Vegetarian/Vegan. Ethics and other discussion.

[Amadeus]

Hear, hear.

Although, that shouldn't stop us from trying to act civilized once in a while.

Which is what I believe the your argument was about in the first place. Amadeus wrote that we are civilized and should act like it, whereas Wachtwoord claims that we aren't civilized and (I'm presuming he thinks this next part) should try to act civilized anyways. Whew, get on track.

Why are we arguing about human habits when it comes to racism or violence? That is not the topic of this thread...if you want to argue those points, you're probably better off making a completely new topic.

My stance on the topic, as previously stated: I will eat some red meat, especially if it's served to me (out of politeness). I try to stick to fish if I'm going to eat meat, which is rarely. I mostly do this because there is no definite way to tell if an animal is truly "suffering" (psychologically...the physical is pretty obvious); thus I try to err on the side of caution. Who knows, if cattle or sheep take over one day, maybe I'll live through it.

I know I'm not a moderator or admin, but I still prefer to have threads stay on topic. Sure, I'm guilty of sidetracking, but if I see a splinter in your eye, I might as well take it out, even if I've got a frickin' tree in my own.

So you're going to kill out of politeness? It sounds like a lame excuse for personal indulgence.

[SlappyMcGee]

Hear, hear.

Although, that shouldn't stop us from trying to act civilized once in a while.

Which is what I believe the your argument was about in the first place. Amadeus wrote that we are civilized and should act like it, whereas Wachtwoord claims that we aren't civilized and (I'm presuming he thinks this next part) should try to act civilized anyways. Whew, get on track.

Why are we arguing about human habits when it comes to racism or violence? That is not the topic of this thread...if you want to argue those points, you're probably better off making a completely new topic.

My stance on the topic, as previously stated: I will eat some red meat, especially if it's served to me (out of politeness). I try to stick to fish if I'm going to eat meat, which is rarely. I mostly do this because there is no definite way to tell if an animal is truly "suffering" (psychologically...the physical is pretty obvious); thus I try to err on the side of caution. Who knows, if cattle or sheep take over one day, maybe I'll live through it.

I know I'm not a moderator or admin, but I still prefer to have threads stay on topic. Sure, I'm guilty of sidetracking, but if I see a splinter in your eye, I might as well take it out, even if I've got a frickin' tree in my own.

I *like* you.

My favorite member since Tanner.

[Mute Monk]

Hear, hear.

Although, that shouldn't stop us from trying to act civilized once in a while.

Which is what I believe the your argument was about in the first place. Amadeus wrote that we are civilized and should act like it, whereas Wachtwoord claims that we aren't civilized and (I'm presuming he thinks this next part) should try to act civilized anyways. Whew, get on track.

Why are we arguing about human habits when it comes to racism or violence? That is not the topic of this thread...if you want to argue those points, you're probably better off making a completely new topic.

My stance on the topic, as previously stated: I will eat some red meat, especially if it's served to me (out of politeness). I try to stick to fish if I'm going to eat meat, which is rarely. I mostly do this because there is no definite way to tell if an animal is truly "suffering" (psychologically...the physical is pretty obvious); thus I try to err on the side of caution. Who knows, if cattle or sheep take over one day, maybe I'll live through it.

I know I'm not a moderator or admin, but I still prefer to have threads stay on topic. Sure, I'm guilty of sidetracking, but if I see a splinter in your eye, I might as well take it out, even if I've got a frickin' tree in my own.

So you're going to kill out of politeness? It sounds like a lame excuse for personal indulgence.

Uhhhhh....no. I figure, if the meat was already cooked for a meal that included others, I will also partake so as not to offend the chef/cook...and also because meat often forms the main part of the meal and I don't want to go hungry. If I have the choice (i.e. if I'm in the university's dining hall or if I'm ordering from a restaurant for myself), I will steer clear of meat and meat products.

Example: at Thanksgiving dinner about a week ago, my aunt was hosting roughly 10 of us. She had already thawed and cooked a large turkey, and so I participated in the consumption of said turkey because a) it was going to be cooked/eaten anyways, so I might as well indulge, and b) she holds her cooking in high regard, and worries that anything not eaten tasted bad.

@ SlappyMcGee and Wachtwoord: Thanks :)