That first one is really good and promising. The second one though, is slower, I already playtested all possibilities (in that particular section) when taking the 0th the first time (doing a cj is not faster either).TheRealOne wrote:50-1
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Hi, im Eddy, a Spanish highscorer and current Grandmaster of N. I've been playing N since 2006, I beat it on the 8th September 2008, and NReality later too. Started intermittently highscoring Metanet in 2010, although serious highscoring started in late 2011.
Current Stats
• Completed N on 8th Sept. 2008
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• 0th Place on Metanet 0th Rankings with 443 0ths.
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• 8th ever Grandmaster
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• 10th highscorer to reach 70k Level Score
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• First 0th: 31-3 on 04/Oct/10
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• Reached 400 Metanet 0ths on 04/Sept/14
• Reached highest amount of 0ths on Jan/2013
• Became the Grandmaster on 12/Apr/2012
• Reached 70k Level Score on 25/Dec/11
• Reached 71k Level Score on 13/Jan/11
• Reached 71.5k Level Score on 01/Aug/12
• Reached 72k Level Score on 04/Jul/14
• Completed N 1.4 on 08/Sept/08
• Completed NReality on 24/Dec/10
• Reached 100 NReality 0ths on Oct/2011
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Yeah I figured as much about the second one. I didn't spend much time getting a perfect normal route run to test against. As for the first innovation unfortunately it does seem to be position dependent. If the ninja has the wrong footing you won't be able to get a clean jump out of the gap off the 5 tile so it is pretty difficult. (At least it was for me, by the time I finish this post you or macro will have already pulled it off.) Luckily it is in the beginning of the run.EddyMataGallos wrote: That first one is really good and promising. The second one though, is slower, I already playtested all possibilities (in that particular section) when taking the 0th the first time (doing a cj is not faster either).
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Regarding the first innovation: I'd thought of this idea for years, including the other day when watching the top runs. I assumed—like TRO has already been stated in this thread—that this hasn't been used yet because of its sheer difficulty, which is based on positional luck and timing. All I can say is 'good luck' to anyone who tries to implement it in a 0th attempt.
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126 frames:
121 frames:
Could be even faster with a bbcj.
121 frames:
Could be even faster with a bbcj.
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macrohenry wrote:...
Could be even faster with a bbcj.
9 Frames.
I should say that is FBFed this so the WJs are perfect; however, I did not have to do any tricky left and right directional stuff to get the angle for the BBCK. After the second WJ I hold right the rest of the demo.
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<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
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<@gloomp> Holy sweet, balls run.
<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
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Alright one more idea for 50-1... Has this WJ been explored before?
Normal (no WJ): 99f
Innovation (w/ WJ): 87f
Normal (no WJ): 99f
Innovation (w/ WJ): 87f
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<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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<@gloomp> Holy sweet, balls run.
<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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I thought of this, but didn't use it since I personally find it hard to get the right timing for the jump.TheRealOne wrote:Alright one more idea for 50-1... Has this WJ been explored before?
Normal (no WJ): 99f
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woah, nice. that's quite a boost.TheRealOne wrote:Alright one more idea for 50-1... Has this WJ been explored before?
Normal (no WJ): 99f
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Yeah I noticed MiBeM uses this in his speedrun the other day (which is actually super clean, but he doesn't beat the drone at the start).ska wrote:woah, nice. that's quite a boost.TheRealOne wrote:Alright one more idea for 50-1... Has this WJ been explored before?
Normal (no WJ): 99f
Innovation (w/ WJ): 87f
I've submitted a run using most of the innovs here, but I screwed up pretty much everywhere, that start is annoyingly difficult.
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Nice run, though. It may be pretty far off the pace, but if it wasn't for the mistake when leaving the complex you were right on pace with Eddy. His run is just so clean all around even with the innovations it is going to be tough to beat. But good on you for executing all of them in a good run.alsojp27ace wrote: Yeah I noticed MiBeM uses this in his speedrun the other day (which is actually super clean, but he doesn't beat the drone at the start).
I've submitted a run using most of the innovs here, but I screwed up pretty much everywhere, that start is annoyingly difficult.
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<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
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I don't think it's possible to land on the platform and continue without a walljump, but maybe...?
I don't think it's possible to land on the platform and continue without a walljump, but maybe...?
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Yeah I don't think that's possible without hitting the drone, but you could always try this (rough mbd, 5 frames faster than Kool):macrohenry wrote:94-0
I don't think it's possible to land on the platform and continue without a walljump, but maybe...?
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Well that is certainly clever. Nice find. With a better CK off the thwump that would be a lot faster.alsojp27ace wrote:Yeah I don't think that's possible without hitting the drone, but you could always try this (rough mbd, 5 frames faster than Kool):macrohenry wrote:94-0
I don't think it's possible to land on the platform and continue without a walljump, but maybe...?
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<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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Not too fast, though...TheRealOne wrote:With a better CK off the thwump that would be a lot faster.
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Well that is interesting. I am surprised you were able to die on the wall form that far out. It seems like it takes a lot more force to die by wall than floor or ceiling._danielr_ wrote:Not too fast, though...TheRealOne wrote:With a better CK off the thwump that would be a lot faster.
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<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
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<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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Woah, awesome!alsojp27ace wrote:Yeah I don't think that's possible without hitting the drone, but you could always try this (rough mbd, 5 frames faster than Kool):macrohenry wrote:94-0
I don't think it's possible to land on the platform and continue without a walljump, but maybe...?
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lol... also, rearding TRO's comment, do you think you could whip up a velocity test to give credence to your claim about wall/ceiling terminal—in the literal sense—velocity?_danielr_ wrote:Not too fast, though...TheRealOne wrote:With a better CK off the thwump that would be a lot faster.
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I'm not sure the ck makes much difference to the speed of the run, since for the thwump to not kill you, you have to be at least a certain height off the floor, so you have to wait to fall into the exit either way.TheRealOne wrote:Well that is certainly clever. Nice find. With a better CK off the thwump that would be a lot faster.alsojp27ace wrote:Yeah I don't think that's possible without hitting the drone, but you could always try this (rough mbd, 5 frames faster than Kool):macrohenry wrote:94-0
I don't think it's possible to land on the platform and continue without a walljump, but maybe...?
Although I didn't really test this so it might be possible to hit the thwump from a lower height.
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If you just watch Kool's run against mine in demo mode, we're practically identical at the moment of the thwump ck. But, because of the different jumps, Kool hits the exit 3 frames faster than me. In a frame war map like this, that's an incredible difference.
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Some thoughts on the ending. All of them are probably too hard/high risk since it is the ending, but I'll throw them out there anyway just to show that is possible and get others thinking.
Standard Ending: 199f
Hitting the Corner (no WJ): 189f
CK with the WJ: 175f
Some thoughts on the ending. All of them are probably too hard/high risk since it is the ending, but I'll throw them out there anyway just to show that is possible and get others thinking.
Standard Ending: 199f
Hitting the Corner (no WJ): 189f
CK with the WJ: 175f
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<@gloomp> Holy sweet, balls run.
<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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64-1 sr.
550 f is definitely possible :)
Edit: yep
550 f is definitely possible :)
Edit: yep
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wrong thread? (can't blame you with all these weird thread titles knocking about...)_danielr_ wrote:64-1 sr.
550 f is definitely possible :)
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It was either here (cos it was a new route), Post A Run or Metanet/Nreality Speedun 0ths, but fair point! :)ska wrote:wrong thread? (can't blame you with all these weird thread titles knocking about...)
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Okay... I knew I should have actually watched the run first! :P
New rule: If a non-Metanet 0th run is taken with an innovation, (and by that, I mean everything excluding the levels in 00-99 on highscore mode), the poster has the option to either post the innovation here, or in the speedrun/NReality thread; whatever the poster feels is more relevant. TRO: you cool with this?
New rule: If a non-Metanet 0th run is taken with an innovation, (and by that, I mean everything excluding the levels in 00-99 on highscore mode), the poster has the option to either post the innovation here, or in the speedrun/NReality thread; whatever the poster feels is more relevant. TRO: you cool with this?
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ska wrote:Okay... I knew I should have actually watched the run first! :P
New rule: If a non-Metanet 0th run is taken with an innovation, (and by that, I mean everything excluding the levels in 00-99 on highscore mode), the poster has the option to either post the innovation here, or in the speedrun/NReality thread; whatever the poster feels is more relevant. TRO: you cool with this?
I would prefer 0th posts to go in the applicable thread of the 3 we already have, but we don't have enough traffic on this forum for it really to be a problem. So whatever works.
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<@gloomp> Holy sweet, balls run.
<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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<@gloomp> Holy sweet, balls run.
<@Izzy> Sweet, balls run holy.
<@gloomp> Run sweet, balls holy.
<@Izzy> Sweet run, ballsy hole.
<@gloomp> All's sweet, holeb run.
<@Izzy> Ballsy nun, sweet mole.
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