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Postby fawk » 2009.10.17 (08:07)

DarkN wrote:Hmm, I could see that. So the pic's a red herring... or something else is.
I think the 'eight shadow' clue was the red herring. Very clever, Mr. E.
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Postby DarkN » 2009.10.17 (13:27)

bufar wrote:Speaking of Red Herrings, I have another lead that's probably irrelevant.
The Wikipedia page for Red Herring was updated since the start of this puzzle. One edit adds a link to another article, Ten Little Indians, that is entirely unrelated. The IP address that makes this edit has only made this one edit. Maybe there are some clues buried in these pages.
The second poem on the page mentions the term "red herring" once - but out of context. Could be cleverly hiding a clue, a non-clue, or it could be a coincidence.
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Postby otters~1 » 2009.10.20 (22:17)

Just pointing out that the plot of Agatha Christie's "Ten Little Indians" hinges on the phrase 'red herring.' If you know the book, that link might not seem like such a coincidence.
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Postby DarkN » 2009.10.20 (23:36)

flagmyidol wrote:Just pointing out that the plot of Agatha Christie's "Ten Little Indians" hinges on the phrase 'red herring.' If you know the book, that link might not seem like such a coincidence.
Actually what I was referring too - probably should have been more specific. >.>
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Postby Pikman » 2009.10.21 (22:45)

I have read Ten Little Indians. If there's anything that matters about it, the "red herring" death corresponded in order to when Dr. Armstrong was found, but the true "red herring" was Wargrave, who had a fake death.

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Postby DarkN » 2009.10.21 (22:56)

Pikman wrote:I have read Ten Little Indians. If there's anything that matters about it, the "red herring" death corresponded in order to when Dr. Armstrong was found, but the true "red herring" was Wargrave, who had a fake death.
So, most likely, coincidence.
So we're still basically back to square one.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.22 (01:09)

I hate to sound overbearingly condescending and elitist, but half of you seem to adopt this wacky problem-solving strategy where you latch onto a tangent, interpret it in a way that couldn't possibly be relevant, speculate about completely arbitrary references he might be making, give up, and finally declare that we've officially made zero progress as though any of the major progress in solving this thing has hinged on the useless dead-end alley you've explored.

tl;dr: I hate children.
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Postby bufar » 2009.10.22 (01:58)

Tsukatu wrote:I hate to sound overbearingly condescending and elitist, but half of you seem to adopt this wacky problem-solving strategy where you latch onto a tangent, interpret it in a way that couldn't possibly be relevant, speculate about completely arbitrary references he might be making, give up, and finally declare that we've officially made zero progress as though any of the major progress in solving this thing has hinged on the useless dead-end alley you've explored.

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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.22 (18:46)

So his sig now says that all we need is the cipher. I think this is a reference not to the missing piece we've been looking for that is the cipher for the JavaScrypt thing, but a reference to the Cipher character in The Matrix. Clearly he's saying that he has a co-conspirator somewhere in this thread who is betraying us (probably by feeding us misleading information), and that we need to determine who that is and press him for the answer.
Let's devote all of our attention to this in lieu of working on any other clues he's given us. Let the witch hunt begin!
[spoiler="you know i always joked that it would be scary as hell to run into DMX in a dark ally, but secretly when i say 'DMX' i really mean 'Tsukatu'." -kai]"... and when i say 'scary as hell' i really mean 'tight pink shirt'." -kai[/spoiler][/i]
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Postby fawk » 2009.10.22 (18:55)

Tsukatu wrote:So his sig now says that all we need is the cipher. I think this is a reference not to the missing piece we've been looking for that is the cipher for the JavaScrypt thing, but a reference to the Cipher character in The Matrix. Clearly he's saying that he has a co-conspirator somewhere in this thread who is betraying us (probably by feeding us misleading information), and that we need to determine who that is and press him for the answer.
Let's devote all of our attention to this in lieu of working on any other clues he's given us. Let the witch hunt begin!
I know you're being sarcastic and all, but the sig has been there for a while.

On another note, back when you thought you knew who it was by privileged information, did that come to anything?
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.22 (20:38)

guy_zap wrote:On another note, back when you thought you knew who it was by privileged information, did that come to anything?
Yeah, I had a large amount of suspicion that it was one of a handful of people. EnigmA told me I was wrong, though.
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Postby beethoveN » 2009.10.23 (03:24)

And why do you believe him?
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.23 (03:38)

He seems a trustworthy feller.
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Postby fawk » 2009.10.23 (07:09)

Why did you think it was them? And actually, who were they? If they were wrong I suppose it can only narrow down the list.
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Postby beethoveN » 2009.10.23 (16:02)

(to tsukatu) he's so trustworthy, you can tell because of how he hides behind a mask.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.23 (17:25)

guy_zap wrote:Why did you think it was them? And actually, who were they? If they were wrong I suppose it can only narrow down the list.
Of the people on the list, Luminaflare was the one I thought was most likely. Then there was another, and then there was you.
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Postby fawk » 2009.10.26 (07:10)

*gasps dramatically*

Why?
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.26 (21:31)

guy_zap wrote:*gasps dramatically*

Why?
Those people I suspected posted from a very narrow range of IP's from a specific ISP. I thought it was LF because I knew he was pretty computer-savvy, and didn't guess you because I hardly know a thing about you.
But your involvement in this thread certainly supports my current suspicion that it's you.

Again, I also didn't want to say anything about this because it wasn't solving the puzzle in the way EnigmA intended it to be solved. But since you're asking...
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Postby Aldaric » 2009.10.26 (22:38)

The games up. It is obviously Suki.

Edit: I have some pretty good reasons, too. I can post them if you think this is just spam.

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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2009.10.27 (00:08)

Aldaric wrote:The games up. It is obviously Suki.

Edit: I have some pretty good reasons, too. I can post them if you think this is just spam.
Go for it.
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Postby DarkN » 2009.10.27 (00:28)

Aldaric wrote:The games up. It is obviously Suki.

Edit: I have some pretty good reasons, too. I can post them if you think this is just spam.
I think I may see your point.
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Postby Aldaric » 2009.10.27 (04:30)

Tsukatu wrote:I'll show you whois...

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% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
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% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: This output has been filtered.
%       To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '89.241.0.0 - 89.243.255.255'

inetnum:        89.241.0.0 - 89.243.255.255
netname:        OPAL-DSL
descr:          Opal Telecom DSL
country:        GB
admin-c:        PM58-RIPE
admin-c:        GD1052-RIPE
tech-c:         PM58-RIPE
tech-c:         GD1052-RIPE
status:         ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:       Phill Magill
address:      Opal Telecommunications Plc
address:      Northbank Industrial Estate
address:      Irlam
address:      Manchester
address:      M44 5BL
address:      United Kingdom
phone:        +44 161 222-2000
fax-no:       +44 161 222-2008
e-mail:       [email protected]
nic-hdl:      PM58-RIPE
mnt-by:       OPAL-MNT
source:       RIPE # Filtered

person:         Gavin Ditchfield
address:        Opal Telecommunications Plc
address:        Northbank Industrial Estate
address:        Irlam
address:        Manchester
address:        M44 5BL
address:        United Kingdom
phone:          +44 161 222-2000
fax-no:         +44 161 222-2008
e-mail:         [email protected]
nic-hdl:        GD1052-RIPE
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '89.240.0.0/14AS13285'

route:          89.240.0.0/14
descr:          Opal-Net Autonomous System
origin:         AS13285
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '89.242.0.0/15AS13285'

route:          89.242.0.0/15
descr:          Opal-Net Autonomous System
origin:         AS13285
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
source:         RIPE # Filtered
No other user or post uses that same IP.

Otherwise,
His YouTube video contains the text "whoistheenigmaiamtheenigma" and links to some Java encryption page.
I don't have sound on this machine, so I didn't hear any sound that might've played with the video.

Text from his only map ("11th") is from Luke 11:39, text specifically from the New International Version.
Text in map data: http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae18 ... tember.png
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There is no slightly off-color text in the image. The background color is #CCCCCC, and the text color is #000000.
Hex dump for the file is nothing out of the ordinary for a PNG.
(For the record, these forums were created in / the Metanet Exodus happened in September 2008.)

Googling "A102938" gives, most notably, a number sequence, someone having issues with his PS3, "amber[looserface] !!", and this Asian fellow.

Without the "A", we have a spam page for "online school poker debt consolidation" and some loser who thinks he's a vampire.

Anyway, I'm thinking one of these keywords given is the decryption key (for that "JavaScypt" page) for some cypher I haven't found yet.
The encrypted text will either be groups of five capital letters beginning with "ZZZZZ", a series of valid hexadecimal characters (0-9, a-f) between "?HX?" and "?H", or a series of any sort of characters between "?b64" and "?64b".


Other crap:
If 102938 is actually 0x102938, it doesn't become anything meaningful when changed to decimal or octal. Neither does 0x0A102938 or 0xEA102938.
However, 102938 in hex is 0x1921a, which might be valuable information.
There are soooo many things wrong with this post. (Even if Suki isn't it, this post contains a solid, real lead) When I first read this, I was like, "Damn Suki is a beast. He just practically solved this shit, and wow it didn't even take him that long. How the hell did he figure out all this crap so fast?" So either your really smart or you had in on this/you are EnigmaA. If you are not EnigmaA, you probably wouldn't have seen this topic right away. Meaning that you did indeed find out all this information and write a long post about it in less than an hour. Probably. The quickness isn't the only issue with this. You seem to be giving a thorough report, with things like ,
"There is no slightly off-color text in the image. The background color is #CCCCCC, and the text color is #000000."
but why are there errors in it? Were you trying to give us hints or what? Were you trying to make it super easy?

Googling "A102938" gives, most notably, a number sequence, someone having issues with his PS3, "amber[looserface] !!", and this Asian fellow.

Without the "A", we have a spam page for "online school poker debt consolidation" and some loser who thinks he's a vampire.

That vampire that is a looser is not a he it is a she. (Just for fun. This is a stretch even for me, but if you click on her friends there is a guy named Suko. Suko Suki??? lol)

Also, why did nobody look at these links besides me? I mean that "amber[looserface] !!" girl has a photobucket URL and all those numbers that EnigmaA was hinting at. 28/3/2008 is the date she joined or whatever. 28 and 2008 Holy crap people are you blind!? If you were really so thorough you would have seen all these clues Suki. I saw it instantly when I clicked on the link.
So why Suki, did you say dumb things like, "Don't rightly know what he means by "BUCKET" When it was so obvious? Clearly you can't play dumb and smart at the same time with me. I'm disappointed in you Suki. You guys should look at the other links, too. They aren't as helpful, but still are suspicious. You made a lot of comments on this topic, that were encouraging people to look the wrong way. (Just look through the topic guys) I thought it was interesting though, when you said ,"THEENIGMAHASFAILEDTOHOLDOURATTENTION" You spoke exactly like him, and it wasn't true at all. Or maybe it was true and you said that to boost the topic higher on the page so more people would see it. Of course, a lot of dumb ideas transpired, and you Suki started getting annoyed. You made it so obvious, and people were barking up the wrong trees in a forest of wrong trees. So you posted this (This i can quote correctly because it was posted later than the others)
Tsukatu wrote:I hate to sound overbearingly condescending and elitist, but half of you seem to adopt this wacky problem-solving strategy where you latch onto a tangent, interpret it in a way that couldn't possibly be relevant, speculate about completely arbitrary references he might be making, give up, and finally declare that we've officially made zero progress as though any of the major progress in solving this thing has hinged on the useless dead-end alley you've explored.

tl;dr: I hate children.
Anyways, even after the hint of the red hearing, saying that you guys fucked up, you just used the red hearing to fuck up more. Suki got angry, and posted this, which stated a bit more blatantly that you guys were doing this all wrong.
Tsukatu wrote:So his sig now says that all we need is the cipher. I think this is a reference not to the missing piece we've been looking for that is the cipher for the JavaScrypt thing, but a reference to the Cipher character in The Matrix. Clearly he's saying that he has a co-conspirator somewhere in this thread who is betraying us (probably by feeding us misleading information), and that we need to determine who that is and press him for the answer.
Let's devote all of our attention to this in lieu of working on any other clues he's given us. Let the witch hunt begin!
When you have a secret it is fun to hint at it. This is what Tsukatu has been doing the whole time. He started the witch hunt for the person that was misleading everybody. A witch hunt though is usually seen as a crazy idea, and was not taken with much seriousness. Also, starting the witch hunt would make you less likely the witch.
Tsukatu wrote:He seems a trustworthy feller.
If you trust yourself.
Tsukatu wrote:
guy_zap wrote:Why did you think it was them? And actually, who were they? If they were wrong I suppose it can only narrow down the list.
Of the people on the list, Luminaflare was the one I thought was most likely. Then there was another, and then there was you.
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guy_zap wrote:*gasps dramatically*

Why?
Those people I suspected posted from a very narrow range of IP's from a specific ISP. I thought it was LF because I knew he was pretty computer-savvy, and didn't guess you because I hardly know a thing about you.
But your involvement in this thread certainly supports my current suspicion that it's you.

Again, I also didn't want to say anything about this because it wasn't solving the puzzle in the way EnigmA intended it to be solved. But since you're asking...
You accused based on the fact that he commented a lot on this topic. Who else did that? YOU! Then you said thats not the way EnigmaA wanted it to be figured out, but it was a good reason to believe such a thing. All in all, it is very clear Tsukatu = EnigmaA

also click on the Asian guy link. There is a crown much like lord_days'. Lol (That is a joke though.)
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Postby Spawn of Yanni » 2009.10.27 (04:38)

*psst. It's not Tsukatu.*

Not me either before you go off on fifteen tangents
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Postby Aldaric » 2009.10.27 (04:40)

Whatever, even if it isn't Suki, there is more than enough reason to believe it is him, and I dont think I'm completely crazy by having believed so.
This also could be something. It is the only other map with an enigma tag, and it has the number 28 in it. What do you think? http://www.nmaps.net/155467
Edit: How do you know btw?

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Postby Aldaric » 2009.10.27 (11:30)

EnigmA wrote:THEENIGMAMESSEDITUPABIT
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I don't think Bufar has anything to do with this. EnigmA probably is just sending him a message. It wouldn't lead to much if we chased after Bufar.


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