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Postby Izzy » 2010.06.19 (20:36)

So beating the drone with all gold on 49-2 is possible.

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Postby vankusss » 2010.06.23 (17:42)

Izzy that's not my doubt, that's pure fact that it doesn't help with the current route.

Also i won't play much anytime soon, so i'll make this more public so it's not forgotten and hopefully executed before 1.5:

My run on 77-0 uses definitely faster route (got like 107.875 with missed (the ending was quite perfect)), if someone want's to throw Pheidi off 0th's table :P

Also, on 46-4, THIS:









I don't know what the demos shows exactly, but i think they are all pretty much showing the 100% possibility of doing it, so if anyone want's to try, it isn't really easy :P
But i think that would be one of the most amazing runs out there if performed by human, i came pretty close.
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Postby vankusss » 2010.06.28 (09:49)

74-1




top-20 easy route is submitted (watch my run)
the demos shows possibly new 0th route, dunno (got like 152.825 with agd-1)
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Postby vankusss » 2010.07.06 (20:38)

166-2 sr

if anyone is really bored :P
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Postby ska » 2010.07.29 (04:04)

vankusss wrote:166-2 sr

if anyone is really bored :P
wow... I was wondering if something like this was possible... I guess it's bad news for clux and whoever else was 0th (I can't see at the moment as the nreality scores are down)
Edit: unfortunately it requires a long burst of perfect or near perfect chimneying...

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Postby Raif » 2010.08.11 (17:50)

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Gonna try mbd this, but I just put it here since i probly won't do this demo for sometime.

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Postby golf » 2010.08.11 (18:20)

Great idea moh, but that does look incredibly difficult to do in real time.
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Postby ska » 2010.08.15 (18:03)

nice, what kind of saving are we looking at, moh?

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Postby 999_Springs » 2010.08.24 (18:42)

Here's something for 16-3.
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Darkshadow suggested it in the post a run thread in July 2009 or something; I discovered it independently of him two weeks later but couldn't really pull it off (my top20 run on that level dates from back then, I need an extra jump to get all the gold and I have to run back underneath the tiles at the end instead). I tried it again recently and it IS definitely faster than xaelar's 380f run, as i've managed 363f with some missed gold. The problem is the one piece of gold highlighted in blue. The current top few runs on the leaderboard get it with a similar route but don't jump up to the middle platform afterwards. I don't know if the route is possible.
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Postby TheRealOne » 2010.08.24 (18:55)

It is impossible to get that gold on the fall. If you'll notice in kryX's run he misses that gold and gets the heightless cj to get all of the gold in the center. I discussed this with Dark when he came up with his alternate route. I don't know if your route would be enough faster so that you could do an extra jump there to get the other gold.
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Postby eru_bahagon » 2010.08.24 (19:06)

It has absolutely nothing to do with innovations, but that 7ms/f means : " 7 milliseconde per frame " ?
Or what does this mean ? (you said "haha")


AND, this innovation is completely different from kryx's run, no ?
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Postby TheRealOne » 2010.08.24 (19:35)

eru_bahagon wrote:It has absolutely nothing to do with innovations, but that 7ms/f means : " 7 milliseconde per frame " ?
Or what does this mean ? (you said "haha")


AND, this innovation is completely different from kryx's run, no ?
Yes, ms/f means milliseconds per frame.

Yes this innovation is different but the gold he is refering too still applies to kryx's run because since the gold is symmetrical and you are trying to do the same motion is a mirror image. There is a trade off being that you can either get the gold marked as blue or the gold opposite of the blue one in the same row since it is four gold across and you can only grab 3 across at the level of snap. Therefore an extra jump is needed to get all of those gold, but is 999's route fast enough so that with the extra jump you will still be faster. I don't think so, but I could be proven wrong.
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Postby eru_bahagon » 2010.08.24 (20:18)

If we look at xaelar's, the red part in the innovation is the same in his run. Then, the blue part changes, but the first jump at the end of the red part is simply longer than xaelar's one. I don't think that the trouble with be to get that "opposite blue gold", but to get the jump long enough (without missing the lowest right gold) to reach the exit door (which is closed at this time).

Simply, in this innov', we use the same way as current 0th to collect the golds.
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Postby ska » 2010.08.28 (05:15)

3-2 highscore... 2 frames shy of xela and definitely faster.

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Postby 999_Springs » 2010.08.29 (19:52)

Whoops completely forgot about this. Here are some sample demos so you can see what I'm talking about:




(Yes I know. I suck at getting all the gold.)

And the best I can do with the extra jump like in my own top20 is 394 frames, but I missed another different gold. Grrr.
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Postby vankusss » 2010.08.29 (21:18)

what about throwing in map data, too? i personally don't want to kill myself, press shift+r and combine your demos with map data. i'm sure you have it right there in front of the demos, dunno why you're submitting only run data
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Postby ska » 2010.08.30 (14:43)

lol
i don't even know what map he's talking about!

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Postby Raif » 2010.08.30 (15:26)

ska wrote:lol
i don't even know what map he's talking about!
I think he's talking about 16-3..

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Postby vankusss » 2010.09.04 (22:32)

just a route suggestion for 66-0 or -2 or something, might be worth something only with mdb
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Postby vankusss » 2010.09.05 (15:29)

so it's 66-2, and i'm not editing so this is noticed actually

this is the current route


this is new ending


the drones shouldn't be problem since you're 20+ frames faster than original route
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Postby Izzy » 2010.09.06 (00:59)

vankusss wrote:so it's 66-2, and i'm not editing so this is noticed actually

this is the current route


this is new ending


the drones shouldn't be problem since you're 20+ frames faster than original route
Done. That double jump is amazingly annoying.
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Postby BluePretzel » 2010.09.09 (09:51)

I was looking at one of koipen's maps, and thought this might be possible. I can get up to the second BB but then I screw up.

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Postby TheRealOne » 2010.09.26 (22:04)

50-1


Just a little something I noticed while discussing with van on IRC. It is actually quite hard so it probably won't be useful, but the trick is after you wj the 5 tile don't hold jump, just do a 1 frame jump and you won't hit the mines before you wj again. Doing these two wjs should be faster than falling and using the LP.
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Postby vankusss » 2010.10.03 (12:24)

TheRealOne wrote:50-1

Just a little something I noticed while discussing with van on IRC. It is actually quite hard so it probably won't be useful, but the trick is after you wj the 5 tile don't hold jump, just do a 1 frame jump and you won't hit the mines before you wj again. Doing these two wjs should be faster than falling and using the LP.
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Postby amomentlikethis » 2010.10.07 (19:15)

So I just took 126-1 highscore *0th using Arctic_Pony's speedrun innovation... and I didn't get all the gold either!
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