CoD: Black Ops

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.05.14 (00:41)

Uh-oh! Look who's back!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0n0QKGKQCc
Looks like it might be set in the Nam this time, hope it's better than MW2.

Postby **otters~1** » 2010.05.14 (02:56)

I disliked this trailer. Boom, body exits stage left, tree on fire, dark room, another boom, five second stop even though it was fully buffered, fast camera action in what may or may not be the same dark room, another couple of bodies although I'm not positive they weren't horses or something because it was so fucking dark, boom.

Also we have a gaming forum.

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.05.14 (20:32)

here, see if this helps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292tCSCvFQY

Postby **kai** » 2010.05.15 (09:26)

let me save you the time and 60 bucks.... ITS GOING TO SUCK ASS. LOTS AND LOTS OF ASS. MATCHMAKING VIA PC.

ive lost all faith with IW. they can ALL (and when i say all, i mean the development team as a FUCKING WHOLE) go to hell.

you hear me IW? you go to HELL! you go to hell and you DIE!!!

..

.... but thats just me still pissed at the piece of crap pc version of modern warfare 2.

http://nmaps.net/user/UniverseZero · Postby **Universezero** » 2010.05.15 (12:27)

kai wrote:let me save you the time and 60 bucks.... ITS GOING TO SUCK ASS. LOTS AND LOTS OF ASS. MATCHMAKING VIA PC.

ive lost all faith with IW. they can ALL (and when i say all, i mean the development team as a FUCKING WHOLE) go to hell.

you hear me IW? you go to HELL! you go to hell and you DIE!!!

..

.... but thats just me still pissed at the piece of crap pc version of modern warfare 2.

Hah, it's funny, because Black Ops isn't made at all by Infinity Ward. It's made by Treyarch, the same company that made World at War. Basically, if you liked WaW, you'll like this. Because it isn't IW, I'm not too keen... I'm not going to jump on it like I did on MW2. Maybe I'll rent it first, or get the demo before I go out and spend my money (of which there is very little... I need a job).
Also, kai, you need a console. PC gaming is just awful; it's like buying a kitchen and saying "It's multi-purpose!" and then getting your dumbbells and weights and turning it into a gym.

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.05.15 (14:41)

Are you serious? PC gaming would be totally awesome with a good PC, for example with CoD:WaW you can create/download custom maps for nazi zombies, campaign, and multiplayer, and for Fallout 3 you can use the GECK and mod anything/ create anything you want. That would be so cool.

http://nmaps.net/user/chase16/ · Postby **Chase** » 2010.05.15 (16:21)

Universezero, you need a slap.

If you enjoy playing games at reduced resolution, lower framerates on years old hardware then sure.

Also Treyarch confirmed Dedicated servers.

http://nmaps.net/user/UniverseZero · Postby **Universezero** » 2010.05.15 (22:52)

Chase wrote:If you enjoy playing games at reduced resolution, lower framerates on years old hardware then sure.

I've never noticed any of these problems.

Postby **Luminaflare** » 2010.05.16 (12:42)

Universezero wrote:Also, kai, you need a console. PC gaming is just awful; it's like buying a kitchen and saying "It's multi-purpose!" and then getting your dumbbells and weights and turning it into a gym.

Universezero wrote:I've never noticed any of these problems.

Oh sorry, I couldn't here you over running a game at 2560 × 1600, ultra high settings and being able to pin point shoot any enemy from across the entire map with a pistol.

In case you missed the point, "HD" gaming a load of bullshit, PC has had resolutions above 1080p in mainstream (As in affordable) since about 2004, now a days it's possible to get monitors at 7680 × 4800 that's 16 times the resolution of 1080p. PC gaming has always had better graphics, consoles usually have their settings around about medium to high depending the game (Sims and the like don't need to process as much as shooters so they tend to be better graphics) where essentially every PC game that comes out now has at least very high and sometimes even higher. Now the controls, yes a game pad is better for movement control (Analogue stick has 360 degrees of movement while PC has WASD) a keyboard has more buttons so it can support more complex games (Mechwarrior anyone?) but beyond that a mouse is infinitely more accurate than a controller, hell game devs quite often mention having to rebalance a game to compensate for a mouse making the game easier. And if you still prefer a controller just plug the 360 controller in to your PC, the drivers are pre-installed to windows and almost every game that comes out now has native support for it, quite often even replacing the keyboard prompts with the controllers buttons.

Also cost, you can whine about a decent gaming PC costing £12598 or whatever but if you're spending that much you're an idiot. £600 I can make a gaming PC with the correct hardware to upgraded every few years so it can last a while, but what's this I hear you say? "My console still only costs £150" while true if you have a 360 but you're going to end up spending that on accessories, bigger hard drive (Yep £100 or so for a 120GB, I just spent £50 on a 1000GB (1TB) for my PC), headsets, controllers, wireless receiver etc. so say £250 minimum to really have a 360 running properly, so you've just spent all this money, you turn on the console. RED RING OF DEATH, now if you're under warranty you're fine but after the first repair the warranty is put at 3 months, any issues after that and you have to pay for the repair which is another £60 or you may just end up buying another console to replace it which is another £150.

Oh and you pay £40 RRP for your console games, I pay £30 RRP for my PC games, also thanks to stuff like steam I get them -much- cheaper (Just bought one for £5, got five for £7 last weekend, got about 60 or so for about £30 last Christmas).

Console gaming isn't cheaper, it's about on par with PC in costs if you actually buy smart. Oh and don't get me started on DLC as that definitely makes consoles more expensive.

http://nmaps.net/user/Twistkill · Postby **Twistkill** » 2010.05.17 (02:37)

I've enjoyed my experiences in console gaming for a while because I can't get a gaming PC. There's a good online component for the consoles (except for the Wii) that has given me many, many hours for the money I've spent on a game, such as Modern Warfare 2, Red Faction: Guerrilla, Killzone 2, and Uncharted 2.

Higher resolutions are great and all, and they sure make the games look better. Maybe you're right... most PC games have better textures and higher detail than the console versions. Thing is, some of us don't have the resources or expertise to build a PC ourselves. Then we have to upgrade it later. At least the PS3 was built with the future in mind. It finally got the powerhouse games it needed... 3 to 4 years after it came out! And it still hasn't reached its full potential.

I can look at all of the screenshots, reviews, and trailers I want, but I can't really say if they're fun or not unless I play it. It's kind of a gamble for every game you buy with the exception of trusted developers or series you enjoy.

There's also lots of games only for the PS3 that I couldn't play on the PC, such as... Modnation Racers, God of War 3, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Demon's Souls, inFamous, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Yakuza 3, Ratchet and Clank games... MGS 4... hmm. This list keeps going into some of the older games like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: DF, Resistance: FOM and Warhawk. It's also getting The Last Guardian later this year, and Killzone 3 and LBP 2 are confirmed for development, probably for 2011. I'm sure your resolution of 092450987 by 198724 would make it look fantastic, but none of these games are available for the PC and it's a shame to miss any of them because of how fun and unique they are.

PCs are great for shooters, MMOs, and RTSes and Steam is definitely a trump card. But I sure as hell haven't missed out on anything by getting a PS3.

Postby **kai** » 2010.05.18 (09:59)

Universezero wrote:
kai wrote:let me save you the time and 60 bucks.... ITS GOING TO SUCK ASS. LOTS AND LOTS OF ASS. MATCHMAKING VIA PC.

ive lost all faith with IW. they can ALL (and when i say all, i mean the development team as a FUCKING WHOLE) go to hell.

you hear me IW? you go to HELL! you go to hell and you DIE!!!

..

.... but thats just me still pissed at the piece of crap pc version of modern warfare 2.
Hah, it's funny, because Black Ops isn't made at all by Infinity Ward. It's made by Treyarch, the same company that made World at War. Basically, if you liked WaW, you'll like this. Because it isn't IW, I'm not too keen... I'm not going to jump on it like I did on MW2. Maybe I'll rent it first, or get the demo before I go out and spend my money (of which there is very little... I need a job).
Also, kai, you need a console. PC gaming is just awful; it's like buying a kitchen and saying "It's multi-purpose!" and then getting your dumbbells and weights and turning it into a gym.

i run a windows 7 os with an i7 920 running at 2.67ghz. i have 6 gigs of memory and a nividia geforce gtx 260 video card with 3 gigs of virtual memory and a 1tb hard drive.

in laymen terms, my load screens are NEVER more then 10-20 seconds, even for games like fallout 3, battlefield 2, or bad company 2, my graphics look ten times better then on the 360 or ps3 (and yes ive seen the difference first hand and im not the first one to say this, other peeps that have seen me play say this also.... and curse me out for it XD, not to mention i can mod games to look even BETTER then the best the game has to offer :P), im always one of the first peeps to load in game online (givin the circumstances are good, cant do anything if its the servers fault :/)... and then theres the mods, long list of extra options, tweaks, edits, and other things the 360 (or any console) lacks. and lets not forget the freeware games and shareware.

plus i agree to everything lf said.

oh and yeah, my rig actually counts as 3 consoles right now: ps2, snes, and n64. WHAT, WHAT!!! SAY SOM'N!!

BUT i do play 360 as well, but only for games that are exclusive to the 360. if i had it my way id make ALL games have pc versions. i mean i have a 360 controller for my pc so theres really no difference save for quality.

and WaW wasnt all that great... but it did have custom servers!! ...huh, ok, i think you just gave me some hope for this game!!! WOOT!! now for the real test, if they do a beta WITHOUT matchmaking

http://nmaps.net/user/rocket_thumped · Postby **rocket_thumped** » 2010.05.18 (17:57)

I might actually play this call of duty. I'm not a fan of modern first person shooters, and 'Nam isn't a war that is covered by first person shooters often.

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.05.20 (19:34)

Treyarch just released a new trailer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSfWHD8tZQY

Postby **kai** » 2010.05.23 (23:07)

whoa, whoa, whoa, what? this is nam?! this new one is based offa' nam?!! ok, i take back what i said, now im looking forward to this game :D

yeah nam isnt done too often and nobody has really got it right yet, but in the hands of cod theres more then a glimmer of hope. hopefully they will be able to cover the gritty, dark animalistic nature of one of the most controversial wars in US history.

also completely off topic, has anyone tried split/second? that new racing game from Disney? its pretty sick. i dont know if theres a demo on the 360 (i have it on pc), but its more then worth a look. still surprised Disney made it...

http://nmaps.net/user/smartalco · Postby **smartalco** » 2010.05.24 (05:27)

Twistkill wrote:Higher resolutions are great and all, and they sure make the games look better. Maybe you're right... most PC games have better textures and higher detail than the console versions. Thing is, some of us don't have the resources or expertise to build a PC ourselves. Then we have to upgrade it later. At least the PS3 was built with the future in mind. It finally got the powerhouse games it needed... 3 to 4 years after it came out! And it still hasn't reached its full potential.

1) The 'expertise' required to build a computer amounts to 'put tab A in slot B, repeat about 8 times' (also, there is that method of just straight up buying one)
2) You don't have to upgrade often, I built my computer for $1000 in 2008, I can still play BC2 on max graphics settings.
3) The PS3 wasn't built with the the consumer's future in mind, it was built with Sony's in mind. Specifically "Shit, we need to get Blu-ray popular before Betamax happens all over again!" They also gave IBM a cool few hundred million to build them a chip architecture that was supposed to trump everything in gaming, they seem to have forgot that games don't require obscene amounts of CPU power, they require obscene amounts of GPU power. And it 'still hasn't reached its full potential' in the same vein that the PS2, N64, and NES hasn't reached their full potential, there is always another trick you can do.

I'm not saying your PS3 is useless, but there are certain things consoles are good at (one-screen-multi-person games, racers, fighting games) and things that PCs are ridiculously better at (FPSs, RTSs, anything that requires more than 12 buttons, anything that requires quick and precise aiming/movement, everything I didn't mention in the console section).

As for the topic at hand, this is still being funded by Activision, which hasn't exactly been earning much of my goodwill recently (which, unfortunately, they are publishing Blur, which I want so so much), so I'm not really interested at all.

http://nmaps.net/user/z3phyr · Postby **Zephyr** » 2010.05.24 (08:32)

Looking at the trailer, this new game seems to have dismemberment.
I dunno, I liked MW2 but haven't played WAW, should I preorder?
If it's on steam I probably will, my computer can definitely handle it.

Postby **kai** » 2010.05.24 (20:05)

smartalco wrote: I'm not saying your PS3 is useless, but there are certain things consoles are good at (one-screen-multi-person games, racers, fighting games) and things that PCs are ridiculously better at (FPSs, RTSs, anything that requires more than 12 buttons, anything that requires quick and precise aiming/movement, everything I didn't mention in the console section).

...unless you have a 360 controller for your pc, then its all good in the hood homie XD. and twistkill go to http://www.ibuypower.com and check out all the cool deals. i got my PC for 1300 USD but they got some pretty decent rigs for as low as 500 - 800 USD ... best of all you can choose what you want to be installed (hardware wise), what kind of accessories (mouse, keyboard, screens) and anything/everything else giving you even more control over the final price.

EDIT (BACK ON TOPIC): http://ve3d.ign.com/images/65061/PC/Cal ... ion-Page-1 ... it all makes sense now. this is why MW2 sucked so much to me and so many others, and why black ops is prolly gonna suck even more. Activision is the devil.

http://nmaps.net/user/chase16/ · Postby **Chase** » 2010.05.25 (15:14)

Black Ops isn't made by IW, Treyarch confirmed it will have Dedicated Servers.

Happy yet?

Postby **kai** » 2010.05.26 (05:07)

Yeah I know, and I kind of take back my opinion on IW and move it to Activision (due to the cockery i linked above)... which owns Treyarch. But then they learned from MW2's mistakes (no dedicated servers) so that tie's em one for one on the score board.

So no Bob, cant say im happy yet :P

..

Seriously tho, thats sick news XD. Hopefully they beta it too.

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.09.09 (19:56)

Sorry, I know this is a dead topic but what the thread is talking about is not dead (or should I say UNdead?), but I didn't think I should make another thread so here we are. It would seem that zombies has been confirmed for Black Ops, check this touhttp://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/ ... -treyarch/. There are also things like Wager Match and player/gun customization. Its awesome, I pre-ordered the Hardened Edition.
Multiplayer Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_fsM6LBi54
Prestige Edition Trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MjcEeTm ... re=channel
Wager Match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_8mPol ... re=related

http://nmaps.net/user/heartattack · Postby **Heartattack** » 2010.09.09 (21:09)

Well I was a huge fan of MWII, so this is looking pretty freaking awesome to me. Multiplayer looks as intense as it's ever been. Wager Match looks like it'll be most of what I play, I especially loved the mode with a pistol and one bullet. And the car, well I guess that's a little more motivation to pre-order. I really think this game is going to be better than anything COD has done before. I love that they're bring back zombies, I missed them in MWII. This is the first game in a while that I'm actually excited for :D

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.09.10 (00:17)

Oh shit son! Gameplay, bitches!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VuOJvNJmqc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1pkxOxn ... re=related
This was the beta so they`ll fix things like the RC-XD sinking into the ground.

http://nmaps.net/user/heartattack · Postby **Heartattack** » 2010.09.10 (01:03)

The more I see the more I'm lovin' it.

http://nmaps.net/user/maxson924 · Postby **Rose** » 2010.09.10 (16:25)

Slayr wrote:player/gun customization.

This sounds awesome.

http://nmaps.net/user/slayr · Postby **Slayr** » 2010.09.10 (19:56)

ＭＡＸＸＸＯＮ wrote:
Slayr wrote:player/gun customization.
This sounds awesome.

Then you'll love this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDCJwCKCak

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