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Postby kai » 2010.02.08 (14:23)

oh slaps, you tickle me something awful ;P

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Postby blue_tetris » 2010.02.08 (16:02)

All of my relationships, all of my misdeeds, drugs and alcohol, interests and diversions, advice and epiphanies, you were there for them all, and that was me. And none of it was intended to fuck you over; but I can see where it could.

I did lie to you for a long time about some really important things, and for that I am truly sorry. You guys have every reason to be pissed at me. So I'm glad you are taking it as well as you are. You guys are more supportive of me than I ever--with my massive amounts of assholishness--deserved. I thank you all.



I am kinda intrigued that UZ believed Borealis's tales were more legitimate than mine. I hardly said anything that pushed the envelope too far. Borealis said he was a renowned musician, worked for a game design company, and showed various non-equivocal images of himself over the years. This guy's act was better than mine? I doubt it. I won't say that I knew he was lying to us--I didn't. I'm just saying that his lies were a bit more outlandish than mine.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.02.08 (18:41)

blue_tetris wrote:All of my relationships, all of my misdeeds, drugs and alcohol, interests and diversions, advice and epiphanies, you were there for them all, and that was me. And none of it was intended to fuck you over; but I can see where it could.

I did lie to you for a long time about some really important things, and for that I am truly sorry. You guys have every reason to be pissed at me. So I'm glad you are taking it as well as you are. You guys are more supportive of me than I ever--with my massive amounts of assholishness--deserved. I thank you all.



I am kinda intrigued that UZ believed Borealis's tales were more legitimate than mine. I hardly said anything that pushed the envelope too far. Borealis said he was a renowned musician, worked for a game design company, and showed various non-equivocal images of himself over the years. This guy's act was better than mine? I doubt it. I won't say that I knew he was lying to us--I didn't. I'm just saying that his lies were a bit more outlandish than mine.
Yeah, Dave never said he hung out with Gary Gygax.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2010.02.08 (23:39)

SlappyMcGee wrote:Yeah, Dave never said he hung out with Gary Gygax.
Ooh, I met his son!
[spoiler="you know i always joked that it would be scary as hell to run into DMX in a dark ally, but secretly when i say 'DMX' i really mean 'Tsukatu'." -kai]"... and when i say 'scary as hell' i really mean 'tight pink shirt'." -kai[/spoiler][/i]
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Postby Rhekatou » 2010.02.09 (00:00)

Tsukatu wrote:
SlappyMcGee wrote:Yeah, Dave never said he hung out with Gary Gygax.
Ooh, I met his son!
Ooh, really? So did I!
I met his daughters too!
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Postby kai » 2010.02.09 (07:42)

Rhekatou wrote:
Tsukatu wrote:
SlappyMcGee wrote:Yeah, Dave never said he hung out with Gary Gygax.
Ooh, I met his son!
Ooh, really? So did I!
I met his daughters too!
Yeah, i got a sample of his daughter's "singing" voice last night

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Postby Universezero » 2010.02.09 (11:09)

Well, assuming that I believed both of your "stories" equally, I'm saying that you seemed more like the kind of person who would do something like that purely for entertainment, y'know?
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Postby blue_tetris » 2010.02.10 (03:10)

I did hang out with Scott Kurtz from PvP at the Dallas Webcomics Expo. And I did get to chat with Dr. Garfield over at Quadradius.
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Postby Kablizzy » 2010.02.10 (03:17)

blue_tetris wrote:I did hang out with Scott Kurtz from PvP at the Dallas Webcomics Expo. And I did get to chat with Dr. Garfield over at Quadradius.
On that note, I do have Garfield's old phone number, and have hobnobbed with Zvi Mowshowitz, Mark Rosewater, Bob Maher, and Jon Finkel.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2010.02.10 (05:03)

TMP MotI wrote:On that note, I do have Garfield's old phone number, and have hobnobbed with Zvi Mowshowitz, Mark Rosewater, Bob Maher, and Jon Finkel.
You're making all of those people up.
[spoiler="you know i always joked that it would be scary as hell to run into DMX in a dark ally, but secretly when i say 'DMX' i really mean 'Tsukatu'." -kai]"... and when i say 'scary as hell' i really mean 'tight pink shirt'." -kai[/spoiler][/i]
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Postby Kablizzy » 2010.02.10 (06:34)

Tsukatu wrote:
TMP MotI wrote:On that note, I do have Garfield's old phone number, and have hobnobbed with Zvi Mowshowitz, Mark Rosewater, Bob Maher, and Jon Finkel.
You're making all of those people up.
Of course I am! It's the Internets!
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Postby blackson » 2010.02.10 (06:36)

I understand why Borealis did it, and I find it sad he wasn't proud enough to present himself as himself to the internet.

Although, I don't understand why b_t did. Does it give you some sense of satisfaction that you've successfully "tricked" us into thinking you're someone who you are not? This is the easiest medium to do it; everyone believes what you say because, well, there's not much reason not to. It's not that difficult to dissuade someone into believing something on the internet, and if you take some pride in doing so, your standard for satisfaction is depressingly low. This is fucking kid shit man. A 15 year old kid is telling you to grow up.

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Postby kai » 2010.02.10 (13:03)

Blackson wrote:I understand why Borealis did it, and I find it sad he wasn't proud enough to present himself as himself to the internet.
cause everyone is perfectly honest on the internet about who they are right? no 40 year old virgins posing as 16 year old smoking hot school girls?
Blackson wrote: Although, I don't understand why b_t did. Does it give you some sense of satisfaction that you've successfully "tricked" us into thinking you're someone who you are not? This is the easiest medium to do it; everyone believes what you say because, well, there's not much reason not to. It's not that difficult to dissuade someone into believing something on the internet, and if you take some pride in doing so, your standard for satisfaction is depressingly low. This is fucking kid shit man. A 15 year old kid is telling you to grow up.
if you really mean that blackson, you need to grow up.

after talking with dave i realize that nothing i can say can measure the pure stupidity and petty nature of this sort of reaction (im not calling you stupid... not personally anyways). its the definition of making mountains out of mole hills. here i was thinking that his name isnt even dave or he's really 10 years younger/older then he previously claimed, but come to learn that all the fabrications were based on / branched off of fact. its not like he claimed to be some sort of successful game designer / music writer loved and known by all >_>. im actually relieved, everyone made it seem so much worse.

i understand why dave did what he did, and why he came clean... and i have to give credit where credit is due: 5 years man? wow, that takes skill XD.

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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.02.10 (14:39)

I'm somewhat neutral between the last two reactions. I'm not angry at Dave, because that mountain out of molehill thing happened to his lies after he hung around for five years. Nor do I think the lies were particularly deft in their construct. He was consistent, sure, but as Blackson said, it's not difficult to lie to people about something that they have no reason to disbelieve. Go tell your parents that you had to do lines at school because you didn't do their homework, and they'll likely trust you.
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Postby Kablizzy » 2010.02.11 (00:52)

kai wrote: or he's really 10 years younger/older then he previously claimed
Yeah, about that...
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Postby Mute Monk » 2010.02.11 (01:02)

SlappyMcGee wrote:Go tell your parents that you had to do lines at school because you didn't do their homework, and they'll likely trust you.
Yeah, my T.A. hates it when I don't do my parents' homework.
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Postby blue_tetris » 2010.02.11 (11:15)

I'm really 47 years old.

Like, honestly, I've come to consider mysefl timeless.

:O

XD

I'm pretty drunk. But you guys are great. You always knew real-Dave.



EDIT: Oh, also, Blackson clearly has read none of my posts. I explain fully why I did what I did. Five years ago, it seemed like a more patent idea. Kid shit? I dunno. It entertained. And if you've read SotX, The Real N comic, played Space Pimp, played every other game I've invented, heard of my D&D tales.... you'd know that I'm all about the entertainments. At this point, anyone who posts any jilted remark on the whole ordeal simply doesn't have reading comprehension skills. I didn't pull one over on you guys for lulz. Or even because I thought myself more capable than the average Joe on the matter (though I clearly am). I did it because I didn't want to lose the credibility I established when the gates opened:

Five years, I developed a persona for people like Blizz and LV. People that came to internalize a trust for me. Five years. A fair 20-25% of my life. I did it out of fear. Not to screw you over. I was weak and afraid. And (Blackson, read this) I don't think I'm a better person for deceiving you. I fucked up. Hard-gottdamn-core. I tried to leave eight times--way back in the days of TheDailyLlama, even. I tried to abandon this taudry endeavor. And I could have done it, even without leaving. I could have fessed up and been a man. But I didn't.

I'm nothing but apologetic for that. Maybe it gives you solace to present me as a person that is uncaring or unremorseful when you attack me here. But I'm quite the opposite. And with each person I told the news to, I was (where my constantly-giddy and jovial personality allowed) remorseful for the shit I put people through.

I'm sorry. In your mind's eye, present me in whatever villainous manner makes me easiest to dismiss. I apologize, and that's all I can do here.

I hope you were at least amused.
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Postby blue_tetris » 2010.02.11 (11:35)

Wait. What if this is some Dave/Slaps forum prank to create situational irony and discern who Dave's true friends were?

XD

No, but seriously. Sorry.
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Postby Tanner » 2010.02.11 (13:15)

It's 6:30am and blue_tetris is tanked. At least the raging alcoholism wasn't a lie.
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Postby SlappyMcGee » 2010.02.11 (14:28)

blue_tetris wrote:Wait. What if this is some Dave/Slaps forum prank to create situational irony and discern who Dave's true friends were?

XD

No, but seriously. Sorry.

I'm not saying that the Borealis thing wasn't a giant scam perpetrated by the three of us. I am not.
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Postby capt_weasle » 2010.02.11 (19:26)

How did I miss this thread? To be perfectly honest I don't have much to say. It'll be my fourth year here come the end of this month, and even though I never really spent a lot of time getting to know the other people here, this community has had a certain impact in my life. For me, this community has mostly been a venue to hang out and have fun. I always had a feeling the blue_tetris Dave wasn't a complete truth, though I never talked to Borealis so I would never have known. But really, that doesn't matter to me a great deal. This forum has always been kind of cryptic in the sense that you never really knew what was going on. From the "hacker" on the forum (and countless puzzles since), to the Pony Parade, to the Balls shenanigans, to the blue_tetris takeover, and to the forums supposedly being hacked again and erased (I was shortly on IRC for that one). Perhaps because I was never really heavily involved in the forum, but the fact that the forum was almost a game completely on its own was what was fun, to some extent. Unfortunately this means that if this whole situation was really just a ruse-in-a-ruse it wouldn't come as a huge surprise. But on a more serious note, this forum was one of the few things in life that actually challenged my beliefs. I have always tried to keep up with the goings-on in the Debate forum, and I have to say that is part of the reason I'm a completely different person than I was four years ago. While I can't say I completely agree with them, people like Suki and Demonz and the others who frequent the debate forum pulled me out of my belief system, where I just kind of believed things to be true without actually challenging those perspectives. I think this has been a good benefit from my time spent here.
blue_tetris wrote:Wait. What if this is some Dave/Slaps forum prank to create situational irony and discern who Dave's true friends were?
If that's true, it will only confirm my suspicion that this whole forum is a lie and that Tsukatu is secretly Rick Warren.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2010.02.11 (23:25)

capt_weasle wrote:While I can't say I completely agree with them, people like Suki and Demonz and the others who frequent the debate forum pulled me out of my belief system, where I just kind of believed things to be true without actually challenging those perspectives. I think this has been a good benefit from my time spent here.
I made a difference! I made a difference!
:D :D :D
[spoiler="you know i always joked that it would be scary as hell to run into DMX in a dark ally, but secretly when i say 'DMX' i really mean 'Tsukatu'." -kai]"... and when i say 'scary as hell' i really mean 'tight pink shirt'." -kai[/spoiler][/i]
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Postby otters~1 » 2010.02.12 (02:04)

I agree, cap'n, about the Debate Forum bit. To be honest I'd rather talk about the "issues" on this website than damn near anywhere else, because you guys are all, sadly, smarter than anyone I know irl. I find myself occasionally comparing people at my high school by accident to people on Metanet, and you guys always come out on top in terms of intelligence.

So, yeah, reaffirming that it's good to be here.
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Postby blue_tetris » 2010.02.12 (04:59)

Tsukatu wrote:
capt_weasle wrote:While I can't say I completely agree with them, people like Suki and Demonz and the others who frequent the debate forum pulled me out of my belief system, where I just kind of believed things to be true without actually challenging those perspectives. I think this has been a good benefit from my time spent here.
I made a difference! I made a difference!
:D :D :D
Though he sounds ironic, he actually got an liquid-silver-colored erection when this news arrived.
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Postby t̷s͢uk̕a͡t͜ư » 2010.02.12 (06:03)

blue_tetris wrote:
Tsukatu wrote:
capt_weasle wrote:While I can't say I completely agree with them, people like Suki and Demonz and the others who frequent the debate forum pulled me out of my belief system, where I just kind of believed things to be true without actually challenging those perspectives. I think this has been a good benefit from my time spent here.
I made a difference! I made a difference!
:D :D :D
Though he sounds ironic, he actually got an liquid-silver-colored erection when this news arrived.
Dare I ask why it'd have been "liquid-silver-colored?"

EDIT: Look at that sentence. Why the hell is it correct to put punctuation inside quotation marks? That doesn't make a lick of sense. English is seriously messed up.
[spoiler="you know i always joked that it would be scary as hell to run into DMX in a dark ally, but secretly when i say 'DMX' i really mean 'Tsukatu'." -kai]"... and when i say 'scary as hell' i really mean 'tight pink shirt'." -kai[/spoiler][/i]
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