The Thread Where You Post Your Cool New Routes

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.01.08 (19:13)

Map: 66-3 again

Old: 215 Frames

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New: 192 Frames

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I didn't test from the bb double so these may be slightly off, but I bet it is still faster to turn and use the left wall to ws.

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.01.08 (21:06)

TheRealOne wrote:I didn't test from the bb double so these may be slightly off, but I bet it is still faster to turn and use the left wall to ws.

I don't think it's usable since you would need to hit the 8-tile in order to be able to slide the left wall, which is too expensive and might cost those 20 saved frames.
However I took the 0th with just cleaning (I didn't use the begin innov since I couldn't do it and was lazy to analyze your demo :P)

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.02.02 (20:49)

Sticky-ed to spur the innovative sense in all of us.

EDIT: 9-0

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EDIT: 97-0, I came up with this idea a while back, but didn't really think anything much of it. Not really sure where the drones will end up, but just posting it to add to the brainstorm of innovation. Van made the demo. Getting all of the gold on the fall should be possible.

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http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.02.08 (18:22)

TheRealOne wrote: 9-0
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nice locked door jump there! not sure if it helps, though, but definitely speeds you up (maybe in the wrong direction)

http://nmaps.net/user/EddyMataGallos · Postby **EddyMataGallos** » 2011.02.08 (22:13)

Level: 97-2

Improvement: An extra gold, or even 2 extra gold, so 2 or even 4 seconds better.

Demo:

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Another Demo (To prove it wasnt luck):

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Yeah, so taking those golds is possible, I supose you already knew it, you can also take the right one (I supose).
I did it realtime and im usually able to do it like 1/15 times more or less.
I left it there...

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.02.08 (23:18)

EddyMataGallos wrote:Level: 97-2

Improvement: An extra gold, or even 2 extra gold, so 2 or even 4 seconds better.

I KNEW IT WAS POSSIBLE! nice
but i think the right one is not possible because the drone isn't at the very left spot at the beginning (it's a little more to right)

http://nmaps.net/user/EddyMataGallos · Postby **EddyMataGallos** » 2011.02.09 (14:05)

vankusss wrote:
EddyMataGallos wrote:Level: 97-2

Improvement: An extra gold, or even 2 extra gold, so 2 or even 4 seconds better.
I KNEW IT WAS POSSIBLE! nice
but i think the right one is not possible because the drone isn't at the very left spot at the beginning (it's a little more to right)

Thanks, and well if you see my demo, you'll see that the drone isnt at the very right spot at the beggining too, because I put it a bit to the left on purpose just to start as on the beggining of the level, however, the right one is much more difficult because you would need to do 2 wjs in order to be enough fast, as there is no floor...

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.02.11 (20:12)

EddyMataGallos wrote:Level: 97-2

Improvement: An extra gold, or even 2 extra gold, so 2 or even 4 seconds better.

Demo:
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Another Demo (To prove it wasnt luck):
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Yeah, so taking those golds is possible, I supose you already knew it, you can also take the right one (I supose).
I did it realtime and im usually able to do it like 1/15 times more or less.
I left it there...

Proof that it is possible on the right side as well.

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The trick to both side is doing a bwj on the 8 tile so that you clip 8 tile on the end of the platform the FG is on. This lets you get as far in to the tunnel as possible before the FG sees you. I actually had a few frames to spare in my run so it is certainly possible real time, but not very easy. Getting the right gold is harder than the left gold just because you have to jump of a sloped surface instead of flat ground, but it is also earlier in the run so if you mess up it isn't a huge deal to redo up to there.

EDIT: New idea. Gather a list of all of the levels that have missed gold that is possible to get. Develop routes for these levels and call it operation AGD.
The list so far:
5-4
15-3
27-0
31-4
38-4
43-0
51-3
58-1
58-3
64-4
83-3
91-4
96-4
97-2 (^^^)

http://nmaps.net/user/EddyMataGallos · Postby **EddyMataGallos** » 2011.02.11 (20:42)

Great, Thanks ;D

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.02.16 (00:15)

Map 51-2

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I am pretty sure this has been suggested before and been found to be slower, but I wasn't sure so I am just posting this here to I remember to test this against the chimney route.

http://nmaps.net/user/EddyMataGallos · Postby **EddyMataGallos** » 2011.02.16 (13:37)

I tested it with a decent run, and got 97.550, which is a second slower than my top-20 score :/

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.02.18 (22:23)

Map: 43-0

I was trying to make a route for AGD and thought of this innovation, but still had to work on the route. It became more complicated than I thought so I didn't finish the route. Just posting this for brainstorm sake.

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This may help anyone who is interested in making a new route. It is kind of confusing but dots of the same color show what is being grabbed at once.

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.02.19 (11:11)

TheRealOne wrote:Map: 43-0

I was trying to make a route for AGD and thought of this innovation, but still had to work on the route. It became more complicated than I thought so I didn't finish the route. Just posting this for brainstorm sake.

That looks really promising, nice find. Now just find someone to find&execute the rest.
Also on 45-4, i've tried doing gold first, might work, too. Eddy is losing only 1 second with the first route that I saw and without Izzy's drone section, so I would say it's faster with some modificiations.

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.02.20 (20:49)

37-4 hs

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at first meant for sr, but it might be included in some cool hs route, so i just put it here for the record

http://nmaps.net/user/ska · Postby **ska** » 2011.02.21 (01:27)

vankusss wrote:37-4 hs
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at first meant for sr, but it might be included in some cool hs route, so i just put it here for the record

nice, raif or TRO, do you think we can have this bad boy MBD'd?

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.02.21 (23:18)

I tried and failed.

Doing a double bbbwj.

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Using only the first bounceblock to jump off of.

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I think you may have to jump off only the second one and at a good angle to actually make this route happen properly.

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.04.11 (18:48)

Map: 61-2

I think this would be faster for the middle section than jump back across to get the bottom two in one fall.

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Ill try for a few more minutes to get the AGD, but I have class soon, so I figure I would just post it.

http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.04.11 (19:26)

TheRealOne wrote:Map: 61-2

I think this would be faster for the middle section than jump back across to get the bottom two in one fall.
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Ill try for a few more minutes to get the AGD, but I have class soon, so I figure I would just post it.

Nice, but someone should test it first.
Also, this for the beginning:

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http://nmaps.net/user/ska · Postby **ska** » 2011.04.12 (02:36)

hehe, neither of you have found my big innovation for that level yet.

Postby **glib_jase** » 2011.04.12 (18:26)

vankusss wrote:
TheRealOne wrote:Map: 61-2

I think this would be faster for the middle section than jump back across to get the bottom two in one fall.
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Ill try for a few more minutes to get the AGD, but I have class soon, so I figure I would just post it.
Nice, but someone should test it first.
Also, this for the beginning:
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How about something like this for the middle section?

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or maybe even this?

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http://nmaps.net/user/vankusss · Postby **vankusss** » 2011.04.12 (20:56)

glib_jase wrote: How about something like this for the middle section?

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or maybe even this?

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That first thing is awesome and definitely faster, I'm convinced the 2nd one isn't possible agd.
Don't know who wants to go my new begin + glib mid + my end, that's really really hard altogether.

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.04.13 (00:08)

vankusss wrote:
glib_jase wrote: How about something like this for the middle section?

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or maybe even this?

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That first thing is awesome and definitely faster, I'm convinced the 2nd one isn't possible agd.
Don't know who wants to go my new begin + glib mid + my end, that's really really hard altogether.

Yup thats the route. Do it glib, great find.

EDIT: Also we should take a look at 61-4 there HAS to be a new route for that map. I wouldn't be surprised if there was 10 seconds left for MDB(corner jump madness). Probably a decent amount left for real time.

This CJ is pretty easy and would save a bit. But I have a feeling there is a better route over all, though you are constrained by the back and forth key system.

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http://nmaps.net/user/golfkid · Postby **golf** » 2011.04.13 (00:54)

If you go for a corner jump madness mdb, finish 95-2 first please. :)

http://nmaps.net/user/ska · Postby **ska** » 2011.04.13 (01:16)

actually.. it's not quite what I had in mind...

this is more like what i had..

http://nmaps.net/user/therealone · Postby **TheRealOne** » 2011.04.13 (01:40)

ska wrote:actually.. it's not quite what I had in mind...

this is more like what i had..

That is almost the exact route that I posted...? Jumping from the floor before the 8 tile is certainly faster as glib demonstrated.

TheRealOne wrote:Map: 61-2

I think this would be faster for the middle section than jump back across to get the bottom two in one fall.
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Ill try for a few more minutes to get the AGD, but I have class soon, so I figure I would just post it.

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