xbox then the PS3 is compared to the PS2.) Thus if you take the derivative of current game system awesomeness with respect to change in game system, the Wii is the clear winner in my oppinion.

But I play the Xbox360 more than the Wii, so there you go.

[PsychoSnail]

I would choose the Xbox 360, because it has the most games I actually want to play (besides PC). To me, the only two reasons to get a PS3 are LittleBigPlanet and the fact that you're also getting a Blu-ray player.

[Twistkill]

I don't know, the PS3 is looking better every day. It had a rough start with sales and some people still find it overpriced, but honestly, for what you're getting, it has more vitality and is cheaper in the long run than the 360. Besides the hard drive and the Blu-ray player, it has backwards compatibility with the PS2 (good news for me as a PS2 owner), the controllers have built-in rechargeable batteries instead of buying separate ones, it has Bluetooth capability, and a free online service. These features make the PS3 look like a quality investment.

Uncharted (and the upcoming sequel), Killzone 2, Resistance 2, and MGS 4 are all good exclusives for the PS3. Plus, a lot of the other hot games are on both 360 and PS3: GTA 4, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, and F.E.A.R. 2 are all multi-platform. Plus, there are more exclusives on the way: God of War 3, Tekken 6, and Gran Turismo 5. I'm really considering getting a PS3 in a few months.

However, Gears of War 2 is one of the few reasons why I want a 360. Oh yeah, and Ace Combat 6. Curse you, Microsoft.